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BearX220 Oct 5, 2011 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by Jimmie76 (Post 17226689)
...my boss has an iPhone 4 and manages a day if she's lucky, she keeps a charging cable at the office permenantly.

I have one at the office, one on the kitchen counter, one in the car dashboard, two in the briefcase, one on the bedside table... etc., etc. It is ridiculous.

GadgetFreak Oct 5, 2011 5:54 pm

Until recently I had an iPhone 4 and a BB9650. I traded the BB for an HTC Droid incredible 2. First shock was that I couldnt see my Exchange email folders on the Droid. That isnt the case with all Android phones but it is with this one. I paid $20 for an app that does mail. It does work well though. I've had lots of trouble with voice recognition on it as well. The voice recognition on the iPhone 4 is vastly better in my hands. Also, I have had the Droid for about 4 months and near as I can figure I can't actually back the whole thing up unless I root it.

The iPhone as they say just works. I had an iPhone 3g previously. I plugged the iPhone 4 into the Mac I used for backups of the previous phone and a window popped up asking if this was a new phone instead of the iPhone 3G. I said yes and everything was added to the new one. Presto, all set up. Mail on the iPhone will be just like the iPad, pluses and minuses. The inability to do much with mail when not online is the single biggest limitation of iOS in my experience. The apps on the iPhone are much better in my experience than on Android. Also, many iPad apps work on the iPhone and quite a few can be downloaded free to the phone if you log into the same iTunes account as the iPad is on. I get about a day of battery life on the iPhone 4 with light voice use and more data use. The Morphie Air I just got this week for it looks to not quite double that.

I was actually thinking of reactivating my BB to replace the Droid. But I got interested in voice recognition on the Droid so I am still playing with that. Me curiosity than anything since I am having trouble with some basic stuff that is supposed to work on the Droid but I, and others judging from the search results I am finding, can't get it to work correctly. Some apps show a lot more promise for voice control, although one paid one simply seems not to work.

So all three have their merits. I would not even hesitate if I had to pick o e to go with the iPhone. If I wanted to hack around and modify the OS on the phone it would be different. But I don't have the time.

jfe Oct 5, 2011 6:51 pm

I never used WP7, but you may want to take a look at it

Could be better at handling multiple email accounts and has all the cool multimedia stuff

planemechanic Oct 5, 2011 7:00 pm

I am a daily user of both a BB 9800 and an iPhone 4. I think the 9800 is a true POS and only use it because my company refuses to have anything to do with iPhone's, even at the VP level. Other BB's that I have had were better, but the iPhone does everything I want without the annoyances of the BB.

jfe Oct 5, 2011 7:18 pm

In my company we can get either the BB or the iPhone. The iPhone is always having problems with email, doesn't have the instant messenger we use, and can't create, reschedule, delegate or cancel meetings

So, I choose the BB

GadgetFreak Oct 5, 2011 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by jfe (Post 17227224)
In my company we can get either the BB or the iPhone. The iPhone is always having problems with email, doesn't have the instant messenger we use, and can't create, reschedule, delegate or cancel meetings

So, I choose the BB

Odd. I can do all of those things on our Exchange server with my iPhone. What type mail server do you use?

jfe Oct 5, 2011 7:53 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 17227306)
Odd. I can do all of those things on our Exchange server with my iPhone. What type mail server do you use?

Domino Servers

GadgetFreak Oct 5, 2011 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by jfe (Post 17227385)
Domino Servers

Okay. IPhones work well with Exchange Servers.

mander Oct 6, 2011 9:53 am

Made the switch from BB to Droid in March and haven't looked back. I wanted Verizon and International so that ruled out the iphone. I got a Droid 2 Global and love the keyboard. We use Lotus for email and that works well. The only dislike I have is the battery life. Even with an extended battery, ap killer and so on I can't make it through a day without plugging in.

CR1970 Oct 6, 2011 10:09 am


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 17226836)

The iPhone as they say just works. I had an iPhone 3g previously. I plugged the iPhone 4 into the Mac I used for backups of the previous phone and a window popped up asking if this was a new phone instead of the iPhone 3G. I said yes and everything was added to the new one. Presto, all set up. Mail on the iPhone will be just like the iPad, pluses and minuses. The inability to do much with mail when not online is the single biggest limitation of iOS in my experience.

So all three have their merits. I would not even hesitate if I had to pick o e to go with the iPhone. If I wanted to hack around and modify the OS on the phone it would be different. But I don't have the time.

Thanks for the info. That's what what would be so attractive to me about the iPhone; I just want it to work. I really don't have time to tinker with my phone either. Being a former programmer, I always enjoyed hacking, but I am at the point now where I need my phone to be a phone first and foremost, but also help me become more efficient with my time, not put another demand on it.

As for backing up, I also had that with my Blackberry although it didn't back up my apps. Being able to do an automated complete backup, OS, apps and all, would be VERY nice.


Originally Posted by BearX220 (Post 17226715)
I have one at the office, one on the kitchen counter, one in the car dashboard, two in the briefcase, one on the bedside table... etc., etc. It is ridiculous.

