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Q. What is a Wikipost?

A Wikipost contains content that appears at the top of a thread, usually used to summarize important information in multi-page threads: "This is a community-maintained wikipost containing the most important information from this thread. You may start or edit a Wikipost once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts." (Written at the top of every Wikipost.)


Q. Why are Wikiposts here? What is their purpose?

Threads that have high interest can grow very quickly, making it tiresome to sort through sometimes hundreds of posts to find information. A Wikipost is designed to contain a summary of relevant information, and may contain links to especially relevant posts, related threads and off-site resources. Any member with "90/90" can update obsolete information or update Wikipost information, and of course there's plenty of space to discuss or ask about more specific details.


Q. What display modes are offered for Wikiposts?

There are three modes of wiki post display: (c/o IBobi)
1. "Summary view" (default) -- this shows the top of the wikipost only.

2. Full display (when you click "Click here to display full Wiki") -- this shows the whole Wikipost.

3. Hidden (when you click the "-" sign at the top right) -- reduces this and ALL Wikiposts on FT to a narrow blue bar that says "Wikipost", until you click the "+" on one of them again, which will return them to default view.

(see more below)
Q. Can I link to a Wikipost?

Yes. Click on Wiki Link on the upper right of the wiki and the Wikipost will display ax a single post. You can copy the link and paste it elsewhere. Click "back" in your browser to return to the page you were on.


Q. Why are so many threads with Wikiposts concentrated on the front pages of some fora? cx

The most popular / used threads are often those with complicated content - frequent flyer or guest program changes, securing awards, etc. These are the threads most likely to have Wikiposts summarizing key points.


Q. How / why did Wikiposts come about on FT?

Wikiposts came about after requests from members to Internet Brands and a lot of forethought, followed by Beta testing. They are considered a valuable asset to FlyerTalk, and a viable and "closer" alternative to maintaining an off site, separate wiki.


Q. What do "wiki" and "Wikipost" mean?

The word "wiki" (wee-kee) is Hawaiian Polynisian for "fast" or "quick". Here, a Wikipost offers a quick look at the topic covered by a thread.


Q. Can I see a listing of Wikiposts?

Yes. Up in the dark blue navigation bar, a little below the FlyerTalk logo, it says "Flyertalk [sic, should be a capital T] Wiki." Click that and then "Show all Wiki [sic, should be plural]" from the sub-menu.

(Thanks to jackal)


Q. What do I do if I just don't want to read the Wikiposts?

Just continue browsing normally. Only minimized Wikiposts (a few lines) will be revealed until you click on / touch the blue "Click here to display Full Wiki" line. The full Wikipost will only be displayed if you click the link to read it. Ignore the Wikipost if you don't want to read the information therein.


Q. What do I do if I feel there are too darn many Wikiposts?

You can go to the "Wikipost" blue menu bar at the top of a thread page and click on the "-" sign at the right end of the bar, which will minimize all wikis; you never have to see a Wikipost again. That information never has to intrude on your reading of FlyerTalk. And, of course you can turn wiki posts "on" by clicking the "+" in the same menu bar when you wish.)

Alternatively, you can go to your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see


Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned on to eliminate seeing wiki posts, off to reveal them once more.
Q. What are the alternatives to wikiposts in a large forum?


1) Multiple (dozens or even more) threads with members having to search them all for answers, or start a new one out of frustration, assuring information fragmentation and dispersion.

2) Mega threads with hundreds of posts to sort through for answers.

Thanks to wetrat0
Q. I can't open and edit a particular Wikipost! Why?

A few wiki posts may be locked by moderators to prevent making changes; these preferably should be clearly marked with an explanation.


Q. I can't even see Wikiposts! Why?

If you are using the mobile skin, you can not see Wikiposts at this time.

If otherwise and you can not see the wiki posts:

Assuming you are signed in, have been on FT 90 or more days and have made 90 or more posts:

In your FT Profile, look at Your Control Panel, Edit Options. Toward the bottom of the page you'll see

Wikipost Hide All

Hide all Wiki Posts in Threads
Hide all wikiposts
Be sure that option is turned off.


Q. How do I open and start a wikipost myself?

To create a wiki, go to the Thread Tools menu on the right of the thread menu bar, click / touch Create a Wikipost


Q. I've got "90/90"; how do I edit a wikipost?

To edit a wiki, expand by clicking / touching the "Click here to display full wiki" message, then see the Edit button in the lower right of the wiki.


Q. What formatting can I use to make a wikipost more "eye-tractive" and readable?

Wikis accepts a lot of common BBCode formatting, some of which is shown below - but not all.

Bold and colors work! strikeouts work, as does highlighting.

Sizes work as well, from larger than this to this.

However, names of threads like WikiPost problems are not being normalized. (URL links to FlyerTalk in posts will render such: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion.

In Wikiposts, they will render as full URL: "Wikipost" / wiki post questions, issues, discussion (consolidated) look at the above URL to see how you can adjust that.

