ARCHIVE: Report spam issues here (older posts)
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Haven't noticed it before. Guess the bots are getting smarter. I'm starting to see a lot of it, where a user will have a dozen plus posts, all in the same forum with typically the same crap.
Sure, you can whack a mole after the fact, but are you trying to prevent it in the first place?
Sure, you can whack a mole after the fact, but are you trying to prevent it in the first place?
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Spammers and BB operators play a constant cat and mouse game. There are plenty of traps in place today but dialling them to high blocks posts of genuine newbies too @:-)
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As my erstwhile colleague says, this is a continual war; spammers are always seeking to exploit breaches, etc. There is actually a significant spam protocol on FlyerTalk; much of the spam you actually never see because of it. I'm loath to discuss too much of it, because spammers do try to find shortcuts all the time.
1) Considerable spam gets intercepted and trapped by automated scripts and filters.
2) Quite a bit of spam that gets through is held in a moderation queue so moderators are notified and must approve (or otherwise handle) the post(s) in question before you get to see it.
3) The tip of the iceberg is what you see, and it's easily disposed of by using the
"Alert a moderator to this post" function (or otherwise contacting Admin or moderators).
So, yes, IB is working (quite well) to control and prevent spam.
1) Considerable spam gets intercepted and trapped by automated scripts and filters.
2) Quite a bit of spam that gets through is held in a moderation queue so moderators are notified and must approve (or otherwise handle) the post(s) in question before you get to see it.
3) The tip of the iceberg is what you see, and it's easily disposed of by using the
"Alert a moderator to this post" function (or otherwise contacting Admin or moderators). So, yes, IB is working (quite well) to control and prevent spam.
Last edited by JDiver; Dec 16, 2015 at 12:34 pm
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It seems much worse over the last week. I've given up even reporting them, as there are so many.
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As I say, I am reluctant to discuss these publicly lest I point out the fuel supply to the arsonist, but IB is continually seeking improved ways of handling spam.
(As one of four Senior Moderators: it is our job to respond to every forum that does not have an appointed moderator; we are very much concerned with this issue and how effective IB is directly affects our time and efforts.)
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I don't inhabit any forums in particular. I generally look for new posts, and check out the interesting ones.
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Although you may be seeing the increase, I assure you that what others have said is true: much of what we get hit with disappears from the site in an instant, long before you ever have a chance to lay eyes on it, thanks to the many alerts we receive from members, and the rapid responses of multiple mods operating across all time zones.
It's an exercise in frustration, but we are not just accepting it.
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aBroadAbroad is aboard
with the issue. Information Desk, as it is the first open forum, gets hit hard.
Though once upon a time (it seems so log ago!) it was easy for spam suppression software to autoflag new posts with "vi@gr@" in the title or pornspam, it's gotten substantially trickier - and we are getting new varieties of spam as well, offering spells, fortune telling, mutu (well, OK, not the last, but nearly!)
with the issue. Information Desk, as it is the first open forum, gets hit hard.Though once upon a time (it seems so log ago!) it was easy for spam suppression software to autoflag new posts with "vi@gr@" in the title or pornspam, it's gotten substantially trickier - and we are getting new varieties of spam as well, offering spells, fortune telling, mutu (well, OK, not the last, but nearly!)
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Just got hit again-this time the Info Desk
And yes, I reported it
And yes, I reported it
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when forums dont have moderators, requires senior moderator / admin to remove
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The three Info Desk mods are presently based in similar time zones. Thankfully, our fellow mods in offset time zones have been closely monitoring the forum while we are offline, so at the very least, attack-spammers are being banned within just a few posts. Fortunately, I'm relocating back to Asia in a few weeks, so regular moderation of the Info Desk should soon be significantly improved.
Meanwhile, admins and mods are working together to identify and implement more effective measure to prevent these large-scale attacks sitewide. It's complicated, and takes time, so please be patient with us!
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Many spammers post a link to an image.
Anyone know the reason for this? Is it to track pageviews (not sure why this would be interesting), or are they trying to spread some sort of corrupted file with malware?
Anyone know the reason for this? Is it to track pageviews (not sure why this would be interesting), or are they trying to spread some sort of corrupted file with malware?
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Could be many things, its primarily to drive link traffic to a server/domain, which gives that domain some SEO credit or established it as a legit server in the eyes of various anti-spam services.
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It is almost always a link to the same website (lifeh...) preceded by a section of text from a previous poster in the thread. The spammer always makes 6 posts.
Should be simple to flag/block links to that website?
No idea what the purpose of the spam is though..




