Last edit by: JDiver
Post #116 by the Community Director:
"I've no plans to close the forum."
It's great to see new voices in this thread. Some have just learned of the Smoking Forum and hopefully will now use it. For the many reasons listed above:
I've no plans to close the forum.
Carol
Community Director
"I've no plans to close the forum."
It's great to see new voices in this thread. Some have just learned of the Smoking Forum and hopefully will now use it. For the many reasons listed above:
- It's a resource forum that doesn't require give and take conversation to be of value
- Smoking has become a negative topic in general. This forum is a safe haven for discussion.
- It doesn't take resources from other forums
I've no plans to close the forum.
Carol
Community Director
Closing the Smoking Section Forum [Update: it will stay open]
#91
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ireland
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Air France Platinum for life
Posts: 37
As others have noted, a "niche" forum is never going to be as "active" as something with a wider audience.
But that's the reason why I come to sites like this.
I don't see what harm there is in leaving the forum there and maybe this discussion might get more people to be active in it, but just because there haven't been a large volume of posts doesn't detract from the value that the existing content brings.
But that's the reason why I come to sites like this.
I don't see what harm there is in leaving the forum there and maybe this discussion might get more people to be active in it, but just because there haven't been a large volume of posts doesn't detract from the value that the existing content brings.
#92
+1 for keeping the forum!
For something like this, you can't measure it by the number of posts it gets, you measure it by usefulness to the audience. By keeping it, you provide a service that doesn't exist anywhere else, and even if it is 50 page views a month, that is 50 searches for something that people can't find elsewhere. I say keep it.
For something like this, you can't measure it by the number of posts it gets, you measure it by usefulness to the audience. By keeping it, you provide a service that doesn't exist anywhere else, and even if it is 50 page views a month, that is 50 searches for something that people can't find elsewhere. I say keep it.
#93
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1
The smoking forum is a helpful reference area, and should not be measured based on frequency of posts or general activity. I am unsure what "resources" are consumed by the forum, but certainly in terms of site operation and data storage those resources must be minimal. If human resources are required to monitor new content posted etc., I would expect those resources to also be minimal if the forum is receiving fewer posts than other highly active forums.
It is unfortunate, as another poster commented, that militant anti-smokers will do anything to silence the views and opinions of anyone who disagrees with them, which is both anti-democratic and anti-American. Everyone's viewpoint should have the opportunity to be heard. Additionally, this forum should be managed as a discussion and reference information source, and political or philosophical opinions and postings are likely best left for another location.
I hope that the forum here continues to stay active and survives this unwarranted attack.
It is unfortunate, as another poster commented, that militant anti-smokers will do anything to silence the views and opinions of anyone who disagrees with them, which is both anti-democratic and anti-American. Everyone's viewpoint should have the opportunity to be heard. Additionally, this forum should be managed as a discussion and reference information source, and political or philosophical opinions and postings are likely best left for another location.
I hope that the forum here continues to stay active and survives this unwarranted attack.
#94
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AA, DL
Posts: 7,418
Not a smoker, don't need the information here, but respect that it could be useful to others and don't see the harm it leaving it available for those folks.
#95
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 26
Keep open please
I was not even aware until the newsletter that this forum exists, but will have a look now.
#96
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
It's been repeated many times that it's used more for reference than for posting. I know I have it in My Flyertalk and if I see a new post I always go look at it to see if it's a question or just more information.
#97
Ambassador, New England
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Maineiac, USA
Programs: Amtrak, WN RR, Choice
Posts: 2,655
I've seen a lot of mention here about whether the forum is a 'successful' one, which seems to me to be subjective opinion at best. Everybody weighing in will have their own definition of 'success'.
But I ask those wishing to close the forum: If the forum is closed, where would you like the smoking-related posts to go, and why does that make things better than the way they are now? If people are saying it's helpful to them (and as I've posted in this thread previously, nobody thus far has come forward to say that the forum is less helpful to them than the way it was previously), why do you want to reverse the helpfulness?
But I ask those wishing to close the forum: If the forum is closed, where would you like the smoking-related posts to go, and why does that make things better than the way they are now? If people are saying it's helpful to them (and as I've posted in this thread previously, nobody thus far has come forward to say that the forum is less helpful to them than the way it was previously), why do you want to reverse the helpfulness?
#98
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia / Brasov, Romania
Programs: A3*G, Hertz Gold Rewards President Circle, Best Western Platinum,
Posts: 15
Another vote to keep it - I am now giving up smoking - but it has been invaluable at times. Keeping it hurts no one - losing it will impact those who use it just to satisfy the anti smoking crusaders.
#101
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: BRU
Programs: M&M FT, A3
Posts: 22
No closing
Not a smoker but can be helpfull for them, so why not keep it
#102
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 20
I am a strong anti-smoker, but this is a good way for adults who have made a legal choice to find places that accommodate them. After all when they have a place for their enjoyment, none of us has to smell it.
#103
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2012
Programs: AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Delta Silver Medallion, Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador
Posts: 14,110
It's a Special Interest forum. The Smoker's Lounge serves its purpose by providing and sharing information with a niche audience. As others have stated, other Special Interest fora (Disability and Women's Travel) in which I do participate (I don't participate in the Smoker's Lounge, as I don't smoke) may not have as much traffic as posts in hotel and airline fora, but they provide valuable information for specific types of travelers that is not easily accessible (or available at all) elsewhere on FT.
#104
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 7
+1 for keeping the smoking section forum open
I'm of the opinion that the smoking section should remain open. My argument is that it serves as an outlet for the smokers out there.
It is my view that smokers should not be discriminated.
Thank you.
It is my view that smokers should not be discriminated.
Thank you.
#105
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Aphelion 1.01671388 AU / Perihelion 0.98329134 AU
Programs: AA Concierge Key, Solitaire PPS Club, RC Platinum
Posts: 25
*What is to be gained by closing the thread? I'll donate $100 for server space costs out of principle.
Here's an analogy... I had a Plasma TV that needed repair. It was a limited-run TV, and there wasn't much info. available online. Low and behold after spending far too long searching various sites/threads/forums, I found a brief mention for the specific repair for my make & model TV. $20 piece and an hour soldering saved a $2000 TV. So, a "flyer who talks" wants to buy cigarettes in Singapore, or doesn't know where to find the lounge in DIA (for e.g.)... in time, this segmented thread will grow -i.e., hold value (as a community).
Does anyone remember Sarah Silverman on Bill Maher (years ago on Politically Incorrect?). The topic was a racial epithet laced joke she told on Conan. Guy Aoki was also a guest. Ergo, I end with, "I Love Smokers".
Peace out y'all. Keep on lifting the weights T2.