See Calchas' post #122 to read about the wiki history rendering.


Q. Can I embed or add illustrations or photos in Wikiposts?

Links to photographs and graphic images can be embedded in wikiposts; framed video links can not be, nor can images be attached as in posts.

Link to an extensive thread about embedding images in the Travel Photography forum.

Link to thread in Technical Support and Feedback forum on embedding images.

Q. Can I create "chapters" within in Wikiposts with internal links and anchor points?[

Yes; as of September 2016, you can. Here are the basics:

Using the tag "wikifrom" you can write a text, and the name of the anchor you want to point to like this:

Visit Chapter 1
Visit Chapter 2

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:


Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.


Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.


(Here is how it looks without the closing bracket)

[wikifrom=chapter1]Visit Chapter 1[/wikifrom
[wikifrom=chapter2]Visit Chapter 2[/wikifrom

Then you can use the tag "wikito" to allow easy wikipost navigation:

[wikito]chapter1[/wikito
Chapter 1 - Monday
Some text here.

[wikito]chapter2[/wikito
Chapter 2 - Tuesday
Some more text here.

See post number 205, by IBtyen.
The WIKI SANDBOX:







Revised 7 Jan 2017 - JDiver
  • Testing out a bug
  • Every time the wiki is edited a blank bullet point gets added to this list.
  • testing
Will a new bullet appear if list is not at the bottom?
No
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Old Apr 22, 2014, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by steve053
When I click 'Flyertalk Wiki' and select 'Show all Wiki' I'm redirected to the wiki 'Recent Changes' page with this link:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/recentforumwikiposts.php

Using IE 8 and IE 11, both give same results. I was able to view all wiki's a few days ago.
The two pages look very similar.
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Old Apr 22, 2014, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by IBobi
The two pages look very similar.
Then you might as well get rid of the "Show all wiki" menu item, because it doesn't, you know, show all the wikis.
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Old Apr 22, 2014, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
Then you might as well get rid of the "Show all wiki" menu item, because it doesn't, you know, show all the wikis.
Which are missing?
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Old Apr 22, 2014, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
Then you might as well get rid of the "Show all wiki" menu item, because it doesn't, you know, show all the wikis.
Originally Posted by IBobi
Which are missing?
One example: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...mes-rules.html

Another: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...solidated.html

Another: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...b-visa-mc.html

And another: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...sary-wiki.html
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Old Apr 22, 2014, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
Then you might as well get rid of the "Show all wiki" menu item, because it doesn't, you know, show all the wikis.


Could this have anything to do with another never-going-away issue with search/index problems?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/techn...-resolved.html
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Old Apr 22, 2014, 1:18 pm
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We have changed the default so that it now shows "500+" days. That results in showing all without you having to do anything.

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Old Apr 22, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by IBobi
We have changed the default so that it now shows "500+" days. That results in showing all without you having to do anything.
Thank you Ibobi. I now see all of the 'missing' wikis. Appreciate the quick response.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 5:31 pm
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They're back
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 9:56 pm
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And...they're back. Can't explain why, but I find them really distracting.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 8:45 am
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I don't see the point of the wiki icon at all.

Knowing that a thread has a wiki without opening it does not make me any more or less inclined to view it. It just makes it harder to read the list of threads.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
While in most forums WIKIs are useful, I can see them being well how should I put it, less than useful in omni
I assume you have now changed your mind in light of the latest awesomeness
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian
Looks like the Wiki icon has been removed, and IB is once again comfortably ensconced in 1997.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by nux
I don't see the point of the wiki icon at all.

Knowing that a thread has a wiki without opening it does not make me any more or less inclined to view it. It just makes it harder to read the list of threads.
It definitely makes me more inclined to open it. The wiki badge means the thread is far more likely to serve me as a useful, easy-to-digest repository of information. I don't have time to read 300 posts on every topic. I can glance at a wiki for a minute and get an understanding of the situation. Wikis are the best function to come along to FlyerTalk since the forums were moved to vB 3.x a decade or whatever ago.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jackal
It definitely makes me more inclined to open it. The wiki badge means the thread is far more likely to serve me as a useful, easy-to-digest repository of information. I don't have time to read 300 posts on every topic. I can glance at a wiki for a minute and get an understanding of the situation. Wikis are the best function to come along to FlyerTalk since the forums were moved to vB 3.x a decade or whatever ago.
You aren't the average user of the wiki though. I doubt most read them.

I don't think this is a discussion about the icon, as much as it's location.
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Old Apr 24, 2014, 8:40 pm
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How to access posts without the Wiki popping up?

I am getting annoyed every time I open a thread and the "Wiki" thing pops up meaning I have to scroll down at every page to the individual posts I want to read.
Specifically "FlyerTalk Forums Thread Wiki: UAL 1Q 2014 Results". Maybe I missed instructions, but how can I access the posts without getting the "Wiki"?

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