The thread is about tablets. Please try to stay on topic, or bother some other thread.

And, there you go again.

And, again. Snarky comments which have nothing to do with the topic are not helpful to the OP. Do you have anything relevant & on-topic to add?

I'd say that the OP has gotten some helpful advice by now and probably should get out into the stores to play with the devices to get a "feel" for which one best suits their purpose.

In the US, the XPS 10 has been near-constantly on sale on the Dell Outlet, so those who don't mind refurbs might want to check there.

One of my coworkers got a Latitude 10 (full Win8, not RT) and loves it, and while it's a bit pokey compared to the Surface Pro (Atom vs. i5) it is in most other ways a much nicer experience having played with both.

I'm not sure it matters as much as it used to; Samsung has gotten much better about updates, and frankly, so far there is not much that has changed since ICS that most folks would care about except Google Now (and many of us find that annoying and creepy, rather than helpful.)

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Personally, if I wanted to buy a tablet right now but didn't HAVE to do so immediately I'd be waiting to see what the pricing was on the GT 3 7.0 and what the next version of the Nexus 7 were like.

If I had to buy a tablet right now, I'd bite the bullet and buy a Note 8; it offers more than I need at a higher price than I want to pay, but the screen and CPU on the GT2 7.0 are limiting, as is the lack of an SD card slot on the Nexus 7.

Lenovo 27" Horizon - perfect for your meal tray in coach.

Or the Sony Vaio Tap 20" if you want something a bit more compact.

This is a parody, right? Your 20" thread (which you bumped) pointed out that that one is going to be too wide for many coach seats. The 27" one won't be usable in landscape in most domestic US first seats. In portrait, either one will be so tall that if the seat in front reclines at all, it will be tilted forward towards you unless the base is in your lap.

Add in the disappointing resolution on the tap, and a battery life that will barely make it from NYC to Chicago...

You're an angry man. Or woman, I didn't bother looking, sorry.

There's nothing wrong with using 20" in F. I've since tried it if you care to read my thread correctly, to which by the way, I added a link to an article showing how big (small) the Tap 20 is in the London Underground.

NYC to Chicago in F? I try to fly with a carrier that provides power, but generally tend to fly further afar at any one time.

What exactly is your problem with any of this?

You confuse critical with angry. When you're OMNI qualified, I can refer you to some actual examples of "angry" on OMNI/PR.

As for man, or woman, or AI, I refer you to the following cartoon:


20", probably not (although a few of the tighter-pitched domestic F might be a challenge, due to the recline of the seat in front.)

27", you're pushing both width, and on regular recliner seats, height as well. Or you're going to be very hunched over... (and quite possibly running out of pitch, in some of the less generous domestic seats.)

Tried it in Y, or J/F?

Saw it. The humor of the latter seems to have gone right over your head.

The 27" model (I misread, and thought it was the 20" I was looking at) quotes a battery life of two hours. The 20" quotes a battery life, only marginally better, of 2:45. Very limited by laptop standards, and utterly pathetic by tablet standards.

The example of NYC to Chicago was just an example of a roughly-two-hour flight.

As for power, it's nice if you can get it. Quite a few airlines don't provide it at all in Y (not that either of those are likely to fit any better than a full-size 14" or 15" laptop) or in very limited numbers of seats (as on AA.) Even where you're supposed to have it, my experience has been that while it usually works as advertised it's hardly 100% reliable (ignoring things like AA taking it down on entire aircraft types, which is unusual.)

Two threads on the same thing months ago, bumped the antique thread, and pushing a niche use case that very few others would be interested in.

That's a lot of work for a leg pull, and at the same time, I can't imagine what your interest is in boosting such an odd niche product.

So basically by discussing this, and a case that might be used to carry it (what niche case are you referring to? A Pelican? Rimowa? The Sony Tap 20 Case they sell? - none of these are exactly niche cases any more than an iPad cover is 'niche') somehow this gets you angry or paranoid when in fact what I am discussing is something you wouldn't understand - there's a bunch of people in the creative arts (like me, for example) who fly and need the largest screen they can fly with. Read my posts carefully about the history of it all, with the 21" and 27" iMacs people used to - and still do - lug around.

The article linked was useful and not humor at all. There are plenty of people I know using 20" laptops in cafes going back 5+ years now. I've seen them.

If you'd care to contribute to the thread without attacking people based on your paranoid views of people 'pushing' 'odd niche product[s]' then go ahead, but please take your medicine first.

By the way, did you hear about the iPad? It was a niche product too at one time, probably according to you. Do I have your permission to post something about that one?

Or they're just Apple fanbois.

Some interesting recommendations. For what you actually describe you might want to have a look at the 8.9 inch Kindle Fire HD. There's the wifi version for ~$270 and the LTE connected version for ~$400 (plus carrier data charges). I don't own one, but I've used one a wee bit over the last few months and it's nice. Nothing spectacular except that it just works.

HTC, MSI, and Sony all do nice tablets that would probably fit the bill, although the HTC crews through battery. Much as I hate to say it, the MS Surface Pro would also fit the bill for what you describe.

Those reasons would primarily be that marketing works, and Apple certainly does have a spectacularly good marketing dept.

apple could make a tablet that runs OSX (id buy one, OP could use one) but they wont

im not a fan of apple gadgets nor the gadgets that copied them

actually, they did. both ios and mac os x are based on os x.

you're thinking of a tablet running mac os x, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. mac os x is not a touch-based operating system. it would be a dismal failure. there have been windows tablets for the past decade. how many of those do you see in use?

what apple did was take their desktop os (mac os x) and redesign it for touch (ios). that's why it's as successful as it is.

they're not gadgets.

all ios does is sell "apps" just like subsequent android/etc

I've switched over to a Microsoft Surface RT from an iPad + Sony laptop.

For tablet duties like apps and web browsing I still think the iPad was a bit better/smoother, but the Surface does enough "real computer" duties that it lets me leave the laptop at home when I travel. I used to have to lug the laptop for presentations, editing powerpoint/word/excel documents and so forth, and I'd use the iPad for "fun". The Surface is a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none, but it's awesome for travelling. The touch keyboard is pretty cool.

On my last trip I ran out of space on my digital camera, but I could plug the camera into the USB port on my Surface, upload the files to Flickr, and clear off the camera to make more space. And after checking in with the airline, I could plug it into the printer at the hotel and print off my boarding pass. Try that with an iPad or Galaxy tablet!

Typical Microsoft though, it does feel a bit like a beta product. I think when they get this thing right it's going to really catch on.

RT pro only runs full operating system in desktop mode correct?

im wondering if vaio and lenovo mentioned in Ory's thread run full operating system as tablet
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...e-desktop.html