Motion Failed, Voting Complete: Travel Health & Fitness forum
Oct 6, 2008, 7:31 pm
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Indeed you did. So noted. And a Porn forum is a fine idea that I would gladly contribute to also. That is assuming anybody here were interested in middle age bald guys. 
Back oh topic for a moment though, I would like to formally request this vote be counted as having had the requisite 2/3 by fact of having 5 for and 3 against with only 8 allowed to vote. (or do allow that 9th to decide if they wish to vote). One suspects a bit of taking advantage of this limited voting population in this case.
Back oh topic for a moment though, I would like to formally request this vote be counted as having had the requisite 2/3 by fact of having 5 for and 3 against with only 8 allowed to vote. (or do allow that 9th to decide if they wish to vote). One suspects a bit of taking advantage of this limited voting population in this case.
Again, I was talking in the general, not in the specific. Also, I voted for this forum.
When TalkBoard members make their choices on how to vote, we do so not only with the wishes of the community, but also as good stewards for FlyerTalk. I've mentioned examples in the past where a potential forum might be immensely popular, but not good for FlyerTalk (Traveling with Porn).
In every vote, the number of people who vote is variable. We could potentially have 8 people not vote and a vote pass 1-0-0-8. (or fail 0-1-0-8)
I think there are better solutions to making it more likely that all representatives will vote. However, I would prefer to keep the discussion on-topic and address that issue in the guidelines thread.
When TalkBoard members make their choices on how to vote, we do so not only with the wishes of the community, but also as good stewards for FlyerTalk. I've mentioned examples in the past where a potential forum might be immensely popular, but not good for FlyerTalk (Traveling with Porn).
In every vote, the number of people who vote is variable. We could potentially have 8 people not vote and a vote pass 1-0-0-8. (or fail 0-1-0-8)
I think there are better solutions to making it more likely that all representatives will vote. However, I would prefer to keep the discussion on-topic and address that issue in the guidelines thread.
Oct 6, 2008, 7:39 pm
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Back oh topic for a moment though, I would like to formally request this vote be counted as having had the requisite 2/3 by fact of having 5 for and 3 against with only 8 allowed to vote. (or do allow that 9th to decide if they wish to vote). One suspects a bit of taking advantage of this limited voting population in this case.
Oct 6, 2008, 7:46 pm
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Now, now, careful with that axe Eugene. There is also no mechanism for rounding up to 6 from 5.3333. Again, lets look at this vote in the spirit of the result and not the letter of the law. We shed that tyranny many years ago. Sally forth with me and vote American here. Let us go with Vox Populi in this case for the sake of all that is right.
Oct 6, 2008, 7:49 pm
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Oct 6, 2008, 7:52 pm
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Now, now, careful with that axe Eugene. There is also no mechanism for rounding up to 6 from 5.3333. Again, lets look at this vote in the spirit of the result and not the letter of the law. We shed that tyranny many years ago. Sally forth with me and vote American here. Let us go with Vox Populi in this case for the sake of all that is right.
Oct 6, 2008, 7:55 pm
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Exactly, and another reason why I'd like the TB members to fulfill their obligations by being able to serve and vote. I think TB members serve both TB & the FT community better when they are able to regularly vote on proposals/motions vs being unable to do so for non-travel related reasons.
I think a couple of the TB members that voted against it were spooked by the (relative) failure of the senior forum & lower count of other created forums. As lin821 pointed out, the group that would frequent the health/fitness forum would probably encompass a much larger set than that of the senior forum and have a better chance of being successful so I'm quite disappointed that it was voted down because of the concern re: other forums.
Because the majority of the FTers posting on the thread were supportive & indicated they would frequent such a forum, I think it will be proposed again in '09 and hopefully at that time will be approved.
Cheers.
I think a couple of the TB members that voted against it were spooked by the (relative) failure of the senior forum & lower count of other created forums. As lin821 pointed out, the group that would frequent the health/fitness forum would probably encompass a much larger set than that of the senior forum and have a better chance of being successful so I'm quite disappointed that it was voted down because of the concern re: other forums.
