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oneeyejack Jan 8, 2010 8:44 am


Originally Posted by glennaa11 (Post 13129514)
OK. So I have had an evening to play with this thing a bit. Frankly I am a little bit disappointed. But it is more due to what appears to be the limitations of Android than this particular phone. I thought I was going to be able to simply go to the browser, pop in the URL, and voila, I would be able to listen to streaming web radio. But it is not so simple. That was one of the main reasons I bought this thing so I am kinda bummed. There are apps that have some stations preset. But I guess the ones I want to hear aren't the right format (requiring flash player or WMA). And you SOL if you want to listen to most of the BBC.

The touch screen is a little finicky. And the "back" button doesn't work consistently.

Part of this may be my learning curve. I have an old cellphone that I hardly ever use. So I am coming to this whole world of smartphones cold. But I am not a luddite by any means. I just never felt the need to be constantly available by phone. I don't make a lot of calls.

At this point I have just been using it connected to my wifi network. But I guess I will need to decide what sort of T-Mobile plan to get. I may just do a data only plan.

unfortunately, tmobile won't let you do just a data plan. none of the US networks will let you do a data only plan on a cell phone unless you're using one of those data cards.

oneeyejack Jan 8, 2010 8:49 am


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 13134568)
The other outraged tmo group are the early purchasers of the G1 who are now stuck with their contracts for several more months. Since this group tends to be the innovators, they now want to get their hands on the latest gizmo and are being told they'll have to buy an unlocked Nexus One at the full $500 price or wait until their current contract runs out later this year. I'm among this group.

next time, just buy your new phon on a one year contract! ;) yes, you might be paying a little more, but at least you'll be able to upgrade to a new phone. new phones come our all the time.

gfunkdave Jan 8, 2010 9:28 am


Originally Posted by oneeyejack (Post 13139390)
next time, just buy your new phon on a one year contract! ;) yes, you might be paying a little more, but at least you'll be able to upgrade to a new phone. new phones come our all the time.

Sadly, T-mobile doesn't offer 1 year contracts anymore.

trach500 Jan 8, 2010 11:10 am

I was extremely disappointed with the elimination of 1 year contracts. I used to be eligible to get a new phone every 8 months. Now, they are pushing 2 year contracts for a subsidized phone price or no contract with no subsidy, but cheaper plan prices.

LIH Prem Jan 8, 2010 11:40 am


Originally Posted by trach500 (Post 13140398)
Now, they are pushing 2 year contracts for a subsidized phone price or no contract with no subsidy, but cheaper plan prices.

guess which is the better deal?

no contract, pay for your phone up front, or you can pay t-mo over 20 months with no interest. Paying for your phone is better than paying $480 extra over 2 years.

mbreuer Jan 8, 2010 11:43 am


Originally Posted by trach500 (Post 13140398)
I was extremely disappointed with the elimination of 1 year contracts. I used to be eligible to get a new phone every 8 months. Now, they are pushing 2 year contracts for a subsidized phone price or no contract with no subsidy, but cheaper plan prices.

Unfortunately, for those grandfathered on various old rate plans, the new, "cheaper" plans actually cost significantly more. I can get subsidized new phones and keep my old rates as long as the new phone isn't the Nexus One :(

Also, TMO will unlock any of their phones if you've been a customer for a short period of time - IIRC 60 or 90 days.

glennaa11 Jan 8, 2010 4:29 pm

Yes, I found out today when I finally went to the T-Mobile store that I couldn't just get the data plan. So I had to do the $30 500 minute call plan plus $25 for the unlimited Android data plan. I don't do sms so I save $5 by skipping text messages. I can always changes plans any time if I find I need to.

The voice to text things works pretty well and saves a lot of typing time on that wee little keyboard.

dtsm Jan 8, 2010 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by trach500 (Post 13140398)
I was extremely disappointed with the elimination of 1 year contracts. I used to be eligible to get a new phone every 8 months. Now, they are pushing 2 year contracts for a subsidized phone price or no contract with no subsidy, but cheaper plan prices.

