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Old Jan 3, 2015, 2:56 am
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Step-by-Step Guide to Getting a Taxi at Suvarnabhumi Airport (BKK)


BKK Terminal Map

Source: AOT

MAP KEY

Arrival Gates - Level Two
Immigration
Baggage Claim Carousels
Customs and Exits to Landside Terminal Area
Elevators/Escalators to Ground Floor Level One
Numbered Exits to Outside (taxi queues are near exits 4 & 7)

WHAT TO DO

Taxis accept cash only. There are ATMs and currency exchangers inside the terminal.
  • Take an elevator or escalator down to the ground level.
  • Follow the signs to one of the two taxi queues outside of the terminal on Level One.
  • The taxi queue attendant will ask your destination and write it on a taxi slip. UPDATE: There are no longer attendants to write your destination at BKK. You get a slip from a touchscreen kiosk which directs you to a parking stall number where you meet your car/driver.
  • The larger part of the taxi slip is yours to keep, the smaller part goes to your driver. Be sure to keep your taxi slip as it contains information you will need if a problem arises. Do not give your portion of the taxi slip to the driver, even if he asks for it. UPDATE: There is no portion of the new slip from the kiosk to give the driver.

BASE COST
  • Airport Fee - THB 50 per taxi levied from the airport (never to the airport)
  • THB 35 - flag drop through 1km
  • +THB 5.50/km for kilometers 1+ through 10
  • +THB 6.50/km for kilometers 10+ through 20
  • +THB 7.50/km for kilometers 20-40
  • +THB 2 per minute waiting or standing in traffic (less than 6kph)

TOLLS
  • THB 75 to city center (two toll booths)
  • THB 60 to DMK

SAMPLE FARES FROM BKK TO...
Amounts are approximate and will vary with traffic, specific drop point, etc.
  • City Center - THB 170-200
  • Grand Palace - THB 215
  • Don Mueang Airport (DMK) - THB 290
  • Hua Hin - THB ___ (typically a negotiated flat fee)
  • Pattaya - THB ___ (typically a negotiated flat fee)

FARE CALCULATOR TOOLS
Reasonably accurate fare estimates are available from a number of websites and apps. These services provide estimated base fares only. Calculations do not include traffic, tolls, airport fees, etc. Reliability varies - use at your own risk.
FAQs

Q: Should I use the hotel's airport transfer service instead of a taxi?A: It depends on your comfort zone, budget, time of day, number of people/bags, etc. In general, the cost will probably be about two to three times the typical taxi fare, or more. If you are relatively new to Asia, it might be a bit overwhelming, and you might find it reassuring to see someone holding a sign with your name as you walk out of baggage claim.
Q: Is it best to take the expressway or surface streets?A: Depending on your destination and time of day, surface streets might be quicker and/or shorter. However, expressway tolls will usually add less than THB 200 to the trip (see above), so you may wish to defer to your driver.

Q: What types of scams should I watch for?A: The most common thing you'll encounter is taxi drivers who do not want to use the meter. They will often ask for a flat fee that is usually much higher than the meter would register. If a driver refuses to use the meter, it's best to exit the taxi and get another. Do not get angry or argue with the driver. If a driver demands more money on arrival at your hotel, wait until your bags have been offloaded from the vehicle, then seek out a porter or other hotel employee to assist you. Again, do not get angry or argue with the driver. A driver may say there is a THB 50 fee to go to the airport. There is no fee to go TO the airport. If the fee is mentioned at the outset, get out and flag down a new taxi. If it is mentioned upon arrival at the airport, remove all your belongings from the taxi and calmly state that there is no such fee while handing over the metered amount. If the driver is insistent, offering to call over a police officer to assist will usually put an end to the discussion.

Q: What is the most common meter scam?
A: Very often, when you enter the taxi, the meter is obscured with a rag or towel, so you do not see that it has been running prior to your entrance,
and is now well over 100 Baht. Always ensure that you observe the driver starting the meter.
Q: If the driver does scam me, how much money are we talking about?A: Usually no more than THB 200-300, which is about USD 7-10
Q: I think I still have other questions...A: Just hit the reply button and get feedback from other helpful FlyerTalkers who take Bangkok taxis regularly!

