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Q. What is a Wikipost?

A Wikipost contains content that appears at the top of a thread, usually used to summarize important information in multi-page threads

"This is a community-maintained wikipost containing the most important information from this thread. You may start or edit a Wikipost once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts." (Written at the top of every Wikipost.)

(the above header went away at some point, and 90/90 is now known to incorrect -- per post 298+ the same permission group governs access to Coupon Connection and wiki editing, thus the requirement is 180/180)


Q. Why are Wikiposts here? What is their purpose?

Threads that have high interest can grow very quickly, making it tiresome to sort through sometimes hundreds of posts to find information. A Wikipost is designed to contain a summary of relevant information, and may contain links to especially relevant posts, related threads and off-site resources. Any member with "180/180" can update obsolete information or update Wikipost information, and of course there's plenty of space to discuss or ask about more specific details.


Q. What display modes are offered for Wikiposts?

There are three modes of wiki post display: (c/o IBobi)
1. "Summary view" (default) -- this shows the top of the wikipost only.

2. Full display (when you click "Click here to display full Wiki") -- this shows the whole Wikipost.

3. Hidden (when you click the "-" sign at the top right) -- reduces this and ALL Wikiposts on FT to a narrow blue bar that says "Wikipost", until you click the "+" on one of them again, which will return them to default view.

(see more below)
Q. Can I link to a Wikipost?

Yes. Click on Wiki Link on the upper right of the wiki and the Wikipost will display ax a single post. You can copy the link and paste it elsewhere. Click "back" in your browser to return to the page you were on.


Q. Why are so many threads with Wikiposts concentrated on the front pages of some fora? cx

The most popular / used threads are often those with complicated content - frequent flyer or guest program changes, securing awards, etc. These are the threads most likely to have Wikiposts summarizing key points.


Q. How / why did Wikiposts come about on FT?

Wikiposts came about after requests from members to Internet Brands and a lot of forethought, followed by Beta testing. They are considered a valuable asset to FlyerTalk, and a viable and "closer" alternative to maintaining an off site, separate wiki.


Q. What do "wiki" and "Wikipost" mean?

The word "wiki" (wee-kee) is Hawaiian Polynisian for "fast" or "quick". Here, a Wikipost offers a quick look at the topic covered by a thread.


Q. Can I see a listing of Wikiposts?

Yes. Up in the dark blue navigation bar, a little below the FlyerTalk logo, it says "Flyertalk [sic, should be a capital T] Wiki." Click that and then "Show all Wiki [sic, should be plural]" from the sub-menu.

(Thanks to jackal)


Q. What do I do if I just don't want to read the Wikiposts?

Just continue browsing normally. Only minimized Wikiposts (a few lines) will be revealed until you click on / touch the blue "Click here to display Full Wiki" line. The full Wikipost will only be displayed if you click the link to read it. Ignore the Wikipost if you don't want to read the information therein.


Q. What do I do if I feel there are too darn many Wikiposts?

You can go to the "Wikipost" blue menu bar at the top of a thread page and click on the "-" sign at the right end of the bar, which will minimize all wikis; you never have to see a Wikipost again. That information never has to intrude on your reading of FlyerTalk. And, of course you can turn wiki posts "on" by clicking the "+" in the same menu bar when you wish.)

Alternatively, you can go to your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see


Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned on to eliminate seeing wiki posts, off to reveal them once more.
Q. What are the alternatives to wikiposts in a large forum?


1) Multiple (dozens or even more) threads with members having to search them all for answers, or start a new one out of frustration, assuring information fragmentation and dispersion.

2) Mega threads with hundreds of posts to sort through for answers.

Thanks to wetrat0
Q. I can't open and edit a particular Wikipost! Why?

A few wiki posts may be locked by moderators to prevent making changes; these preferably should be clearly marked with an explanation.


Q. I can't even see Wikiposts! Why?

If you are using the mobile skin, you can not see Wikiposts at this time.

If otherwise and you can not see the wiki posts:

Assuming you are signed in, have been on FT 180 or more days and have made 180 or more posts, and have access to the Coupon Connection forum:

In your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see

Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned off.

NOTE: it was previously believed that the threshold for wiki editing was 90/90, and it may have been so at one point, but per post 298+ the current status is that the same permission group governs access to Coupon Connection and wiki editing, thus the requirement is 180/180



Q. How do I open and start a wikipost myself?

To create a wiki, go to the Thread Tools menu on the right of the thread menu bar, click / touch Create a Wikipost


Q. I've got "180/180"; how do I edit a wikipost?

To edit a wiki, expand by clicking / touching the "Click here to display full wiki" message, then see the Edit button in the lower right of the wiki.


Q. What formatting can I use to make a wikipost more "eye-tractive" and readable?

Wikis accepts a lot of common BBCode formatting, some of which is shown below - but not all.

Bold and colors work! strikeouts work, as does highlighting.

Sizes work as well, from larger than this to this.

