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flyzabit Apr 26, 2022 10:29 pm

So do I rebook the first hotel night? No more RT-PCR required after May 1
 
So I booked a trip in May via BKK back in March. I completed the Thailand Pass process with insurance, Test & Go hotel SHA++ hotel package with PCR for 1 night and booked a second night separately as "just" a hotel night.
Now that the RT-PCR / isolation until results requirement is being dropped as of May 1, should I just cancel the first night and rebook as another "ordinary" hotel night?
I wrote an email to the Test & Go email address but have not heard back yet.
I'd like to assume that they will accept the current QR code / Thailand Pass with insurance and let me cancel the hotel Test & Go package / rebook the hotel to just regular night rates without question.
Anyone have an insight?

ft101 Apr 26, 2022 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 34199803)
I don't know about now, but in the past, they were only stamping people in for the length of their insurance policies or length of their visa, whichever was less. Are they still doing that? Also, that's pretty pricey insurance for a 30 day covid policy.

You'll get the full length of your visa, or extension of stay stamp or whatever with 30 days insurance. Hundreds if not thousands have already done it.

The original insurance is indeed pricey, perhaps because it had to cover everyone up to 99 years for one price. The other ones are much more reasonabe including the one that goes up to 85 years old.

estnet Apr 26, 2022 11:31 pm

Look at the tp page. It says people with prior approval don't need to apply for new qr code. And yes you no longer need the test and go package, just insurance and vax after May 1.


Originally Posted by flyzabit (Post 34199844)
So I booked a trip in May via BKK back in March. I completed the Thailand Pass process with insurance, Test & Go hotel SHA++ hotel package with PCR for 1 night and booked a second night separately as "just" a hotel night.
Now that the RT-PCR / isolation until results requirement is being dropped as of May 1, should I just cancel the first night and rebook as another "ordinary" hotel night?
I wrote an email to the Test & Go email address but have not heard back yet.
I'd like to assume that they will accept the current QR code / Thailand Pass with insurance and let me cancel the hotel Test & Go package / rebook the hotel to just regular night rates without question.
Anyone have an insight?


Lobster Apr 27, 2022 6:53 am


Originally Posted by flyzabit (Post 34199844)
So I booked a trip in May via BKK back in March. I completed the Thailand Pass process with insurance, Test & Go hotel SHA++ hotel package with PCR for 1 night and booked a second night separately as "just" a hotel night.
Now that the RT-PCR / isolation until results requirement is being dropped as of May 1, should I just cancel the first night and rebook as another "ordinary" hotel night?
I wrote an email to the Test & Go email address but have not heard back yet.
I'd like to assume that they will accept the current QR code / Thailand Pass with insurance and let me cancel the hotel Test & Go package / rebook the hotel to just regular night rates without question.
Anyone have an insight?

My hotel proactively contacted me and asked what I wanted to do. I could cancel the entire booking for a refund. Or keep the parts of the booking I wanted eg the room and the airport transfer but no PCR test and get hotel credit for the cancelled services. As I am staying at the hotel anyway I kept the booking and will get the credit for the not required test

LIH Prem Apr 27, 2022 8:36 pm

There's lots of places besides TGIA to look for insurance, including a broker that sells entry insurance online at https://misterprakan.com
the long term stay insurance I looked at was up to age 99, and a lot cheaper than TGIA.

-David

ichigen Apr 28, 2022 9:07 am

Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier or TP web site,
but if one arriving at BKK very late on April 29 (say at 2300) and
wait until midnight to proceed to the immigration. Can this qualify for the new rules of Thailand Pass ?

Schwann Apr 28, 2022 11:26 am


Originally Posted by ichigen (Post 34203907)
Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier or TP web site,
but if one arriving at BKK very late on April 29 (say at 2300) and
wait until midnight to proceed to the immigration. Can this qualify for the new rules of Thailand Pass ?

You'll have to satisfy the airline most likely.

estnet Apr 28, 2022 11:36 am


Originally Posted by ichigen (Post 34203907)
Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier or TP web site,
but if one arriving at BKK very late on April 29 (say at 2300) and
wait until midnight to proceed to the immigration. Can this qualify for the new rules of Thailand Pass ?

No, because the airline will look at the rules based on what IATA says AND the rules don't change on April 30, they change on May 1.

The Shadow Apr 28, 2022 11:55 am

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this. If it is not, I apologize, and would appreciate if someone could point me into the right direction...

