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jfe Oct 6, 2011 11:38 am

This is the app "MyBackupPro"

https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result

Here, you can backup everything, but yes, you are right, only the app+data is for rooted users. I've rooted so long that I've forgotten that was a requirement

So, you can backup everything, and if you dare to root, the app+data

If you can't/don't want/don't know how to root, the apps are still in the market, and you can retrieve those at any time

I've only used gmail account on my Droid, and never used a POP, exchange account on it, much less multiple, so not sure. You can have multiple gmail accounts on the phone, but not sure about the external types.

iTunes and Android, can't sync them. The way that I use my music is the following, buy it through Amazon, have it automatically download it, once downloaded it automatically adds it to itunes, and the Google Music app looks for that folder to load it to the cloud.

So, it's on the Amazon cloud, itunes and the Google Music cloud, all at the same time.

njx9 Oct 6, 2011 11:52 am

Bit interesting to see the email issues some have had with Android. Mine (Droid X) connected effortlessly (to Exchange, via Corporate Sync), does push sync, and connects separately to multiple Gmail accounts. I have never had an issue. Aside from heavy app use, I've never had an issue with the battery, although I now carry a spare that I can switch out (something I was never able to do with my iPhone). Truth be told, I found using multiple email accounts on the iPhone (3G*) a *far* bigger pain than I have on the X. I also find the 'just works' bit highly disingenuous. I've never had a phone that didn't 'just work' just as reliably as the iPhone did when I got it, and I've had several that 'just work'ed better. *shrug* I guess it's a matter of fully researching the phone to make sure that it does what you need (i.e. Exchange/push/whatever).

Me2E Oct 6, 2011 12:38 pm

Thanks for the info so far folks. It is good to hear a variety of real world experiences.

GadgetFreak Oct 6, 2011 1:27 pm

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I think the Android Gmail integration is top notch. I have a Gmail account, a yahoo account and an Exchange account. Exchange is the main (work) one. For that combo the iPhone is better at least than the Android I have in my opinion. If I was all Gmail I might very well see it differently.

UALOneKPlus Oct 6, 2011 2:32 pm

I actively use BB, Android, and iPhone / iPad. Android is my favorite by far, many different keyboards / physical keyboard if needed, etc. iPhone allows you to do it one way or the high way.

BB is very archaic. Of all of these Android is the best imho.

jfe Oct 6, 2011 2:37 pm

If you want to use Exchange on Android, the Amazon Appstore has the client for sale

http://t.co/M7rg7rOG

From what I've heard this is the best Exchange client for Android

GadgetFreak Oct 6, 2011 5:25 pm

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Originally Posted by jfe
If you want to use Exchange on Android, the Amazon Appstore has the client for sale

http://t.co/M7rg7rOG

From what I've heard this is the best Exchange client for Android

Thanks. That is the one I have. I paid about $20 for it a few months ago.

xtal Oct 6, 2011 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17230016)
...That's what what would be so attractive to me about the iPhone; I just want it to work. I really don't have time to tinker with my phone either. Being a former programmer, I always enjoyed hacking, but I am at the point now where I need my phone to be a phone first and foremost, but also help me become more efficient with my time, not put another demand on it....

This part of your post caught my eye. Have you compared the cellular networks in the areas you frequent? Or perhaps spoken to colleagues about which carrier they use? This may end up having a larger impact on call reception and overall quality, especially since the iPhone and Android phones are available on many networks.

EasterCat Oct 6, 2011 9:53 pm

As someone who also owns a mbp and ipad, the iphone would fit best with your life. Apple is introducing icloud later in October, which will sync all your apple devices. For example, if you take a picture of something on your iphone, it'll sync to any other devices connected to icloud. If you take a picture of yeti, but it manages to stomp your phone 10 minutes later, you'll still have proof in icloud. :D
If you charge your phone at night and have it connected to wifi, the phone'll automatically do ota backups. If you're not the sort of person who remembers to backup regularly, this will be helpful. You can adjust settings on this so it doesn't require a charging phone. Since you have to charge your phone every night anyway, there's no benefit to adjusting this.
Battery life depends on what you do with it. I do minimal calling and about four hours of surfing with battery ending around 30%. Since the iphone 4 gets about 6 hours browsing on 3g, this is about right. However, when I was working in the basement, I used airplane mode, because the phone would've drained from looking for a signal.
Obviously, you'll also have the benefit of having the best of the ipods. If you own an ipod touch or used the ipod on your ipad, you'll know what I mean.
Since you have an ipad, I won't have to discuss the app store. Granted, android's phone market has most of the major apps, if not all of them. So this is one area where you don't have to worry about choosing between iphone or android.
From what I've read about android, there are certain functions you can only access with software hacking. I don't have an issue with it, because I hack my iphone. However, I know some people aren't comfortable with it or don't want to bother. If you don't want to hack to get optimal performance, then you should get an iphone.