Q: This all sounds like hassle. Is there some way I can use a small amount of money to make that go away?A: The AOT limo stands before and immediately after customs are trustworthy, although their initial quote will be for their most expensive vehicle. Ask for the Isuzu SUV. You'll be looking at 1,050THB / $33.50 to the center of town, inclusive of all fees and fares, and a small increment on that for a sedan. Credit cards are accepted. You will get a printed receipt before you get in the taxi. The vehicle will be well-driven, clean, and will have seatbelts.



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Old Feb 4, 2016, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Plato90s
How is that "problem solved" where you are suggesting the guy short-change the driver by 25bht?

You think that it's a good idea to refuse to pay a fee which is clearly printed because you just don't feel like it's something you're willing to pay?

In what other situations would you take this approach?
"Yes, I can see the menu clearly spells out a 10% service fee, but I don't feel like I should pay so I am refusing to pay the full amount on the bill"
OP complained about the surcharge. If OP wants to take the cab they have two options, pay the fee or not. Or OP can decide to walk off the property and hail a taxi.

I gave no indication as to what they should do nor what I would do.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
OP complained about the surcharge. If OP wants to take the cab they have two options, pay the fee or not. Or OP can decide to walk off the property and hail a taxi.

I gave no indication as to what they should do nor what I would do.
If the OP wanted to "take the cab", how is not paying the 25bht fee a viable option?

The two options are
take the cab, pay the fee

walk off the property and hail a taxi
I think the idea of "pay the meter and refuse to give anything more" seems to be a rather odd piece of advice.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 4:38 pm
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In addition to Bumrungrad, it looks like GrabTaxi has relationships with Central World, Central Chitlom, Samitivej Hospital. There may be other spots as well?

This may be the only way these places can insure a steady supply of reliable, hassle-free taxis? Complaints, about taxis, at places like MBK are always making the news.

That said, places like Bumrungrad should consider covering this fee, but that's just my opinion. If you wish to avoid the fee, and depending on how mobile you are, and your destination, it may be easiest to walk out to Sukhumvit Soi 3 to hail a passing taxi?

The booking fee for a radio-dispatched taxi is 20 baht, and they may or may not supply an actual taxi in a reasonable time period.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 4:44 pm
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Maybe it does lead to better quality; I'd been planning to get an Uber anyway, but they were too far away. Think I was just feeling nickel and dime'd.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 10:19 pm
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I experienced a new (at least to me) scam at the airport the other day.

Apparently the numeric display on the front of the meter can be turned on or off independently of whether the meter is running.

Got into a taxi at BKK through the regular taxi system downstairs. Told the driver SGS, Sheraton Asok. Meter was [appeared to be] off. We started out, but before we even got to the exit gate, I said, "Meter, Meter." He said, "OK" and turned it (the display, as it turned out) on. It read .7 km.!! We still had not yet passed the exit gate for taxis; we were still on that straight stretch of pavement where the taxis park in the center while they wait for you. Uncharacteristically, I threw a little hissy fit; and he restarted the meter without complaint.

I assume that he turned the meter on when he entered the airport? Anyone else experience this one?

And you wonder why I prefer hotel cars or AOT to taxis? Yes, it's more expensive. Can be a lot. But I hate the game, and I don't have to be on alert constantly to see if the driver is going to scam me. IME these taxi scams are much less common going to BKK.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 10:56 pm
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Maybe some drivers start the meter when they leave the taxi lot, which is about that distance away? Taxis wait for hours in a lot on the airport grounds before being dispatched to the level 1 queue.

I haven't taken at taxi from SBIA/BKK is well over a year, not that I'd notice the meter reading in Km. You were "scammed", if that is the appropriate term, by at most 3 baht. The 35 baht flag-fall covers the first Km.


People should also be reminded that there is a traffic surcharge, so if you are stuck in traffic (or moving very slowly) and see the meter progressing please do not automatically assume you are being ripped off.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by transpac
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I haven't taken at taxi from SBIA/BKK is well over a year, not that I'd notice the meter reading in Km. You were "scammed", if that is the appropriate term, by at most 3 baht. The 35 baht flag-fall covers the first Km.
Plus stop time. Which could have added up in this particular instance.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
Like it or not, Grab Taxi has an exclusive contract with B'grad.
I am not familiar with the Bumrumgrad scene: So a non-grab taxi driver dropping off a fare cannot pick up a new fare?
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Old Feb 5, 2016, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by transpac
People should also be reminded that there is a traffic surcharge, so if you are stuck in traffic (or moving very slowly) and see the meter progressing please do not automatically assume you are being ripped off.
The meter has two indicators near the top. The one on the left is for stop time, and displays hh.mm. One of the well known scams is to "adjust" the meter so that this clock runs (and charges for the time) throughout the journey, stopped or not.