We want to come visit Thailand next week, under the new rules. I've seen quite a few posts in this thread about difficulties with insurance... it seems to me that the absolute rock-bottom cheapest price is WorldTrips Atlas International, as they could supposedly cover my entire 15 day trip for under 20 USD. Is that correct? Or did I miss an even cheaper option? (I know WorldTrips Atlas International seems plenty cheap already, but considering that we are a large group of people, every extra dollar is multiplied by many people and thus adds up quickly).

Second of all, supposing we decide to spring for a better option - one that covers asymptomatic expenses (i.e. if someone tests positive, a policy that would cover their jail forced quarantine hotel for 10 days, the cost of changing flights, etc). What would be the insurance company to check for the cheapest policy with that kind of coverage, that is eligible for Thailand Pass approval?

Thanks!

LIH Prem Apr 28, 2022 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 34199896)
You'll get the full length of your visa, or extension of stay stamp or whatever with 30 days insurance. Hundreds if not thousands have already done it.

Right, different visa types I guess.

I was referring to the person that asked about the long term non-O retirement visa. Those long term visas have insurance requirements above and beyond what you need as a tourist or even when entering on a 90 day visa. It is an issue for them.

-David

ft101 Apr 29, 2022 12:47 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 34205190)
Right, different visa types I guess.

I was referring to the person that asked about the long term non-O retirement visa. Those long term visas have insurance requirements above and beyond what you need as a tourist or even when entering on a 90 day visa. It is an issue for them.

Not for Thailand Pass purposes. To obtain a couple of visa types, or to extend the permission of stay from them, there is another insurance requirement. For a long term "O" extension (which is what the poster upthread mentioned) there is no such requirement anyway.

30 days Covid insurance is all that's required for a Thailand Pass and is available to age 99.

SKT-DK Apr 29, 2022 4:02 am

I am pleased to say that the new TP system that went live at midnight responded with an approval within 8 hours (and yes I was a bit paranoid leaving on a two-day trip without prior approval to return, but all good now!)

b74l Apr 29, 2022 11:17 am


Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 34206186)
I am pleased to say that the new TP system that went live at midnight responded with an approval within 8 hours (and yes I was a bit paranoid leaving on a two-day trip without prior approval to return, but all good now!)

Thanks good feedback. We submitted two applications (one Thai national and one non-Thai), and received approval for both 11 hours later..so no problem either.

tomwhom Apr 29, 2022 12:29 pm

I submitted 4pm yesterday and got approval letter 11AM today, less than 18 hours, significant faster than my March application, which took about 6 days. This time I still used my employer provided global travel insurance coverage without issue like last time, so I saved at least $40 not bad HAHA:-).

I will departure next Friday.

ryman554 Apr 29, 2022 12:34 pm

First time user here... And the application process is "opaque"

1. It want a vaccine certification with passports information and all that for each shot. Of course, I am a lowly american and only have the CDC card. Do I just upload that three times?

2. It wants a jpg of the insurance documents or something. I went with AXA. I got a *pdf* of some summary, what am i supposed to put here?

Leaving in 11 days, so I have time, just probably not for screwups.

SKT-DK Apr 29, 2022 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by b74l (Post 34207110)
Thanks good feedback. We submitted two applications (one Thai national and one non-Thai), and received approval for both 11 hours later..so no problem either.

Good to hear! My experience is that nationality does not really matter - the times we have applied for the Thailand Pass, the approval has come at the same time (also one Thai and one non-Thai, the latter with the ‘anomaly’ of not having to fulfil the insurance requirement)

tomwhom Apr 29, 2022 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by ryman554 (Post 34207323)
First time user here... And the application process is "opaque"

1. It want a vaccine certification with passports information and all that for each shot. Of course, I am a lowly american and only have the CDC card. Do I just upload that three times?

2. It wants a jpg of the insurance documents or something. I went with AXA. I got a *pdf* of some summary, what am i supposed to put here?

Leaving in 11 days, so I have time, just probably not for screwups.


1) Yes I believe twice as no boost shot info needed

2) Just screen shot the PDF file and you will get PNG or JPG file

ryman554 Apr 29, 2022 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by tomwhom (Post 34207380)
1) Yes I believe twice as no boost shot info needed

2) Just screen shot the PDF file and you will get PNG or JPG file

I'm assuming the 2-page document summary listing coverage and pricing and effective dates is the one.

Thanks!

Davvidd Apr 29, 2022 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by ryman554 (Post 34207383)
I'm assuming the 2-page document summary listing coverage and pricing and effective dates is the one.

Thanks!