Either an android or an iphone will be a great choice.

gfunkdave Oct 8, 2011 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by andrewluu (Post 17225750)
I've owned both (iPhone 4 and Galaxy S), and objectively know that both have their pluses and minuses. You can't really go wrong with either. Thinking about your needs however, I really think the iPhone will be a better choice for you. You already have an iPad so all your iPad apps will port over to the iPhone and you won't need to pay twice for apps. The battery life for the iPhone 4 is still the best in the business and the 4S is slightly better in that capacity. More importantly, just like your iPad and MacBook, "it just works."

You can't really go wrong with either... but life will be a lot simpler if you get the iPhone.

I tend to agree with the above sentiment for you. Since you already have a bunch of Apple gizmos you might as well stick within the same ecosystem.


Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17225301)
From what I have gathered, people really like their Androids early on, then it kind of dies off and they start complaining about apps not totally shutting down, battery life, or apps that work on one Android phone but not on their new Android phone.

The app problem is almost certainly due to incorrectly configured task killers that people have installed. Android is actually quite good at process management and these task killers tend to mess things up if you don't know what you're doing with them.

Battery life will tend to be crappy with big pretty touchscreens. Those screens suck down a lot of power! I think most app compatibility problems arose with older (1.x) versions of Android and aren't really a problem anymore. At least, I haven't found any apps that wouldn't run after upgrades, etc.


Originally Posted by CR1970 (Post 17226437)
Thanks for the input.

After reading the posts here and some of what other sites have said I am not sure if Android is going to work for me. I am a VERY heavy email user on the road, with multiple e-mail addresses for both sending and receiving. Even the salesperson at Verizon said that Android is not as secure and not near as user friendly with multiple addresses, even though he loves and owns one. That being said, the new Android phones just seem like they would be GREAT for multimedia applications. They are loaded with features and technology that I will likely never see on a Blackberry.

The Verizon guy either didn't know what he was talking about or was trying to sell you an iPhone. Android and iOS, properly configured by the IT admin, can each be quite secure. I run multiple email addresses on my Android device (a mix of Exchange, GMail, and custom domains) with no problems. My bf runs work email (Lotus Notes), AOL email, and GMail on his iPhone quite fine too. On my Nexus One, switching accounts is just touching a button in my inbox.

Blackberry is GREAT with email and keyboard. Otherwise it's pretty much a dog. I did miss my BB keyboard immensely when I switched to Android, but I've gotten quite adept at typing on the screen. Whether you get an Android or an iPhone, you'll get used to it. Some Android phones also come with physical keyboards.

If photos are very important to you, I think the iPhone 4's camera is hard to beat...but newer Android models probably give it a run for its money.

Go to a store, play with both, and decide. As I said, since you have a lot of Apple stuff already, it seems that an iPhone is probably the better choice for you.

7Continents Oct 8, 2011 12:28 pm

I'm up for a new phone myself and am in the same boat with Verizon. Will wait for the Nexus S to come out as it will have the newest version of Android, one made for tablets and adapted to phones. If I hate it will trade it for an Iphone.

msnflier Oct 8, 2011 7:22 pm

Bb os 7 & 9900/9930/9850
 
If you're a VzW customer, keep in mind that VzW has a 14-day money back on all of its phones (minus a $35 re-stocking fee), and when I'm going to either purchase a new phone outright (as I did with my 9930) or sign up for a new contract, I try to time it with a period where I know I'm going to be traveling so I can really work it out and see whether it will truly work for me.

I would encourage you to try a BlackBerry 9930 on VzW. As an earlier poster mentioned, it is far and away the best BB to date. If you owned and loved the original BlackBerry Bold 9000, the 9930 will remind you of best of the 9000 (wider keyboard, bigger screen but it's also touch-sensitive) with the plenty of power (1.2Ghz processor) so it rarely lags.

I have owned BBs going back to about 2007 and it seems that BB has finally gotten it right with the OS 7, soon to be updated to OS 7.1 (of course, in true BlackBerry stupidity, they're about to introduce a new OS for their phones based on QNX, allegedly called "BBX"). The web renders correctly and reliably; your apps, contacts, e-mail accounts, Bluetooth/wi-fi/NFC (Near Field Communications) settings are all backed up for free using BlackBerry Desktop and/or BlackBerry Protect (OTA) so if you update the OS it will restore your phone as you had it beforehand. This is also true if you have to get a new phone.

If you travel internationally, "unlocking" a VzW 9930 takes less than five minutes, is stupid simple, especially when you play along with an instructional video - http://n4bb.com/how-to-unlock-your-b...izon-bold-9930 from a place where you can buy an unlocking code for $10, as I did - see http://n4bb.com/blackberry-unlock-codes.

