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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 12:53 pm
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Trouble reading forum posts

This seems to happen a lot. I am going through the threads in the forums. At some point I click on a link of any type. i.e. read a post, go to next page, go back etc. I end up with either a blank page or part of the page and the browser just sits there. Eventually I will either hit the back for forward button to get out of the 'freeze' (if that is what it is).

Also, when this happens I cannot hit the refresh button to restore the page I was looking at, that takes me back to the forums home page.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by downandup
This seems to happen a lot. I am going through the threads in the forums. At some point I click on a link of any type. i.e. read a post, go to next page, go back etc. I end up with either a blank page or part of the page and the browser just sits there. Eventually I will either hit the back for forward button to get out of the 'freeze' (if that is what it is).

Also, when this happens I cannot hit the refresh button to restore the page I was looking at, that takes me back to the forums home page.
Sounds like a network/traffic problem. We haven't seen any increased traffic loads on our server, though. It could be a heavily hit router somewhere between us and you.

When the browser just sits there, does it always stop at the same point in the page?
 
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:42 pm
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When the browser just sits there, does it always stop at the same point in the page?
Yes, usually at a blank screen or with just the banner and tabs at the top.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 6:18 am
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Dan,

I had a similar problem around 8:15 pm eastern time last night.

I clicked on Myflyertalk and the next page loaded the header tabs... and just stopped....

I tried several time before giving up... figured the FT system was down.

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 10:32 am
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When this happens again, do us a favor and try hitting http://www.webflyer.com. That site resides in the same data center as FlyerTalk, and it may give us a better idea of what's causing these blockages.

If you know how to do a traceroute, running one on FlyerTalk the next time this happens, and posting the results here, would help us out as well.

Traceroute How-To:

(PC) http://www.hostroute.com/supportcentral/traceroute.html

(Mac) http://www.verio.com/support/view_ar...fm?doc_id=3693
 
Old Aug 5, 2004 | 5:16 pm
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This is what I got on the tracert:

1 12 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.215.156.1
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 24.62.0.161
3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 65.96.1.149
4 19 ms 9 ms 9 ms 12.125.33.33
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms gbr2-p60.cb1ma.ip.att.net [12.123.40.142]
6 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms tbr1-p013702.cb1ma.ip.att.net [12.122.5.61]
7 15 ms 18 ms 16 ms tbr2-cl1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.10.22]
8 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ggr2-p390.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.62]
9 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms so-0-2-0.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.244.160.
129]
10 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-2-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.4.149]

11 68 ms 70 ms 70 ms so-0-0-0.mp1.Denver1.Level3.net [64.159.4.226]
12 70 ms 70 ms 72 ms so-6-0.hsa1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.68.112.154]
13 70 ms 69 ms 69 ms 63.211.236.198
14 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms gige-10-00-s14.crrt02.den02.viawest.net [216.38.
221.29]
15 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms gige-09-00.crrt01.den05.viawest.net [216.87.89.5
8]
16 69 ms 70 ms 70 ms vi-008.aggm01.den05.viawest.net [64.78.230.205]

17 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms www.webflyer.com [64.78.185.89]

I had it freeze for a while when it got to this: 63.211.236.198, maybe because it could not get a dns name. When I tried it again the dns entry was unknown.Level3.net. So it is probably the hop from the network service to your ISP.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 7:16 pm
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When the browser just sits there, does it always stop at the same point in the page?

Yes, usually at a blank screen or with just the banner and tabs at the top.
Consider yourself lucky. This happens to me virtually every time I visit Flyertalk. I've kinda gotten used to it now! (FYI - hitting the back and forth arrows several times will usually take you where you want to go eventually, without dumping you back at the opening home page like refresh does.)

There's a long discussion about this problem in the thread "Huge delays due to tribalfusion" - and some suggestions on how to circumvent it.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 9:49 am
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Thanks for the traceroute.
Originally Posted by downandup
This is what I got on the tracert:

1 12 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.215.156.1
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 24.62.0.161
3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 65.96.1.149
4 19 ms 9 ms 9 ms 12.125.33.33
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms gbr2-p60.cb1ma.ip.att.net [12.123.40.142]
6 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms tbr1-p013702.cb1ma.ip.att.net [12.122.5.61]
7 15 ms 18 ms 16 ms tbr2-cl1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.10.22]
8 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ggr2-p390.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.62]
9 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms so-0-2-0.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.244.160.
129]
10 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-2-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.4.149]

11 68 ms 70 ms 70 ms so-0-0-0.mp1.Denver1.Level3.net [64.159.4.226]
12 70 ms 70 ms 72 ms so-6-0.hsa1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.68.112.154]
13 70 ms 69 ms 69 ms 63.211.236.198
14 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms gige-10-00-s14.crrt02.den02.viawest.net [216.38.
221.29]
15 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms gige-09-00.crrt01.den05.viawest.net [216.87.89.5
8]
16 69 ms 70 ms 70 ms vi-008.aggm01.den05.viawest.net [64.78.230.205]

17 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms www.webflyer.com [64.78.185.89]

I had it freeze for a while when it got to this: 63.211.236.198, maybe because it could not get a dns name. When I tried it again the dns entry was unknown.Level3.net. So it is probably the hop from the network service to your ISP.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by dan at WebFlyer
When this happens again, do us a favor and try hitting http://www.webflyer.com....
FlyerTalk is extremely slow for me this Saturday morning, while webflyer.com loads very quickly. I've tried access from various computers here at work (including a four-way application server) and different browsers. Even tried the "hosts" entry for a.tribalfusion.com... nothing seems to help.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 11:51 am
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Same thing here. About as slow as I have ever seen it! It's taking between 30 seconds and three minutes to load any page.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 12:04 pm
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Unhappy

It is super slow for me right now

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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 1:19 pm
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Now it seems to be about 80% of normal
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 9:08 am
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Once again, crawling this morning.

Is there something that happens in the morning??
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