TMO is becoming more mainstream - 2 yr contracts, migration fees, etc. - now closer to Vz and ATT. But still the most 'economic' of the carriers, especially with UMA.... POV.

trach500 Jan 9, 2010 10:59 am


Originally Posted by dtsm (Post 13142678)
TMO is becoming more mainstream - 2 yr contracts, migration fees, etc. - now closer to Vz and ATT. But still the most 'economic' of the carriers, especially with UMA.... POV.

I have heard they will not be introducing any new "UMA" phone again. I seeing it on the Howard Forums.

OverThereTooMuch Jan 9, 2010 11:21 am

People were calling this phone a "game changer" before it launched. I don't see that it's changed anything, except maybe to annoy customers because of the lack of plans (though I think they may be fixing that soon).


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 13139020)
I believe that the nexus one is unlocked no matter which price you choose to buy it at, so that's something to consider as well, especially to frequent international travelers willing to use a local sim when traveling.

Because it's on TMO, doesn't it only support their goofy 3G frequencies? I'm not sure if you can get 3G on the US version of the NP outside of the US. This is worth looking into before ordering a phone for this reason.

gfunkdave Jan 9, 2010 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by OverThereTooMuch (Post 13146806)
Because it's on TMO, doesn't it only support their goofy 3G frequencies? I'm not sure if you can get 3G on the US version of the NP outside of the US. This is worth looking into before ordering a phone for this reason.

The Nexus One supports UMTS on 900/1700/2100 MHz, so it will work in the US (on T-mobile), Canada (on DAVE Wireless and WIND Wireless), and the rest of the world.

Besides, all NOrth American providers' 3G frequencies are "goofy".The rest of the world pretty uniformly uses 900/2100 MHz for 3G. Here we have 850, 1700, and 1900.

LIH Prem Jan 9, 2010 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by OverThereTooMuch (Post 13146806)
Because it's on TMO, doesn't it only support their goofy 3G frequencies? I'm not sure if you can get 3G on the US version of the NP outside of the US. This is worth looking into before ordering a phone for this reason.

It does not do AT&T 3g, but I'm told it's just a software switch to do one or the other. (take that for what it's worth, as with the 802.11n, multi-touch, etc, hardware that's reportedly inside it. Until they make that stuff available, you don't have it as far as I'm concerned. Nice to know it might be there someday, but who knows why none of it is enabled now. Could be anything if those features have not been enabled and properly tested and qualified prior to the handsets release.)

I'm pretty sure the 3 frequencies they picked are good for worldwide use, except for AT&T and Rogers. (yep, see the reply right above mine. Thanks Dave.)

-David

gfunkdave Jan 10, 2010 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 13149629)
It does not do AT&T 3g, but I'm told it's just a software switch to do one or the other. (take that for what it's worth, as with the 802.11n, multi-touch, etc, hardware that's reportedly inside it. Until they make that stuff available, you don't have it as far as I'm concerned. Nice to know it might be there someday, but who knows why none of it is enabled now. Could be anything if those features have not been enabled and properly tested and qualified prior to the handsets release.)

I'm pretty sure the 3 frequencies they picked are good for worldwide use, except for AT&T and Rogers. (yep, see the reply right above mine. Thanks Dave.)

-David

Changing frequencies requires a change in hardware. Software alone can't magically radiate new frequencies. The only way that what you describe could be accomplished is if the Nexus One currently for sale also includes hardware supporting other frequencies - hardware that is turned off by the current firmware. I haven't heard anything about it either way.

:)

milepig Jan 10, 2010 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by oneeyejack (Post 13139390)
next time, just buy your new phon on a one year contract! ;) yes, you might be paying a little more, but at least you'll be able to upgrade to a new phone. new phones come our all the time.

As far as I know, the only way I could get my G1 was through tmo, with the 2 year contract. There WAS no other choice.

LIH Prem Jan 10, 2010 7:02 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 13154279)
Changing frequencies requires a change in hardware. Software alone can't magically radiate new frequencies. The only way that what you describe could be accomplished is if the Nexus One currently for sale also includes hardware supporting other frequencies - hardware that is turned off by the current firmware. I haven't heard anything about it either way.

:)

I have no idea how it works, it's a rumor. And as I said, don't rely on anything that doesn't exist when it ships.


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