However, names of threads like WikiPost problems are not being normalized. (URL links to FlyerTalk in posts will render such: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion.

In Wikiposts, they will render as full URL: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion (consolidated) look at the above URL to see how you can adjust that.

See Calchas' post #122 to read about the wiki history rendering.


Q. Can I embed or add illustrations or photos in Wikiposts?

Links to photographs and graphic images can be embedded in wikiposts; framed video links can not be, nor can images be attached as in posts.

Link to an extensive thread about embedding images in the Travel Photography forum.

Link to thread in Technical Support and Feedback forum on embedding images.

Q. Can I create "chapters" within in Wikiposts with internal links and anchor points?[

Yes; as of September 2016, you can. Here are the basics:

Using the tag "wikifrom" you can write a text, and the name of the anchor you want to point to like this:

Visit Chapter 1
Visit Chapter 2

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:


Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.


Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.


(Here is how it looks without the closing bracket)

[wikifrom=chapter1]Visit Chapter 1[/wikifrom
[wikifrom=chapter2]Visit Chapter 2[/wikifrom

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:

[wikito]chapter1[/wikito
Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.

[wikito]chapter2[/wikito
Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.

See post number 205, by IBtyen.
The WIKI SANDBOX:







Revised 7 Jan 2017 - JDiver
  • Testing out a bug
  • Every time the wiki is edited a blank bullet point gets added to this list.
  • testing
Will a new bullet appear if list is not at the bottom?
No

If you can't find the Edit button in a wikipost, try the following:
  1. Click the link near the end that reads, "Last edited by"
  2. In your browser address bar, replace do=viewhistory with do=edit
  3. You'll see the normal edit page
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Old May 16, 2014 | 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by IBobi
Tech is implementing a fix.
That's great - thanks!
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Will choosing "Hide all wikis" fix it?
In the meantime, to answer my own question, the answer is "yes". If you set your options to "Hide all wikis", then the page positions itself at the correct place.

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Old May 16, 2014 | 9:49 pm
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i continue to be impressed with how wikis are being handled, speaking as someone who doesnt use them much ^
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Old May 17, 2014 | 7:36 pm
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Problems with auto-collapsing wikiposts

Recently I have noticed that Wikiposts are starting out collapsed which is fine, but when I click on a link in an email notification, it causes the action of jumping to a specific post to go haywire. It appears that what happens is that the browser jumps to the right post and at that point the Wikipost is fully expanded. When the Wikipost contracts, the whole page moves in the browser making it so that I am no longer looking at the post referenced in the email.

Clicking on the "Click here to display Full Wiki" link only expands the Wiki for that session, so that is not a permanent solution. Clicking on the email link again brings up the thread with the Wiki shrunken and the behavior to reoccur.

The only solutions I have found are to either collapse the wikiposts using the "-" button or setting my preferences to never show wikiposts, neither of which I want to do.

Using Chrome on Win 7. Have not tried other browsers.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 4:46 pm
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After this issue was kindly raised by HikerT in this post above, this was said:-
Originally Posted by IBobi
Tech is implementing a fix.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 8:42 pm
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How long is it going to take to implement a fix? Fix the damn thing or disable the new feature until it's fixed. Somewhat inexcusable to implement a new feature without any usability testing and break critical bbs functionality in the process.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 2:07 pm
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Please try now.
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The issue seems to be fixed now. Thank you.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 11:21 pm
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WIKI tags don't appear in searches

When I search (in the "show threads" mode) or even ask to see the list of new posts (which looks like it's considered to be the result of a search), threads with wikis don't have the blue WIKI tag indicated even though the WIKI blue tag does appear associated with the same thread in the list of threads in a forum.

Is this the way the WIKI tag is supposed to work on FT?

I don't think this is the way it should work because if one is searching for some topic, it could save time and be very useful to know where the wikis are, so as to be able to go immediately to those threads.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 12:01 pm
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Let me inquire with tech.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 1:55 pm
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The answer from tech us that they cannot implement a change at this time, but in a future iteration of wikiposts they may be able to change it.

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Old May 27, 2014 | 2:11 pm
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Exclamation PRINT WIKI button added

We have now added a "Print Wiki" button to the right of the Edit button at the bottom of all wikis.

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Old May 28, 2014 | 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by IBobi
We have now added a "Print Wiki" button to the right of the Edit button at the bottom of all wikis.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Cool - thanks!
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Old May 29, 2014 | 11:26 am
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Please try now.
Thanks, IBobi - all seems to work very well now.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 1:10 pm
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One thing that could still use some work is links. Would be nice if one didn't have to expand the wiki to be able to click on links shown at the top of the wiki. This might be confusing to some users.
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 11:02 pm
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"Click here to display Full Wiki" overlaps last line of wiki shown at top of thread

If you open a thread with a wiki, the blue text offering the option to see the entire wiki appears in the center of the last line of text of the wiki that shows automatically. AFAIK this is happening in all fora.
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