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Originally Posted by msnflier
(Post 17242634)
If you're a VzW customer, keep in mind that VzW has a 14-day money back on all of its phones (minus a $35 re-stocking fee),
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
(Post 17241099)
I tend to agree with the above sentiment for you. Since you already have a bunch of Apple gizmos you might as well stick within the same ecosystem.
Blackberry is GREAT with email and keyboard. Otherwise it's pretty much a dog. I did miss my BB keyboard immensely when I switched to Android, but I've gotten quite adept at typing on the screen. Whether you get an Android or an iPhone, you'll get used to it. Some Android phones also come with physical keyboards. If photos are very important to you, I think the iPhone 4's camera is hard to beat...but newer Android models probably give it a run for its money. Go to a store, play with both, and decide. As I said, since you have a lot of Apple stuff already, it seems that an iPhone is probably the better choice for you.
Originally Posted by msnflier
(Post 17242634)
I would encourage you to try a BlackBerry 9930 on VzW. As an earlier poster mentioned, it is far and away the best BB to date. If you owned and loved the original BlackBerry Bold 9000, the 9930 will remind you of best of the 9000 (wider keyboard, bigger screen but it's also touch-sensitive) with the plenty of power (1.2Ghz processor) so it rarely lags. Ultimately, everyone's MMV but my personal view is that the BB's e-mail management, low power consumption, and security features (including BlackBerry protect, which is free and works very well, I found out the hard way) puts it ahead of iPhone and Android. Yes, BB is weaker in other areas, but I think it's the only option of the three that's practical for productivity vs entertainment.
Originally Posted by EasterCat
(Post 17233610)
As someone who also owns a mbp and ipad, the iphone would fit best with your life. Apple is introducing icloud later in October, which will sync all your apple devices. For example, if you take a picture of something on your iphone, it'll sync to any other devices connected to icloud. If you take a picture of yeti, but it manages to stomp your phone 10 minutes later, you'll still have proof in icloud. :D
If you charge your phone at night and have it connected to wifi, the phone'll automatically do ota backups. If you're not the sort of person who remembers to backup regularly, this will be helpful. You can adjust settings on this so it doesn't require a charging phone. Since you have to charge your phone every night anyway, there's no benefit to adjusting this. Either an android or an iphone will be a great choice. I also talked with a few people about their Android phones. A couple people said that they were hacked and lost all of their data, and couldn't figure out how it happened. They are not heavy users or into tinkering with their phones at all. They think they may have downloaded something from the app store. I really warmed up to the large screen once I played with it for a little while, but I was more concerned with the possibility of getting hacked, especially since I will have a lot of business information on the phone. Thanks for all of the feedback though everyone. In the end I decided on the iPhone 4S. I placed my pre-order and I am just hoping that I can easily make the transition from my trusty BB. I almost went with a Bionic, but had an uneasy feeling about it. One thing I have noticed is that there are a lot of people on the Android side who seem to have a bit of an insecurity complex about the success of the iPhone. Shortly after reading that all iPhone pre-orders were sold out in 12 hours, people started hitting the blogs and forums about how all iPhone users were just dumb sheeple, or brainwashed non technical users. Yes, there is a some of that from both sides, but it seems like the Android fans have been more mean spirited and condescending recently. I am by no means a non-technical user. Before I bought my company I was a software engineer and systems analyst. I have always liked the newest high tech gadgets and I am sure that I would have LOVED to have a Bionic or a Galaxy S and probably would have had a lot of fun with any of the newer Android phones. I am just at a point in my life where I need almost immediate productivity, seamless integration and I really don't have time to tinker with my phone and worry about someone hacking it. Samsung, Motorola, and Apple all offer incredible phones. I can clearly see why people would want to go with any of them over the BB. But, I also understand why some people would stick with the BB. I was also told by a couple friends in law enforcement and the military that the iPhone has come a long way and is much more secure than it used to be. They switched from BB when the iPhone 4 came out and said they never looked back. That being said, I probably wouldn't have gone with either the iPhone or Android had the BB not disappointed me so much and dropped the ball, imho. My Tour is on its last leg and my contract was up almost a year ago. It was time to upgrade and the iPhone seemed to fit the bill best. :) |
A little late for this, but I have been a longtime Blackberry user on Sprint: first the 8830 Worldphone, then the 9650 Bold. This year I upgraded to the Motorola XPRT, which is essentially a Droid Pro with a bigger battery.
