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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by qmiro
The Amazon Fire does not have Android apps right?
Almost all of the work just fine.

I went through the hassle of sideloading some stuff only to find out I really just browse read and use the tablet for lite apps anyway.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396276,00.asp

The Kindle environment has tons of free apps that are quite nice.

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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by qmiro
My 7 in acer tablet died on me once again. First time was still under warranty so shipped it back to acer and they fixed it free. Now it is out of warranty. Anyone have any suggestions for a good reasonably priced tablet? I'm in NYC so need US one. Wifi not necessarily 3 or 4 g.
Did you purchase it with a credit card that automatically extends the warranty? Many will double the warranty (up to a year, max). Most of my experience is with Amex, which has a tendency to just credit you the purchase price if it's not worth repairing.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by qmiro
My 7 in acer tablet died on me once again. First time was still under warranty so shipped it back to acer and they fixed it free. Now it is out of warranty. Anyone have any suggestions for a good reasonably priced tablet? I'm in NYC so need US one. Wifi not necessarily 3 or 4 g.
How soon do you need it? As others have said, the new Nexus 7 is coming out soon... ditto the Galaxy Tab 3, and both look worth waiting for to compare.

If not, what's your budget, and is the 7" size a strict requirement? As I said above, if fI had to buy a new tablet right now at that size range, I'd be looking at the 8" Galaxy Note 8 (although it's still only available in white... feh), which has a great set of features and is a VERY fast and capable tablet.

It's also more than twice the price of the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (although it's more than twice as fast, higher resolution, and has twice the RAM) and almost twice the price of the Nexus 7 (which is a little slower per core but has the same number of cores, has the same resolution, and has half the RAM -- and no SD card slot.)

If you need something inexpensive right now, the Nexus 7 is the obvious choice unless you really, really need the SD card slot; there's nothing else quite that cheap that's anywhere as good.

Originally Posted by vinvam
If price isn't a huge factor, I've heard good things about the new Sony tablet: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-SG...peria+tablet+z
Looks nice for a 10" model, although the 9.7"/10" and the 7"-8" models are not really interchangeable in use.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 1:53 pm
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USB adaptors for the Nexus 7 are so cheap that I don't see why lack of an SD card slot should put anyone off.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 1:55 pm
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USB adaptors for the Nexus 7 are so cheap that I don't see why lack of an SD card slot should put anyone off.
Because not everyone wants a little dangly thing hanging off their tablet all day.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 2:44 pm
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I only put the little dangly thingy in when I need to, which isn't that often. Usually to run presentation videos. YMMV
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by mandolino
USB adaptors for the Nexus 7 are so cheap that I don't see why lack of an SD card slot should put anyone off.
It puts me off. I don't like to compromise, so I pick a device that offers what I actually need.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by mandolino
I only put the little dangly thingy in when I need to, which isn't that often. Usually to run presentation videos. YMMV
Then your use case is very different from how I use SD cards in my tablet and phone; I've got a 32 GB card in each, and it's full (as is the memory in my tablet, which is only 8gb; in the phone -- 16gb -- it's about half full.)

If manufacturers didn't overcharge for flash, having the SD card would still be more convenient (and safer, since the card contents will survive many things that can lead to the phone dying, although by no means all of them) -- but the OTG cable adapter would certainly help with some of the convenience issues.

It really does nothing for the fact that manufacturers overcharge like crazy for a bigger internal storage, unless you're willing to let it hang there all day.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 4:17 am
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It puts me off. I don't like to compromise, so I pick a device that offers what I actually need.
Fair enough, then you'll pay a lot more extra than the $3 for a USB adaptor. The Nexus 7 is really a "play and display" device, rather than a "create and store" device. (although you can do that)
Actually that's probably true of most small tablets. It probably costs them (and ultimately, you) more than it's worth to put in full-size USB and card ports.

I don't let my adaptor "hang there all day", any more than I would leave a USB stick in all day, I just keep it in my pocket or bag attached to the USB stick. In terms of inconvenience, it's right up there with taking my reading glasses off my nose.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by mandolino
Fair enough, then you'll pay a lot more extra than the $3 for a USB adaptor. The Nexus 7 is really a "play and display" device, rather than a "create and store" device. (although you can do that)
Actually that's probably true of most small tablets. It probably costs them (and ultimately, you) more than it's worth to put in full-size USB and card ports.
More local memory, whether on a card or built in, is very useful for a media consumption device (your "play and display") when you're away from the internet (like on a lot of planes), or when you're on a capped data plan away from home, or when the wifi is flakey (as at my gym), slow (lots of places), or where streaming sources are blocked for being overseas.

Full-size card ports aren't on any tablet except some of the biggest converged ones like the surface, and the cash cost if putting a micro-SD card slot in is negligible (if sub-$40 prepaid dumbphones can do it, any tablet can.) The space used and design tradeoffs of a door or a visible prt are also minor.

Google has made a conscious choice to make their devices cloud-centric, just as Apple made a conscious choice -- whether it was mainly a design one or to make a profit on overpricing flash upgrades, or if those were both equal are unknown outside of Apple.

Most (although not all), non-Nexus, non-Apple tablets have an micro-SD card slot.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 5:09 am
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Fair enough, get one with an SD card slot then.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by mandolino
Fair enough, get one with an SD card slot then.
I have.

Uncertain when/if I'll upgrade, but the next Nexus 7 will probably not be on the short list. For many people, it won't matter (although paying for the 32gb model may be worth it, overpriced though $50 for 16gb may be), but it's worth keeping in mind for people who plan to use it away from reliable or home-country wifi.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 7:48 am
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The beautiful thing about Android is the variety of available devices. Want or need an SD card? Get a device with one. Don't care? Get one without it.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 10:39 am
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Want an SD card once in a while but not all that often - get an adaptor.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 10:54 am
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will follow Nexus 7

I heard a rumour about a 64GB Nexus 7 being available around Christmas.
I have the 32GB 3G. Very happy with it.

+1 ^ for all nkedel's comments about the cloud not always being that convenient or cost-effective. 64GB is probably not enough to make me trade up from the 32GB because I do have and use the OTG/USB stick solution so that I don't run out of stuff to watch on long trips when I've filled up the 32GB.

I'll probably jump for the 128GB or bigger 3G/4G when available, though. For price/performance at present I plan to stick with the Nexus 7 range unless Google lets anyone else make it for them that does a worse job than whoever made the current ones.
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