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OverThereTooMuch Jun 30, 2014 10:25 pm

ARCHIVE: Report spam issues here (older posts)
 
Haven't noticed it before. Guess the bots are getting smarter. I'm starting to see a lot of it, where a user will have a dozen plus posts, all in the same forum with typically the same crap.

Sure, you can whack a mole after the fact, but are you trying to prevent it in the first place?

oliver2002 Jul 1, 2014 6:22 am

Spammers and BB operators play a constant cat and mouse game. There are plenty of traps in place today but dialling them to high blocks posts of genuine newbies too @:-)

JDiver Jul 1, 2014 10:04 am

As my erstwhile colleague says, this is a continual war; spammers are always seeking to exploit breaches, etc. There is actually a significant spam protocol on FlyerTalk; much of the spam you actually never see because of it. I'm loath to discuss too much of it, because spammers do try to find shortcuts all the time.

1) Considerable spam gets intercepted and trapped by automated scripts and filters.

2) Quite a bit of spam that gets through is held in a moderation queue so moderators are notified and must approve (or otherwise handle) the post(s) in question before you get to see it.

3) The tip of the iceberg is what you see, and it's easily disposed of by using the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/image...ons/report.gif "Alert a moderator to this post" function (or otherwise contacting Admin or moderators).

So, yes, IB is working (quite well) to control and prevent spam.

Jaimito Cartero Jul 1, 2014 10:06 am

It seems much worse over the last week. I've given up even reporting them, as there are so many.

JDiver Jul 1, 2014 10:12 am


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 23125704)
It seems much worse over the last week. I've given up even reporting them, as there are so many.

To some extent, how much you may see will depend on which forum you "inhabit". The top forum in our position will attract more spam, so the Information Desk is currently the target.

As I say, I am reluctant to discuss these publicly lest I point out the fuel supply to the arsonist, but IB is continually seeking improved ways of handling spam.

(As one of four Senior Moderators: it is our job to respond to every forum that does not have an appointed moderator; we are very much concerned with this issue and how effective IB is directly affects our time and efforts.)

Jaimito Cartero Jul 1, 2014 11:53 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 23125735)
To some extent, how much you may see will depend on which forum you "inhabit". The top forum in our position will attract more spam, so the Information Desk is currently the target.

I don't inhabit any forums in particular. I generally look for new posts, and check out the interesting ones.

aBroadAbroad Jul 4, 2014 5:28 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 23125704)
It seems much worse over the last week. I've given up even reporting them, as there are so many.

It actually has been much worse over the past few weeks. As my colleagues have pointed out, we are working hard to address the recent attacks, but achieving a good balance between effective prevention and excessive blocking of legit posts is difficult, at best, and some attacks are more challenging to combat than others.

Although you may be seeing the increase, I assure you that what others have said is true: much of what we get hit with disappears from the site in an instant, long before you ever have a chance to lay eyes on it, thanks to the many alerts we receive from members, and the rapid responses of multiple mods operating across all time zones.

It's an exercise in frustration, but we are not just accepting it.

JDiver Jul 5, 2014 9:44 pm

aBroadAbroad is aboard ;) with the issue. Information Desk, as it is the first open forum, gets hit hard.

Though once upon a time (it seems so log ago!) it was easy for spam suppression software to autoflag new posts with "vi@gr@" in the title or pornspam, it's gotten substantially trickier - and we are getting new varieties of spam as well, offering spells, fortune telling, mutu (well, OK, not the last, but nearly!)

goalie Jul 8, 2014 11:20 pm

Just got hit again-this time the Info Desk

And yes, I reported it

Kagehitokiri Jul 9, 2014 12:14 am

when forums dont have moderators, requires senior moderator / admin to remove

Mwenenzi Jul 9, 2014 4:38 am


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 23166954)
when forums dont have moderators, requires senior moderator / admin to remove

But any moderator can suspend/ban the user
The Indian spammer on the info forum usally posts about this time :td:
1 senior moderator often waits with the gloves on :)

aBroadAbroad Jul 9, 2014 9:42 am


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 23166954)
when forums dont have moderators, requires senior moderator / admin to remove

Yes, but if a member uses the alert button in those forums, all of the senior mods will receive that notification. So, in forums without a resident mod, using the alert feature is even more important.


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 23167495)
But any moderator can suspend/ban the user...

The three Info Desk mods are presently based in similar time zones. Thankfully, our fellow mods in offset time zones have been closely monitoring the forum while we are offline, so at the very least, attack-spammers are being banned within just a few posts. Fortunately, I'm relocating back to Asia in a few weeks, so regular moderation of the Info Desk should soon be significantly improved.

Meanwhile, admins and mods are working together to identify and implement more effective measure to prevent these large-scale attacks sitewide. It's complicated, and takes time, so please be patient with us!

OverThereTooMuch Jul 26, 2014 10:50 pm

Many spammers post a link to an image.

Anyone know the reason for this? Is it to track pageviews (not sure why this would be interesting), or are they trying to spread some sort of corrupted file with malware?

oliver2002 Jul 29, 2014 2:26 am

Could be many things, its primarily to drive link traffic to a server/domain, which gives that domain some SEO credit or established it as a legit server in the eyes of various anti-spam services.

nux Sep 25, 2014 3:31 am


Originally Posted by OverThereTooMuch (Post 23263364)
Many spammers post a link to an image.

Anyone know the reason for this? Is it to track pageviews (not sure why this would be interesting), or are they trying to spread some sort of corrupted file with malware?

This is still happening quite frequently, and has been for the past few months. I notice it quite easily as it comes up as a large broken image due to a restrictive proxy I have.

It is almost always a link to the same website (lifeh...) preceded by a section of text from a previous poster in the thread. The spammer always makes 6 posts.

Should be simple to flag/block links to that website?

No idea what the purpose of the spam is though..


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