The XPRT's advantages over the 9650 are basically fixes for the things I hated most about BB: (1) airtight integration with Google Apps (GMail, Calendar) and (b) better apps. As a bonus, the XPRT has a huge 1860 mAh Lithium-ion battery. Initially the only thing I didn't like about the XPRT was the keyboard layout and tactile feel, but I have gotten used to it and have never looked back. |
Originally Posted by ninjastyle
(Post 17246028)
A little late for this, but I have been a longtime Blackberry user on Sprint: first the 8830 Worldphone, then the 9650 Bold. This year I upgraded to the Motorola XPRT, which is essentially a Droid Pro with a bigger battery.
The XPRT's advantages over the 9650 are basically fixes for the things I hated most about BB: (1) airtight integration with Google Apps (GMail, Calendar) and (b) better apps. As a bonus, the XPRT has a huge 1860 mAh Lithium-ion battery. Initially the only thing I didn't like about the XPRT was the keyboard layout and tactile feel, but I have gotten used to it and have never looked back. |
Originally Posted by CR1970
(Post 17245297)
I did have every intention of going with the new BB. I am more comfortable with the OS and love the keyboard, plus I have been a BB user and fan for years. I was just very disappointed with the non-focusing camera and the lack of a WIFI hotspot.
Originally Posted by CR1970
I also talked with a few people about their Android phones. A couple people said that they were hacked and lost all of their data, and couldn't figure out how it happened. They are not heavy users or into tinkering with their phones at all. They think they may have downloaded something from the app store.
My ideal phone would have BBerry OS stability, email chops and battery life; Android form factor and screen size / clarity; and iPhone usability and app dependability. |
I can't do it...
I want(ed) to switch several times, but the usability is still King on Blackberry. As I write, I got a BB Bold 9700, a ZTE Blade (Android) a SonyEricsson Xperia Mini Pro (Android) and an HP Veer (WebOS).... and I only use the Blackberry! A couple of years ago, I used to be a mobile geek and switched phones between once a week and once a month. Now I have my Blackberry for almost 2 years already and am really keen on something new, just for the sake of having something new, but nothing comes close in my opinion! My last phone prior to the BB was an iPhone 3G which I lost (fortunately, else I wouldn't have taken the expense of the Bold without contract). - I never liked Touchscreens, so that's a big factor. I sent some disturbing mails to customers and colleagues when (for example) rain triggered the "send" button. Also I like to be able to type blind (without looking at the phone) which is simply impossible on a touchscreen. - I do like Android very much. The variety of apps is wonderful and there's an application for just about everything you can think of, that's why I bought the new Xperia Mini Pro (offering Android, small form factor and a physical keyboard).... But it just doesn't work for me. The battery life is killing me. My BB runs 2 days with WiFi and heavy usage, 3 days with medium usage and a week with low usage (intercontinental vacation). The Xperia (as any other Android phone I had before) has to be charged daily, sometimes the Battery drained in as little as 5 hours with maybe 30 minutes of calls but a couple of emails. I love the BB Holster - Slide in and forget, switch off the screen, save battery, lock the Keyboard and have dynamic audio profiles... The only thing that *really* annoys me is the fact that you have to have a BB Contract to use it's features (which on my German contract costs about $11 extra per month and prevents you from swapping sim cards). When I travel intercontinentally, I take my Android with me so I can just pop in a local pay as you go simcard for data. To sum up: Pro Blackberry: - Smart Holster - Excellent Battery Life - Excellent build quality (my BB survived some drops where other phones shattered) - Excellent Keyboard - Excellent Usability (just type Name / Number you want to call, press the green button. You don't need to open a "dialer" first and do 50 steps just to make a call Con Blackberry: - Lack of Apps - Lack of Games - Mediocre Browser - Blackberry option required on contract ------------------------ Pro Android: - Apps Apps Apps - Video Calling with Skype (on some devices like my Xperia) - WiFi Hotspot capability Con Android: - The basics (making a call, sending an email) are too inconvenient for me - too many steps are required. - Battery Life - The requirement to have a touchscreen (personal opinion) - Much higher data traffic (particularly annoying if you want to roam abroad and pay big $ for your traffic) Completely Outside is the HP Veer (WebOS) I quite like it. Nice Apps (but tiny selection compared to Android), "decent" Battery Life (nowhere near Blackberry but a lot better than my Android experiences), decent usability (slide open and start typing)... The reason I can't use it: No BA App! With (average) 1-2 flights per week, I want my mobile boarding pass and am not willing to use an unsupported phone. :( If you're keen on a gadget / toy / multimedia thing: Get Android. If you want to do the basics (Calls, Emails, Calendar, Textmessages, Battery life) and do them right - stick to a Blackberry! |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 17251123)
My ideal phone would have BBerry OS stability, email chops and battery life; Android form factor and screen size / clarity; and iPhone usability and app dependability.
