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Old Mar 19, 2001 | 4:28 pm
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Live Chat won't load

I tried to access Live Chat both Sunday Night and just now.

After entering my username and password, the system starts to load the Java Applet, then just hangs. I can exit IE, so it is not causing a system crash, I just never get to the Chat Window.

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Old Mar 20, 2001 | 1:00 am
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Just happened to me also. Logged on to the chat, and it loaded as far as the outline of the chatbox, but no details appeared, then it locked up completely. Had to log off default and restart as I could not exit the page from that point. Netscape 4.7

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Old Mar 20, 2001 | 6:09 am
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I was finally able to get in on the night of the 19th, but other users had an awful time.

One user got booted at least 12 times.

Are the problems in chat related to the slowness problems the boards have been having?

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Old Mar 24, 2001 | 7:59 pm
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Chat hasn't been working for me since maybe Thursday.
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 4:36 pm
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Worked fine for me, plus several others who were on at the time, last night (Sunday, March 25th). If there were problems, maybe they're over.
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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 4:09 pm
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I've still got problems, and I'm sure they're specific to my machine, though I have no idea why. I'm able to get into chat at home, but not on my work computer. It doesn't matter if it's Netscape or IE.

I sign in to chat, java starts up, then the applet loads, then it says "transferring data from host3.digichat.com" -- and that's it. It continues to say that indefinitely, but the chat window never pops up on the screen.

Anyone have any ideas?
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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 8:49 pm
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I am guessing that it may be a firewall issue. I have had similar problems with other programs utilizing ports that were closed by the firewall. When that happens, I get the type of error you are describing.

But then, it could be something totally different.
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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 12:45 pm
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Michael's getting in touch with the company that provides the technology to try and find a reason and solution for this.

Personally, I've logged into the chat on Macs (IE4.5, IE4 and NN4.7) and on PCs (IE5.5, NN4.7) and can usually get in, although there have been times that I've had to wait up to a minute until the Java kicks in.

We would definitely love to move to a more stable solution that offers some of the niceties that the current one has (custom icons, multiple rooms, private messaging). If anyone knows of a solution that:

1. Won't break the bank (always an important factor)
2. Is easy for our audience to jump into and enjoy.
3. Is customizable as far as look and feel
4. Is cross-browser/platform (at least to PCs and Macs on 4.+ version browsers)
5. Won't overtask our servers (cgi-driven chats tend to)

We're always open for suggestions...

I apologize for the difficulties some of you have experienced using FT Live!, and appreciate the emails so that we know if there's a problem.

Water Polo Ref, we did have proxy problems before, but our vendor gave us a tunneling solution that seemed to take care of most proxies. But who knows, maybe it wasn't a complete fix...

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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 4:00 pm
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What about IRC?

Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
If anyone knows of a solution that:

1. Won't break the bank (always an important factor)
the IRC server is free, it can run on your exisiting UNIX/Linux servers.
2. Is easy for our audience to jump into and enjoy.
GUI based clients make chatting easy, and you could put a java client on your website
3. Is customizable as far as look and feel
Unfortunatly, this is the downfall of IRC, its not designed as a "pretty" protocol, its more functional
4. Is cross-browser/platform (at least to PCs and Macs on 4.+ version browsers)
Yup. Mac, Windows, Linux, BSD, Amiga, etc etc
5. Won't overtask our servers (cgi-driven chats tend to)
its not resource intensive on the server
We're always open for suggestions...
Whatever you switch to, make sure it will support Linux/UNIX as well. I love the Live Chat, it my favorite part of FT.


edit for UBB-oops


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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 4:37 pm
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Whoops, I whipped that last one out so fast that I forgot a few more requirements:

6. Stores log files/transcripts
7. Membership model. We want to have the option to make the chat "public" (as we do for the monthly events) or "private", where you have to be a registered FlyerTalker to participate.


Mark, thanks for the support and suggestion...
 
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 11:11 pm
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I'm getting CameraGuy's and Blackjack-21's symptoms (on a Mac with System 8.1) tonight. Tried both Netscape 4.7x and IE 5.0x, a few times each. No firewall, regular dial-up connection. It's worked fine every time until now.

More specifics, in case they help:

Netscape loads the 147K DigiChat applet (30+ seconds), shows the Chat screen with a grayed-out Connect button but no chat window, and crashes with a Type 3 error (but does not hang or bring down the system).

IE goes to the new page, says "Applet error ... closing" after a second or two, never displays the grayed-out Connect button, and leaves the new page in that state. The rest of its behavior, including other open pages, continues normally. It doesn't hang or crash.

In case it helps you folks debug this, the Java error log from one IE try follows. (I hope line size issues don't mess it up.)

4/4/2001 @ 1:29:2
java.lang.ClassFormatError
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java )
at apple.jam.JMAppletClassLoader.loadClass(JAMAppletC lassLoader.java)
at apple.jam.JMAppletClassLoader.findClass(JAMAppletC lassLoader.java)
at apple.jam.JMAppletClassLoader.loadClass(JAMAppletC lassLoader.java)
at apple.jam.JMAppletClassLoader.loadClass(JAMAppletC lassLoader.java)
at apple.jam.JMAppletViewer.doLoadCode(JAMAppletViewe r.java)
at apple.jam.JMAppletViewer.setState(JAMAppletViewer. java)
at apple.jam.JMViewerEvent.post(JAMAppletViewer.java)
at apple.jam.JMAWTContext.run(JAMSessionFrameHolder.j ava)
Class Loader Exception: fileioexception (digi.digichat.DigiChatApplet)
AWTContext exception: java.lang.NullPointerException
AWTContext exception: java.lang.NullPointerException
AWTContext exception: java.lang.NullPointerException


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Old Apr 4, 2001 | 4:02 pm
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Efrem,

Thanks for the error log and feedback; we'll send this on to DigiChat and see what they come up with.

In the meantime, do you have the latest Java machine installed on your system (2.2.4)? If not, and you have the time, go to http://asu.info.apple.com and then click the "Go To - MRJ 2.2.4" link to download the lastest JVM.

 
Old Apr 4, 2001 | 6:26 pm
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Dan, I'm having problems the last 2 nights as well. I had the Java Console log with full debugging, and I just emailed it to you. I hope it helps diagnose the problem.

running Mozilla 0.81 (Build ID 2001031611) under Linux 2.2.14, JRE 1.3.0_01
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Old Apr 5, 2001 | 8:48 am
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I just contacted our chat vendor (via _their_ chat...) and conveyed our problems. They're going to move us over to another chat server, so we'll see if this fixes the connectivity problems...

They're good with person-to-person support, so I can't knock them there. Anyway, hang tight folks and we'll see about a better chat... Got your error log, Mark; thanks
 
Old Apr 5, 2001 | 5:55 pm
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svpii, danville 1K, and I have been able to get in this afternoon if we let the chat applet load, then when it looks like it is just sitting there trying to connect, minimise the window. After 5 or 10 minutes, the chat window loads and we are able to get in. Looks like its waiting for something to timeout.
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