There is also an online free pdf to jpg convertor.

ryman554 Apr 29, 2022 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by tomwhom (Post 34207380)
1) Yes I believe twice as no boost shot info needed

2) Just screen shot the PDF file and you will get PNG or JPG file

Can confirm they accepted it.

thanks for the help!

anc305 Apr 30, 2022 10:44 am

I am looking at travel insurance on the Thai pass page for a 14 day trip. FWD - 650b for 30 days , SayHI20Thailand - 1100b for 15 days , and AXA 2504b for 15 days. I have a letter from my medical provider that I am insured for covid anywhere - anytime. Any reason not to go for the cheapest option just to make things easy for the Thai pass approval ? Thanks

SKT-DK Apr 30, 2022 11:09 am


Originally Posted by anc305 (Post 34209432)
I am looking at travel insurance on the Thai pass page for a 14 day trip. FWD - 650b for 30 days , SayHI20Thailand - 1100b for 15 days , and AXA 2504b for 15 days. I have a letter from my medical provider that I am insured for covid anywhere - anytime. Any reason not to go for the cheapest option just to make things easy for the Thai pass approval ? Thanks

If you already have insurance cover, what is your reason for wanting another one? - as long as your policy specifies an amount greater than the minimum, and specifically mentions covid, that should be fine

anc305 Apr 30, 2022 11:30 am


Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 34209506)
If you already have insurance cover, what is your reason for wanting another one? - as long as your policy specifies an amount greater than the minimum, and specifically mentions covid, that should be fine

Thats the problem. My policy letter does not have a $ amount listed in the letter. Just the standard co-pays and such. I asked when I requested the letter from Aetna and they said they don't put a $ amount as it is unlimited. I saw that some folks got approval without a $ amont listed but I don't want any snags in the approval process.

SKT-DK Apr 30, 2022 11:42 am


Originally Posted by anc305 (Post 34209561)
Thats the problem. My policy letter does not have a $ amount listed in the letter. Just the standard co-pays and such. I asked when I requested the letter from Aetna and they said they don't put a $ amount as it is unlimited. I saw that some folks got approval without a $ amont listed but I don't want any snags in the approval process.

Ah ok - you could always try using that, as the commitment post-29 April is that all applications will be processed within 48 hrs, so the time lost will be limited.

I just got mine approved in less than ten hours for arrival tomorrow, and that is using my virtual Thai social security card as proof of insurance, which is another non-standard thing (gosh I am getting tired of spending endless time educating airport staff on this and the ever changing requirements :/ )

LIH Prem Apr 30, 2022 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 34205935)
Not for Thailand Pass purposes. To obtain a couple of visa types, or to extend the permission of stay from them, there is another insurance requirement. For a long term "O" extension (which is what the poster upthread mentioned) there is no such requirement anyway.

30 days Covid insurance is all that's required for a Thailand Pass and is available to age 99.

I thought he said annual retirement visa. Nonetheless, and hopefully we can let this go ...

Perhaps we can agree on this: If you're entering Thailand on a visa with insurance requirements above and beyond that of the Thai Pass requirements, then you'll need to meet that requirement.

Anyway it really doesn't matter to most people posting here. Anybody entering on a visa like that should probably seek guidance elsewhere.

-David

ft101 May 1, 2022 1:39 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 34210741)
Anybody entering on a visa like that should probably seek guidance elsewhere.

There's one thing we can agree on. ;)

thbe May 1, 2022 11:10 am


Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 34209587)
just got mine approved in less than ten hours for arrival tomorrow, and that is using my virtual Thai social security card as proof of insurance, which is another non-standard thing (gosh I am getting tired of spending endless time educating airport staff on this and the ever changing requirements :/ )

Had three TP approvals under the new test-free rules so far. No need to request for a new TP for minor flight changes of less then 1 week.

The first TP was approved within 12,5 hours (the website was buggy as hell when I‘ve applied for that). The second TP took 38 minutes to get approved. And after requesting the third TP I‘ve got the approval email before I‘ve got the confirmation of registration. Both within a few seconds after submitting my request.

All new TP are valid for entering 7 days after or before the requested arrival date.

Hard to see the sense of that, as it will still discourage tourists from visiting Thailand. For sure the TP will be scrapped from July 1. But it‘s very likely, that the TP will end before June 1. They can still check the vaccination documents at check-in and/off at the immigration.

The Shadow May 1, 2022 11:18 am

Need a little help submitting my Thailand Pass application, please...

First question: for insurance, I went with WorldTrips Atlas International, but I'm not sure exactly what to upload to Thailand Pass. I've attached two images to this post - do I upload the page that has the WorldTrps and Lloyd's logos at the top (one page for all 4 of us), and upload it 4 times? Or do I upload the page that has the green Ministry of Public Health logo at the top (which WorldTrips has provided four separate pages of, one for each person), and upload each individual's page under their name?

