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bowdenj Oct 16, 2011 11:41 am

Its been a few months since I switched from:

Verizon Blackberry 8830 World Edition
to
Verizon Motorola Droid Pro (with a keyboard).

1. Battery - scary! - My dad actually got me this gift and it is the best gift he's ever given to me due to the Android battery:

http://www.amazon.com/MiLi-Crystal-E...dp/B003TO56PI/

Its rescued me countless times (especially while in NYC when using subways and well, I'm not sure why - but maybe network utilization just seems to consume the battery charge).

2. Keyboard: I've adjusted. Initially I tended to accidently hit the home button while typing on the Android keyboard but I've adjusted and now don't make that mistake as often.

3. Screen: Its just great - I can zoom into the browser if I need to look at things closely. So clear. Just an amazing experience compared to the Blackberry.

4. Apps: Gasbuddy, Kayak, Twitter, Facebook, AK Notepad (on the Blackberry it had a memo pad application - the Android apparently doesn't have one by default), Scanner, Fandango, Yelp, iheartradio, Tango

5. Wifi hotspot: After having tethering on the Blackberry to the capability for creating a wifi hotspot is just so cool. Would never go back.

6. Never had a camera/camcorder on my cellphones - The Droid Pro has a camera and now I'm taking more photos. The photos come out remarkably clear.

Someone above mentioned freezing, etc. - I only experience that in markets where the Verizon network seems overwhelmed (think NYC). It does drive me a bit nuts and I just have to be patient and wait for the phone to catch up (??).

I have an iPad and its great but my requirement for a new cellphone: real keyboard. That's why I didn't go with the iPhone.

CR1970 Oct 16, 2011 12:29 pm

Update
 

Originally Posted by bpo26c (Post 17282614)
I posted a similar threat about two months ago. Just made the switch this week from the Blackberry to the Android (Samsung Galaxy S2).

Quick observations: Its amazing in all aspects (screen, browsing, speed, reception, etc) and is slightly overwhelming. It will take awhile to learn all of the features.

The only downside thus far has been the battery life. With the BlackBerry, I could charge every 2 to 3 days. This phone needs to be charged daily; maybe there are settings that I can adjust.

I totally agree about the BB battery! I received my new iPhone Friday afternoon and within a few hours after being fully charged, I was down to about 50%.

Here are a few of my thoughts:

1. SO easy to setup. Much easier than I expected. I was up and running in about 20 min. iCloud is very cool, within a few minutes of activating my phone all of my contacts were already synced.

The most time consuming part was hard-syncing all of my music, podcasts and videos. I purchased the 64 gb version with the purpose of having my entire iTunes library with me.

2. Coming from a BB, it is amazing how much more I can do. Incredible phone. Very nice and durable build. Shockingly fast. Apps open almost instantly. Browsing is so much easier.

3. I like the form factor, and since I never had one before, I like that they didn't change anything. It was easy to find accessories since it is the same size as the previous version. Anywhere I went I was able to find something. I also purchase a 1700 mAh boost case to help with the short battery life when I need it. I found numerous cases and screen protectors anywhere I went, including Target, Best Buy, Staples, etc. Conversely, when I purchased my iPad 2, because of the form factor change, it took a month before I was able to find accessories.

4. The battery SUCKS. I started my second day of playing with it around 8 am on Saturday, browsing websites, playing with apps, etc. Not constant use, just 10-15 minutes at a time while hanging out with family. By noon it was down to well below 50%. I did have WIFI on and did most of my browsing and app downloads while on the home network.

I also messed around with my brother's Samsung Galaxy S. While it's not the most current version, the iPhone is so much faster. But, after messing around with both the iPhone and an Android phone I quickly realized that neither of them hold a candle to BB messaging and e-mail.

What I miss most about me BB. (Maybe I just haven't figured out all the shortcuts and capabilities)

1. I loved the way BB could have separate icons for each of my e-mail accounts as well as a catch all icon for all of them, whether it be an AOL account, gmail account or a POP account. That way when a new message came through, I immediately knew which account it was coming from.

2. I LOVED the new message notification LED. The Samsung had something similar, but I didn't see one on the iPhone.

3. I also miss the shortcuts. Ex. "T" for top of my messages, "B" for bottom, etc.

4. Just the way that BB handles messages seem like it wasn't an afterthought. Both IOS and Android make it seem like it was a feature that was added, whereas the BB seems like it was designed specifically to be the ultimate messaging device AND a phone.

When a message came through, it was just there on my BB. I looked down at the phone, and if there was a new message indicator, my new messages where already there. With my iPhone I see new messages when I tap the mail icon. There may be a setting to more mimic the way BB handles e-mail but I haven't found it yet.

I also don't like that Apple limits how many e-mail messages can be displayed, or that it searches for mail every time you hit the icon and enter the screen for mail. Right now I have 1,200 e-mails and messages on my BB.

Again, maybe there are settings I haven't figured out yet, and maybe I will get used to it and be more forgiving because the extra features.

I will give it a couple months, But if I really don't make much progress, I am really thinking that I may re-activate my old BB and use it strictly for messaging. If Verizon would allow me to activate my BB to use just for messaging and not have actual phone service, I may do that and carry both.