I had an interesting conversation at Verizon though about the new BB OS. They said that the new OS is going to be able to run Android apps, BUT, Blackberry will not offer the entire library of apps, only ones that are cleared or screened first. I am not sure how they would do that or how much truth there is to it, but it was an intriguing idea. |
Originally Posted by raph
(Post 17251272)
I can't do it...
If you're keen on a gadget / toy / multimedia thing: Get Android. If you want to do the basics (Calls, Emails, Calendar, Textmessages, Battery life) and do them right - stick to a Blackberry! I always said I would never switch and would always be a BB user. I just found myself needing features that were not available. I was using the camera far more than I ever expected, and was being limited by BB. I also liked some of the apps other people were using on the iPhones that would be really nice to have. I was actually having people that were with me with iPhones take the pictures or videos and send them back to my office because I couldn't get good shots. The whole sending disturbing e-mails is kind of a concern actually. One of my employees recently switched to an iPhone from her Droid with a keyboard and she has sent more than a few unintentional risque messages because her auto-correct misinterpreted her. It's kind of funny...until I do the same thing with a vendor or client. |
Originally Posted by CR1970
(Post 17251403)
I was hesitant to switch to another OS and i wanted to see what RIM would come out with.
The new Bold's poor camera and lake of a WIFI hotspot were the deciding factors. Rumor is that RIM will add WiFi Hotspot functionality through a BB7 Update. No idea about the camera, I use my Bold (9700) cam for the odd snapshot for Facebook or to photograph drawings that have been made on whiteboards at work or customer sites for that it's good enough. Is the 9900 cam supposed to be worse? |
Originally Posted by raph
(Post 17251465)
Is the 9900 cam supposed to be worse?
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For those of you wanting to do the move over to Android, I found this document pretty interesting (it gives apps that provide similar features to make your Android experience more BB-like):
http://www.companionlink.com/whitepapers/WP_bb_and.pdf |
Originally Posted by CR1970
(Post 17251544)
Yes, it is a non-focusing camera. I tried to take a couple close up shots at the Verizon store and they were horrible. A lot of what I am taking pictures of are things that are very close to the camera, such as a bolt, gear or thread pattern. Or even a close up of notes, estimates, etc. The new Bold 9930's pictures were unusable. I am not sure what they were even thinking. Did RIM actually think that a non-focusing lens would be a step forward??
http://crackberry.com/wifi-hot-spot-...erry-7-devices The lack of Auto-Focus is however really shocking... So compared to the 97x0 the 9900 - is bigger (wider) - has a lower capacity battery - has a touchscreen (which I don't want) - does not have auto-focus Great, I guess I am stuck with my Blackberry forever... *sigh* |
I have a Sprint Moto XPRT (I think it is Driod Pro on Verizon), the battery life is BETTER than my BB Tour ever was.
The email stock app on android, leaves a bit to be desired, but I bought Kaiten Mail, and it is doing push as good or better than the BB. Only webOS phones do it better, and on options there anymore. There is no LTE, but that isn't much of an issue for me on it, and the hardware keyboard is very easy to adjust coming from BB. What I miss more than anything else was the BBM Groups chats, but at this point the group is so small it isn't that big of a deal, everyone is leaving BB these days. what I DON'T miss is the daily or multi daily 5 minute long reboot of BBOS! |
I've never understood the Android market objections... The fact that it's more open is, for me, by far the biggest positive. I hated being stuck with only those things Apple wanted me to use (and having apps that worked fine, and were clearly not malware, being pulled seemingly at random), and having zero other options, outside of a root. It's been fantastic not even needing to use the standard market (or the amazon one) and still being able to find 3rd party apps that function just fine. It does, generally, take an extra 15 seconds to read through the permissions the app wants and a few reviews to make sure it sounds legit, but it's hardly an imposition, given that I'm generally spending a few extra seconds reading the description in the first place. I'd add that, in general, I've experienced far less frustration using the Apple store than the standard Android market, but the 3rd party options generally more than make up for that.
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Originally Posted by CR1970
(Post 17251544)
The new Bold 9930's pictures were unusable.
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