Because the majority of the FTers posting on the thread were supportive & indicated they would frequent such a forum, I think it will be proposed again in '09 and hopefully at that time will be approved.
Cheers.
Oct 6, 2008, 7:56 pm
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Understood.
Can we get this chad in front of Randy by chance for a quick yea or nay?
He may want to weigh in or may feel it has been fairly dealt with and needs no further action. May be worth a look see though. I understand I would need to accept either one. What would you advise vis a vis this particular vote?
Can we get this chad in front of Randy by chance for a quick yea or nay?
He may want to weigh in or may feel it has been fairly dealt with and needs no further action. May be worth a look see though. I understand I would need to accept either one. What would you advise vis a vis this particular vote?
Oct 6, 2008, 8:01 pm
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Understood.
Can we get this chad in front of Randy by chance for a quick yea or nay?
He may want to weigh in or may feel it has been fairly dealt with and needs no further action. May be worth a look see though. I understand I would need to accept either one. What would you advise vis a vis this particular vote?
Can we get this chad in front of Randy by chance for a quick yea or nay?
He may want to weigh in or may feel it has been fairly dealt with and needs no further action. May be worth a look see though. I understand I would need to accept either one. What would you advise vis a vis this particular vote?
Oct 6, 2008, 8:04 pm
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Understood.
Can we get this chad in front of Randy by chance for a quick yea or nay?
He may want to weigh in or may feel it has been fairly dealt with and needs no further action. May be worth a look see though. I understand I would need to accept either one. What would you advise vis a vis this particular vote?
Can we get this chad in front of Randy by chance for a quick yea or nay?
He may want to weigh in or may feel it has been fairly dealt with and needs no further action. May be worth a look see though. I understand I would need to accept either one. What would you advise vis a vis this particular vote?
My recommendation would be to PM or email him if you think he would intervene.
Oct 6, 2008, 8:09 pm
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Roger that. I may do so. Will post here if I do and the response I get assuming it is mail he is comfortable with my sharing.
Again, as I said up thread, thanks to one and all. It appears there is fertile ground for this idea and a bit more work on the garden will possibly allow it to yield a better crop if it is planted again.
Mike
Again, as I said up thread, thanks to one and all. It appears there is fertile ground for this idea and a bit more work on the garden will possibly allow it to yield a better crop if it is planted again.
Mike
Oct 6, 2008, 9:03 pm
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Actually I posted originally that I was disappointed in the decision because of the reason being expressed of concerns about the under-utilized seniors forum, hence my addressing those who voted against it, and had nothing to deal w/ bleed-over from the TB guidelines. In addition, I've PM'd those TB members to state more emphatically my disappointment w/ their vote on this forum.
Having said that, I am also disappointed that a TB member who had publicly stated her support of the creation of the forum was unable to vote. Had she been able to vote, the forum would have been approved. And if you think that's a bleed-over from the TB guidelines then it probably is.
Cheers.
Oct 6, 2008, 9:27 pm
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Roger that. I may do so. Will post here if I do and the response I get assuming it is mail he is comfortable with my sharing.
Again, as I said up thread, thanks to one and all. It appears there is fertile ground for this idea and a bit more work on the garden will possibly allow it to yield a better crop if it is planted again.
Mike
Again, as I said up thread, thanks to one and all. It appears there is fertile ground for this idea and a bit more work on the garden will possibly allow it to yield a better crop if it is planted again.
Mike
Oct 6, 2008, 9:40 pm
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So when can we expect a motion from you to get rid of the Senior Travel forum?
Oct 6, 2008, 9:51 pm
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Randy, please reconsider your 2004 OMNI Post Count decision
Can you stand another perspective on Omni?
Voting Completed - Motion Failed: Include OMNI posts in Post Counts
All I can say is FTers are strong & independent thinkers. We'll resort to all the possible channels, privately or publicly, when things are not heading toward where our hearts (or heads) desire.
As for the result, well, YMMV.