Overall I really like the iPhone but as much I as I would have loved to have a best of all worlds phone. I just don't think that it will ever exist unless it comes from RIM. They definitely have the goods as far as e-mail and messaging, and in my opinion nothing even comes close. If RIM's new generation phone offers the ability to run Android apps, WIFI hotspot and an 8mp FOCUSING camera, that may be enough to bring me back. I like having my entire iTunes library with me on my iPhone, but I would gladly trade that for the BB indicator light, messaging and keyboard.

Henry82 Oct 17, 2011 6:10 am


Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17283188)
Overall I really like the iPhone but as much I as I would have loved to have a best of all worlds phone. I just don't think that it will ever exist unless it comes from RIM. They definitely have the goods as far as e-mail and messaging, and in my opinion nothing even comes close. If RIM's new generation phone offers the ability to run Android apps, WIFI hotspot and an 8mp FOCUSING camera, that may be enough to bring me back. I like having my entire iTunes library with me on my iPhone, but I would gladly trade that for the BB indicator light, messaging and keyboard.

For months, I have had the same dilemma you were in... except 2X as both my wife and I have been limping along with our BB Tours, are out-of-contract, and have upgrade credits waiting to be used. Though neither of us have ever owned an Android phone, we do have one iPhone 3GS and two iPads between us. My opinion is that for a mobile consumption device, iOS with its unmatched app development and mature ecosystem is the one to beat... and will remain so until Android catches up (which IMHO is just a matter of time). But when it comes to a PHONE, which is at the end of the day a communications device, RIM has the priorities in the right order.

I agree with all the pros you've listed for BB. My Tour has traveled throughout Asia (from the most developed of cities to the backward, borderline 3rd world areas) and it has been there for me numerous times: whether it's mapping directions, BBM'ing a colleague overseas, or responding to an email in simplified Chinese, it always got the job done.

However, I wouldn't count the BB 9930's non-focusing camera as a con. I consider myself a "prosumer" when it comes to photography and know what I'm looking for when it comes to camera specs. The EDoF fixed focus system isn't "worse" than one with AF, each is better in different situations. You'll need AF to focus on objects close-up, but this advantage is moot beyond arm's length and EDoF will shine with landscape shots. There's the obvious problem of focusing on the wrong object, which becomes more pronounced as distance increases... and an out-of-focus shot is not always obvious on the phone's small screen. EDoF cameras don't have AF delay and shot-to-shot are faster. Note that turning AF off will not get EDoF results. A great writeup can be found here: LINK.

I imagine RIM took many factors into account, but weighed most heavily what the end-user would find most useful. The pictures I most often take with my phone's camera are for the purpose of "documentation and sharing". If my goal is shot quality, I'd be using my point & shoot or DSLR. I imagine the majority of end-users, and to a greater extent RIM's target audience, would not be far off.

CR1970 Oct 17, 2011 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by Henry82 (Post 17286627)
However, I wouldn't count the BB 9930's non-focusing camera as a con. I consider myself a "prosumer" when it comes to photography and know what I'm looking for when it comes to camera specs. The EDoF fixed focus system isn't "worse" than one with AF, each is better in different situations. You'll need AF to focus on objects close-up, but this advantage is moot beyond arm's length and EDoF will shine with landscape shots. There's the obvious problem of focusing on the wrong object, which becomes more pronounced as distance increases... and an out-of-focus shot is not always obvious on the phone's small screen. EDoF cameras don't have AF delay and shot-to-shot are faster. Note that turning AF off will not get EDoF results. A great writeup can be found here: LINK.

I imagine RIM took many factors into account, but weighed most heavily what the end-user would find most useful. The pictures I most often take with my phone's camera are for the purpose of "documentation and sharing". If my goal is shot quality, I'd be using my point & shoot or DSLR. I imagine the majority of end-users, and to a greater extent RIM's target audience, would not be far off.

That was an interesting article, thanks for posting. I agree, for most uses, the EDoF camera would have probably been just fine. Unfortunately, most of what I take pictures of with my cell phone are very close up documents and contracts that I either have to e-mail or message immediately back to the office. Some of which may need to be run through OCR software. Some other things are very close shots of parts, and equipment serial numbers. Being somewhat of a photo enthusiast myself I do see the advantages of EDoF, it's just that I have used my phone's pictures mostly for business and carry a small point and shoot for everything else.

I have to say, however, that the camera on the 4S is incredible. I actually took a picture of a small print disclaimer that I couldn't get with my Berry and it was bright and clear as day. I also took some pictures at a Bass Pro Shop without a flash and they were remarkably good. I mention that because I used to have problems getting usable shots in areas with dark rustic colors and dim lighting, even with a flash. I was very surprised.

The camera did just fine in low light. Not quite as good as my DSLR or even my old P&S Fuji S30 or Leica D-Lux 5, but very acceptable.

I am actually considering my phone now for vacations and general photography where I don't need the highest quality. Even pictures that I plan to enlarge (slightly), mount and frame would easily be doable with the 4S.

I am sure my battery will take a hit, but since I have to carry my phone anyway, I figured that I will just carry it in a boost battery case and it will still save me having to carry around a bunch of weighty gadgets.

All of that said, I still miss my BB keyboard and messaging capabilities.


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