That is probably my biggest concern with switching to the iPhone, or any smart-multimedia phone for that matter. I am so used to going days at a time before charging my BB. Granted, I am only e-mailing and messaging, but still 2-3 days between charging, even with heavy use is nice. My understanding is that Android is worse, but at least you can have a couple spare batteries. The combination of short battery life AND not being able to change batteries is a big con in my opinion.

It almost sounds like I would be better with both an iPhone and a BB. Not sure if I am prepared for that though. I am hoping the perfect business/multi-media/leisure phone is just around the corner. ;)

MR_MAMA Oct 6, 2011 10:20 am


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 17227306)
Odd. I can do all of those things on our Exchange server with my iPhone. What type mail server do you use?

How do you do a meeting invite on the IPhone 4?

jfe Oct 6, 2011 10:27 am


Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17230016)
As for backing up, I also had that with my Blackberry although it didn't back up my apps. Being able to do an automated complete backup, OS, apps and all, would be VERY nice.

Any app you buy through the Android Market of the Amazon Appstore are synced with your respective accounts.

I have flashed the ROM on my Android, various times, and I can re-install all the apps without a problem

And if the app has data stored in your phone, buy the "My Backup Pro" and that will save the data from the app onto your SD card.

So, old phone, back the apps + data with "My Backup Pro" into SD Card

New phone, put old SD card, install "My Backup Pro" from the market, and restore all your apps, plus data, plus call history, plus SMS messages

And you don't have to worry about email, calendar or contacts. Those are retrieved automatically from your Gmail account

It's so easy, it's not even funny

A lot of the stuff that iOS5 is coming up with, Android has had it for at least a couple of years now

JeremyZ Oct 6, 2011 10:33 am


Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17230016)
[snip]

It almost sounds like I would be better with both an iPhone and a BB. Not sure if I am prepared for that though. I am hoping the perfect business/multi-media/leisure phone is just around the corner. ;)

I've got both an iPhone 4 and a BB. :)

The BB sits on the counter, plugged in for weeks at a time. iPhone goes with me everywhere. Works awesome with Exchange. My iPhone battery will last the day no problem, but if I forget to plug it in overnight, the next morning it'll be awfully low. I've got a power cable at home, at the office and in the car, but I usually only use the one at home.

BTW - I find the touchscreen keyboard totally acceptable. Less easy to use than the Bold keyboard, but better than the Torch.

Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 17230077)
How do you do a meeting invite on the IPhone 4?

The little plus sign on the top right of the calendar screen.

GadgetFreak Oct 6, 2011 10:56 am

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Originally Posted by jfe

Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17230016)
As for backing up, I also had that with my Blackberry although it didn't back up my apps. Being able to do an automated complete backup, OS, apps and all, would be VERY nice.

Any app you buy through the Android Market of the Amazon Appstore are synced with your respective accounts.

I have flashed the ROM on my Android, various times, and I can re-install all the apps without a problem

And if the app has data stored in your phone, buy the "My Backup Pro" and that will save the data from the app onto your SD card.

So, old phone, back the apps + data with "My Backup Pro" into SD Card

New phone, put old SD card, install "My Backup Pro" from the market, and restore all your apps, plus data, plus call history, plus SMS messages

And you don't have to worry about email, calendar or contacts. Those are retrieved automatically from your Gmail account

It's so easy, it's not even funny

A lot of the stuff that iOS5 is coming up with, Android has had it for at least a couple of years now

As far as i can tell you cannot completely back up an Android phone unless you root it. If that isn't the case please tell me. I would love to be able to do it. I basically have done no backups on my DInc 2 because as I searched for information that is what I read.

CR1970 Oct 6, 2011 11:07 am


Originally Posted by jfe (Post 17230122)
Any app you buy through the Android Market of the Amazon Appstore are synced with your respective accounts.

I have flashed the ROM on my Android, various times, and I can re-install all the apps without a problem

And if the app has data stored in your phone, buy the "My Backup Pro" and that will save the data from the app onto your SD card.

So, old phone, back the apps + data with "My Backup Pro" into SD Card

New phone, put old SD card, install "My Backup Pro" from the market, and restore all your apps, plus data, plus call history, plus SMS messages

And you don't have to worry about email, calendar or contacts. Those are retrieved automatically from your Gmail account

It's so easy, it's not even funny

A lot of the stuff that iOS5 is coming up with, Android has had it for at least a couple of years now

Interesting. I was not aware of that. When you say Gmail, would I have to tie my business e-mail accounts in with Gmail? As it is now, I just enter the server information when I setup my iPad mail or through Blackberry BIS and everything starts coming through, but the e-mails are still through either our email server or AOL.

I have separate email icons for my different accounts. On my BB, I have 3 e-mail icons. One for personal, one for business, and one for orders or vendor correspondence. Two of these accounts are on our franchise e-mail server, and one is an old AOL account I have had for about 20 years. We don't actually have any Gmail email accounts. Is what you described still doable with our e-mail accounts?

Also, is it possible to still use iTunes for all of multimedia applications and sync with Android? Since I also have an iPad, I have everything set up through iTunes. Or if I go Android will I have to reorganize how I handle my music, videos, etc.?


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