Zorak

Are you referring to post #4 in this thread? Excited about flying Club World on the 787-9

That is not directly the fault of dark mode -- the poster has explicitly written that section of the post in dark grey text, whether wittingly or unwittingly -- I am guessing they copy and pasted goldwannabe's name from a context where it had the color associated with it in the web page code; when you paste such text it retains the color coding unless you right click => paste as plain text.



333333 is a dark grey, so everything inside that "color" tag appears in that color which is why it is hard to read in dark mode.

It's possible IB could do something to automatically treat all pasted text as "paste as plain text" which would help a lot (as I suspect many FTers may be unaware there is a dark mode and that there is an issue) but it wouldn't prevent a situation where someone explicitly chose black foreground text from the editor menu and typed in that color, for example.

fransknorge

Yes a plain text copy mode by default would work. Bottom line is that I use plenty of forums with dark mode and only one has a problem persistent after several months. So any argument that IB can do nothing does not pass the smell test

Zorak

While I would support that, playing devil's advocate, it's not quite as trivial as it sounds -- sometimes users may _want_ to preserve formatting when pasting text, e.g. if it contains italics, bold, bullet points, ... forcing paste-as-plain-text precludes those use cases. I'm personally ok with making that tradeoff but it's a consideration.

I am curious, do the other forums actively remove color tags if a user explicitly chooses one as the foreground color for a post? That seems pretty wrong too from a UX perspective (what if a user wants to highlight a particular section in red, for example).

Or do they only remove color tags within some "distance" of black or white in RGB color space? That seems non-trivial too.

fransknorge

Not sure how they handle it. They do have simpler interfaces though, and also do not seem to be so heavy reliant on HTML in their editor.

fransknorge

This post is a good example where I have a hard time that it should still happen 3 months after the roll out of the feature. The color changes mid word, there is no way this is a conscious choice by the OP (because there are plenty of posts like this all around the forum by lots of different users), there is no clear change of fonts or tag uses (no quote, no bold, no username references). So IB staff, could we please get some sort of status and estimate to make Dark mode a proper usable feature ?

IBJoel

You'd be surprised by user behaviors, especially RE: sloppy cut/paste. But nonetheless I've asked an automotive forum if they still have issues with this. This particular auto site was the first to roll out dark mode in the company, so they may have some solid insight.

cerps343

Is there a way to switch back to light mode? Once I switched to Dark Mode I no longer see a button I can press to switch back.

SamirD

Thank you for sharing your experience and solutions. Good to know the native windows these for accessibility does a good job across the board. I don't need any help looking at stuff right now, but always nice to know what works and works well.

Unfortunately, this is more an OS thing than it is a vb thing as the posting box is just accepting what is being pasted vs parsing it. Disabling all bbcode across the entire forum might solve that issue, but will break more stuff than it fixes for sure.

Definitely a great idea as some of them are dark by default too so they'll have more experience with dealing with pasted data with formatting. Thank you for staying active in this thread--I know visiting a thread just to get pounded on can't be a fun job.

I actually can't find a button to switch to dark mode. I don't know if this will fix it, but maybe using the style chooser to change the theme will work. Another thing that might work better is to change an option in your user control panel for 'classic mode homepage' and see if that takes it out of dark mode as that's what I'm using and I don't even see the option for dark mode.

Zorak

It's under the "hamburger" menu (the three horizontal lines), same place as where one turns on dark mode.

In mobile skin the link to switch is at the bottom of the menu. In desktop it's in the lower right.

SamirD

Ah, I've never used that before--yep right there. Thank you!

fransknorge

New hotel reviews are black on black .....

GW McLintock

Am I correct in assuming you mean the text is matching the background color? I have complained heavily about this upthread and they have decided not to pursue it further at the time. So many templates for hotel reviews, rental car and hotel upgrade threads, etc. have text that is not automatic (text is black or gray) so either you have to highlight everything, change back to light mode, or just wallow in sadness for being unable to read it.

A potential (but high-workload) solution would be to perform a sitewide audit for threads that use a template, and update those templates to ensure text color is set to automatic. I may do this on my own for the forums I frequent. It continues to be quite annoying and detracts significantly from the user experience.

-J.