Originally Posted by dsquared37
I am not familiar with the Bumrumgrad scene: So a non-grab taxi driver dropping off a fare cannot pick up a new fare?
I'm not sure. I didn't get the impression that it's enforced. But if you go to the taxi stand in the hospital driveway, the hospital staff gets you a Grab Taxi. No other taxis seem to pull up there.

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Originally Posted by transpac
You were "scammed", if that is the appropriate term, by at most 3 baht. The 35 baht flag-fall covers the first Km.
I was thinking about this the other day. I'm not particularly price sensitive, and I tend to think people complaining about farang/local prices at national parks need to get a grip. But when you get in a taxi, you're getting in someone's car, and esp in Thai traffic, placing a lot of trust in them. When that relationship starts with their trying to cheat the rules, the amount really doesn't matter...

I would far rather (and generally do) pay for an AOT limo or an Uber at 5 times the price than get in to a cab where I knew the cabbie was playing at sillybuggers with the meter. Your mileage may vary(!)
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Old Feb 5, 2016, 3:32 am
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the amount really doesn't matter...

I guess we'll have to disagree on this point. I can't see getting into a potentially dangerous situation over 3 baht. Miscommunication, cultural differences, body-language, ego, anger, loud voices and soon the machete is out.

In thousands of taxi journeys here I think I've seen a rigged meter fewer than five times. I've made a little joke about it to the driver as I paid the metered fare, and let it go. Generally speaking I find it easier to keep cool here; that's served me well living here for ~ 12 years.

Most taxis are operated as 12 hour daily rentals, so it's not really "somebody's car".
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Old Feb 5, 2016, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
At your destination pay the meter and refuse to give anything more.
Originally Posted by Plato90s
How is that "problem solved" where you are suggesting the guy short-change the driver by 25bht?

You think that it's a good idea to refuse to pay a fee which is clearly printed because you just don't feel like it's something you're willing to pay?
Originally Posted by dsquared37
OP complained about the surcharge. If OP wants to take the cab they have two options, pay the fee or not. Or OP can decide to walk off the property and hail a taxi.

I gave no indication as to what they should do nor what I would do.
You most clearly did tell them what you thought they should do. See above.

Originally Posted by transpac
If you wish to avoid the fee, and depending on how mobile you are, and your destination, it may be easiest to walk out to Sukhumvit Soi 3 to hail a passing taxi?
You mean a stationary taxi, don't you? Every time I go there the taxis on Soi 3 are going exactly nowhere.
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Old Feb 5, 2016, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by transpac

In thousands of taxi journeys here I think I've seen a rigged meter fewer than five times. I've made a little joke about it to the driver as I paid the metered fare, and let it go. Generally speaking I find it easier to keep cool here; that's served me well living here for ~ 12 years.
I guess you are not taking the taxi from the hotels. As soon as they see tourists they start messing with the meters.
In my ~20 taxi rides in Bangkok, I've been ripped off twice. Both times for around 150 Bahts.
I usually give 100 Bahts tip (I'm still thinking that 100B is small tip for the ride from the airport), but when I got ripped off, I just paid the meter and not a penny more.
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
I am not familiar with the Bumrumgrad scene: So a non-grab taxi driver dropping off a fare cannot pick up a new fare?
No. In fact most of the taxis a not Grab Taxi. But if the taxi wants to pick someone up they have to join the queue and Grab Taxi manages the queue.

What I don't get is how Grab Taxi makes money out of this. They don't take a record of the taxi number that I have seen. So the taxi driver gets his 25 baht but how does Grab Taxi profit?

If Bumrungrad is paying them, why would they do that as opposed to letting their own staff manage it for less?
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Old Feb 5, 2016, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by bwiadca
I guess you are not taking the taxi from the hotels. As soon as they see tourists they start messing with the meters.
In my ~20 taxi rides in Bangkok, I've been ripped off twice. Both times for around 150 Bahts.
I usually give 100 Bahts tip (I'm still thinking that 100B is small tip for the ride from the airport), but when I got ripped off, I just paid the meter and not a penny more.
I've also taken thousands of taxi rides including thousands from a hotel. I have never experienced a hot meter. Not once.
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