Second question: Our group consists of 4 people: 3 vaccinated (or rather, 2 vaccinated parents and their unvaccinated young child), and a fourth person who is an unvaccinated adult. Can all 4 people be included in one single Thailand Pass application? Or does the unvaccinated adult need a separate application, since they will be providing a pre-departure RT-PCR test to avoid quarantine, and thus perhaps needs to undergo a different approval process?

Thanks in advance
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thbe May 1, 2022 11:48 am


Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 34211768)
Need a little help submitting my Thailand Pass application, please...

First question: for insurance, I went with WorldTrips Atlas International, but I'm not sure exactly what to upload to Thailand Pass. I've attached two images to this post - do I upload the page that has the WorldTrps and Lloyd's logos at the top (one page for all 4 of us), and upload it 4 times? Or do I upload the page that has the green Ministry of Public Health logo at the top (which WorldTrips has provided four separate pages of, one for each person), and upload each individual's page under their name?

Option A is perfect as it has everything requested. Option B is missing the word „Covid“. So go for option A.


Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 34211768)
Second question: Our group consists of 4 people: 3 vaccinated (or rather, 2 vaccinated parents and their unvaccinated young child), and a fourth person who is an unvaccinated adult. Can all 4 people be included in one single Thailand Pass application? Or does the unvaccinated adult need a separate application, since they will be providing a pre-departure RT-PCR test to avoid quarantine, and thus perhaps needs to undergo a different approval process?

Every adult needs his own Thailand Pass. So even the vaccinated parents need one TP each. The unvaccinated child doesn‘t need its own TP (if it‘s under the age of 6), but has to be added to one of the parents‘ TP. If the unvaccinated child is 6 years or older, it needs its own TP as well.

So you will need to apply for 3 or 4 TP, depending on the age of the child (younger than 6 years or not).

Diplomatico May 1, 2022 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by thbe (Post 34211819)
Option B is missing the word „Covid“. So go for option A.

Good reminder. Roojai.com offers the COVID specific policy for 650 THB, if anyone is looking for a relatively inexpensive option.

The Shadow May 2, 2022 3:21 am


Originally Posted by thbe (Post 34211819)
Option A is perfect as it has everything requested. Option B is missing the word „Covid“. So go for option A.



Every adult needs his own Thailand Pass. So even the vaccinated parents need one TP each. The unvaccinated child doesn‘t need its own TP (if it‘s under the age of 6), but has to be added to one of the parents‘ TP. If the unvaccinated child is 6 years or older, it needs its own TP as well.

So you will need to apply for 3 or 4 TP, depending on the age of the child (younger than 6 years or not).

Thank you!

The Shadow May 3, 2022 5:07 pm

Thanks for the help. I was able to apply for the Thailand pass, and we all got approved!

Now, here's where it gets interesting... as mentioned here previously, the current Thailand passes are issued not just for the date you requested, but are valid for entering Thailand as early as 7 days before, or as late as 7 days afterward. This is great for us, because something came up and we need to delay our trip 5 days. The thing is... one of the people in our group is not vaccinated. She qualified for the no-quarantine pass by submitting a RT-PCR test taken less than 72 hours before the originally planned departure - yet her Thailand Pass is valid for 7 days after the originally planned arrival date, just like us vaccinated folks. So by the time we land in Thailand 5 days later than planned, her Thailand Pass will still be valid... but the RT-PCR test it was based on will be over a week old!

Is this a problem? Do we need to somehow update her pass with a newer test closer to the actual flight (or apply for an entirely new Thailand Pass), do we use the existing pass but bring along results of a newer test, or do we forget about the test altogether and enjoy this potential "loophole" in the system?

EDIT: I just noticed that the printable PDF of the TP says "Please note that if you enter Thailand using an RT-PCR test result, your test result must remain valid at the time of departure." Does that just mean that she needs a valid test at time of departure (but could be a newer test also)? Or does it mean that once the original PCR test dies (i.e. becomes more that 72 hours old), the Thailand Pass dies with it (despite the listed expiration date being later), and she needs to apply for a new pass?

estnet May 4, 2022 3:38 am

Thailand is a master at making things murky. Since the pass is free and they seem to be processing them quickly if it was me I'd just get a new one to avoid any problems.


Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 34218588)
Thanks for the help. I was able to apply for the Thailand pass, and we all got approved!