Unlocking your BB phone doesn't void your warranty and it doesn't require "jailbreaking" (for iPhones) or "rooting" (for Android); it allows you to buy a much cheaper SIM card in-country and make calls/use data at (generally) far cheaper rates than using VzW's roaming plans. The only downside is that you'll be using a different phone number and you'll have to set-up your e-mail accounts to work with the new SIM. As to phone calls, it might not be so bad because you can still check your VzW voice mails if you turn off your phone before you leave the US, when it's still on VzW's system., The calls will then just go right to VM.

Ultimately, everyone's MMV but my personal view is that the BB's e-mail management, low power consumption, and security features (including BlackBerry protect, which is free and works very well, I found out the hard way) puts it ahead of iPhone and Android. Yes, BB is weaker in other areas, but I think it's the only option of the three that's practical for productivity vs entertainment.

Vulcan Oct 8, 2011 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by msnflier (Post 17242634)
If you're a VzW customer, keep in mind that VzW has a 14-day money back on all of its phones (minus a $35 re-stocking fee), and when I'm going to either purchase a new phone outright (as I did with my 9930) or sign up for a new contract, I try to time it with a period where I know I'm going to be traveling so I can really work it out and see whether it will truly work for me.

I would encourage you to try a BlackBerry 9930 on VzW. As an earlier poster mentioned, it is far and away the best BB to date. If you owned and loved the original BlackBerry Bold 9000, the 9930 will remind you of best of the 9000 (wider keyboard, bigger screen but it's also touch-sensitive) with the plenty of power (1.2Ghz processor) so it rarely lags.

I have owned BBs going back to about 2007 and it seems that BB has finally gotten it right with the OS 7, soon to be updated to OS 7.1 (of course, in true BlackBerry stupidity, they're about to introduce a new OS for their phones based on QNX, allegedly called "BBX"). The web renders correctly and reliably; your apps, contacts, e-mail accounts, Bluetooth/wi-fi/NFC (Near Field Communications) settings are all backed up for free using BlackBerry Desktop and/or BlackBerry Protect (OTA) so if you update the OS it will restore your phone as you had it beforehand. This is also true if you have to get a new phone.

If you travel internationally, "unlocking" a VzW 9930 takes less than five minutes, is stupid simple, especially when you play along with an instructional video - http://n4bb.com/how-to-unlock-your-b...izon-bold-9930 from a place where you can buy an unlocking code for $10, as I did - see http://n4bb.com/blackberry-unlock-codes.

Unlocking your BB phone doesn't void your warranty and it doesn't require "jailbreaking" (for iPhones) or "rooting" (for Android); it allows you to buy a much cheaper SIM card in-country and make calls/use data at (generally) far cheaper rates than using VzW's roaming plans. The only downside is that you'll be using a different phone number and you'll have to set-up your e-mail accounts to work with the new SIM. As to phone calls, it might not be so bad because you can still check your VzW voice mails if you turn off your phone before you leave the US, when it's still on VzW's system., The calls will then just go right to VM.

Ultimately, everyone's MMV but my personal view is that the BB's e-mail management, low power consumption, and security features (including BlackBerry protect, which is free and works very well, I found out the hard way) puts it ahead of iPhone and Android. Yes, BB is weaker in other areas, but I think it's the only option of the three that's practical for productivity vs entertainment.

The size of the BB 9930 screen is still a big problem for me.

GadgetFreak Oct 8, 2011 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by jfe (Post 17230555)
This is the app "MyBackupPro"

https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result

Here, you can backup everything, but yes, you are right, only the app+data is for rooted users. I've rooted so long that I've forgotten that was a requirement

So, you can backup everything, and if you dare to root, the app+data

If you can't/don't want/don't know how to root, the apps are still in the market, and you can retrieve those at any time

I've only used gmail account on my Droid, and never used a POP, exchange account on it, much less multiple, so not sure. You can have multiple gmail accounts on the phone, but not sure about the external types.

iTunes and Android, can't sync them. The way that I use my music is the following, buy it through Amazon, have it automatically download it, once downloaded it automatically adds it to itunes, and the Google Music app looks for that folder to load it to the cloud.

So, it's on the Amazon cloud, itunes and the Google Music cloud, all at the same time.


I'm confused as to what that app backs up. As of now my phone cannot be rooted. So I'm still not sure what I can backup. Although not being able to back up everything unless you are rooted is almost incomprehensible. What were they thinking???

chx1975 Oct 8, 2011 10:42 pm

You have a BB. You need a keyboard. You buy the T-Mobile G2 (or a HTC Desire Z unlocked from the Great White North eBay if your heart yearns for AT&T). As simple as that.


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