Now, here's where it gets interesting... as mentioned here previously, the current Thailand passes are issued not just for the date you requested, but are valid for entering Thailand as early as 7 days before, or as late as 7 days afterward. This is great for us, because something came up and we need to delay our trip 5 days. The thing is... one of the people in our group is not vaccinated. She qualified for the no-quarantine pass by submitting a RT-PCR test taken less than 72 hours before the originally planned departure - yet her Thailand Pass is valid for 7 days after the originally planned arrival date, just like us vaccinated folks. So by the time we land in Thailand 5 days later than planned, her Thailand Pass will still be valid... but the RT-PCR test it was based on will be over a week old!

Is this a problem? Do we need to somehow update her pass with a newer test closer to the actual flight (or apply for an entirely new Thailand Pass), do we use the existing pass but bring along results of a newer test, or do we forget about the test altogether and enjoy this potential "loophole" in the system?

EDIT: I just noticed that the printable PDF of the TP says "Please note that if you enter Thailand using an RT-PCR test result, your test result must remain valid at the time of departure." Does that just mean that she needs a valid test at time of departure (but could be a newer test also)? Or does it mean that once the original PCR test dies (i.e. becomes more that 72 hours old), the Thailand Pass dies with it (despite the listed expiration date being later), and she needs to apply for a new pass?


Always Flyin May 4, 2022 7:20 am


Originally Posted by estnet (Post 34219477)
Thailand is a master at making things murky. Since the pass is free and they seem to be processing them quickly if it was me I'd just get a new one to avoid any problems.

Agree. I would get a new Thailand Pass and a new timely PCR test.

The risk in not doing so is the possibility of a mandatory quarantine on arrival.

SKT-DK May 4, 2022 8:28 am

I fail to see how this is murky at all - she would need a new PCR test meeting the 72hr requirement, simple as that. The Thailand pass +7 days should not be an issue, but to be on the safe side and if you have time, then by all means get a new one.

thbe May 4, 2022 11:59 am

No need for a new TP, but of course she needs a new PCR test.

anc305 May 5, 2022 10:05 am

I have a few questions and would appreciate some feedback

I decided to purchase the FWD insurance from the Thai pass page just to be safe. It went thru and I printed the page that has the policy number and dates but did not recieve an e-mail as stated. Should the printed page be good and do they check it ?

I applied for the Thai Pass. I checked back 24 hours later using my locator code and it was approved. I printed out the QR code page and details. Once again no e-mail as stated. Is this e-mail necessary ?

And last , do you have to download the MorChana application anymore ?

Thanks

Always Flyin May 6, 2022 5:08 am


Originally Posted by anc305 (Post 34223737)
I have a few questions and would appreciate some feedback

Please keep in mind this is Thailand. Things routinely change overnight.


I decided to purchase the FWD insurance from the Thai pass page just to be safe. It went thru and I printed the page that has the policy number and dates but did not recieve an e-mail as stated. Should the printed page be good and do they check it ?
Yes, the printed page should be sufficient. A month ago, all they checked was the Thailand Pass. They didn't ask to see any of the supporting documents on arrival.


I applied for the Thai Pass. I checked back 24 hours later using my locator code and it was approved. I printed out the QR code page and details. Once again no e-mail as stated. Is this e-mail necessary ?
As long as you have the single approval page with the QR code on it, you are fine.


And last , do you have to download the MorChana application anymore ?


No one checked. I had it, but never activated it.

SKT-DK May 6, 2022 8:21 am


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34225968)
Please keep in mind this is Thailand. Things routinely change overnight.

Yes, the printed page should be sufficient. A month ago, all they checked was the Thailand Pass. They didn't ask to see any of the supporting documents on arrival.

As long as you have the single approval page with the QR code on it, you are fine.

No one checked. I had it, but never activated it.

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The printed insurance paper will be fine for arrival in Thailand, but the airline getting you here will demand to see it at check-in - at least QR does and I have had to educate them for 20 mins every time that I am exempt for that requirement when they demand to see it. Happens every time.

greendx May 6, 2022 12:09 pm

Has anyone purchased insurance from insuremytrip? They are an aggregator of various travel insurance plans and I normally use their services but struggling to find a plan that specifically states that Covid is covered. Reached out to support and was told that as long as their plans don't have language excluding Covid coverage than its covered. Don't want to take a chance getting Thailand pass rejected. I prefer to use one of insuremytrips plans because I've generally had good experience with them and their coverage is better with cheaper options than the plan offered via AXA Thailand. Before I look at other insurance options that meet both my needs and Thailand Pass requirements I wanted to check here first.


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