Feb 3, 2016, 1:55 pm
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Should the Travel News forum remain open as its own standalone forum?
Here is the Travel News forum. Should it remain open; or should it be closed? Please post objective reasons for either position below.
Keep the Travel News Forum Open
It provides a place where only news linked to other sources can be posted.
Travel News serves a different function than other forums. It is for news articles that can be quickly perused & not buried in other forums. TravelBuzz, for example, has topics such as 'should the spouse get the upgrade' & discussions re: that. Travel News has links to articles of interest that may or may not get commentary, but does get a lot of views so obviously of interest to FTers. Just as some will read articles in the NYTimes, Wall Street Journal, USAToday because the articles are of interest but not comment. That doesn't mean the articles have no value. They're easier to find in Travel News.
Close/Merge the Travel News Forum
It is redundant; and discussions posted in it are best served when residing in other forums on FlyerTalk — such as TravelBuzz, for example.
It is obsolete due to improved technology which has emerged over the years, allowing news pertaining to travel to be easily obtained elsewhere.
It is not at all clear what types of posts belong in it.
Travel News made a lot more sense before FT had a forum for any and every thing travel related. But now FT does and Travel News is out of step with how FlyerTalk is currently organized.
Here is the Travel News forum. Should it remain open; or should it be closed? Please post objective reasons for either position below.
Keep the Travel News Forum Open
It provides a place where only news linked to other sources can be posted.
Travel News serves a different function than other forums. It is for news articles that can be quickly perused & not buried in other forums. TravelBuzz, for example, has topics such as 'should the spouse get the upgrade' & discussions re: that. Travel News has links to articles of interest that may or may not get commentary, but does get a lot of views so obviously of interest to FTers. Just as some will read articles in the NYTimes, Wall Street Journal, USAToday because the articles are of interest but not comment. That doesn't mean the articles have no value. They're easier to find in Travel News.
Close/Merge the Travel News Forum
It is redundant; and discussions posted in it are best served when residing in other forums on FlyerTalk — such as TravelBuzz, for example.
It is obsolete due to improved technology which has emerged over the years, allowing news pertaining to travel to be easily obtained elsewhere.
It is not at all clear what types of posts belong in it.
Travel News made a lot more sense before FT had a forum for any and every thing travel related. But now FT does and Travel News is out of step with how FlyerTalk is currently organized.
Travel News Forum: close, re-purpose or merge with TravelBuzz?
Feb 4, 2016, 9:23 am
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Just take the latest TN post, the only one in the past two days.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...lane-food.html
Oh, right, there's a link to pretty pictures. It is news. Further, it comes from the pinnacle of news sources, with grammar such as "but lest we forget, a decades ago ..."
But there's a link.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...lane-food.html
Oh, right, there's a link to pretty pictures. It is news. Further, it comes from the pinnacle of news sources, with grammar such as "but lest we forget, a decades ago ..."
But there's a link.
Sooo...under the 'discuss the article not the subject of the article' paradigm, on that thread I can talk about those pictures, but I cannot talk about what the pictures show!?
I am more confused about why Travel News exists and what belongs there vs. Travel Buzz than ever.
Feb 4, 2016, 10:42 am
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Feb 4, 2016, 12:21 pm
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There is no real taxonomy or organization to FT - it's grown like a weed in 15 years. It should look more like a nice ficus.
(Another interesting example: Frontier's forum remains open even though it transitioned to an ULCC; Spirit, the pioneer of the ULCC model in America, can't get its own forum. There's all sorts of illogic there - or, more likely, simple inertia.)
Feb 4, 2016, 1:09 pm
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Wait, THAT's the kind of 'news' that belongs in Travel News!?
Sooo...under the 'discuss the article not the subject of the article' paradigm, on that thread I can talk about those pictures, but I cannot talk about what the pictures show!?
I am more confused about why Travel News exists and what belongs there vs. Travel Buzz than ever.
Sooo...under the 'discuss the article not the subject of the article' paradigm, on that thread I can talk about those pictures, but I cannot talk about what the pictures show!?
I am more confused about why Travel News exists and what belongs there vs. Travel Buzz than ever.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...eb-2016-a.html [American Airlines, 68 replies, 5,218 hits]
Feb 4, 2016, 1:28 pm
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To paraphrase the Gipper:
- Ronald Reagan as edited by kokonutz
Hyperbole? Certainly. But only just.
Happy to help you with this - the newsworthy part is covered here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...eb-2016-a.html [American Airlines, 68 replies, 5,218 hits]
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...eb-2016-a.html [American Airlines, 68 replies, 5,218 hits]
If anyone else had posted that thread in Travel News I'd have been like: must be a mistake as that post clearly belongs in TB. But no one else did, leaving me scratching my head.
Feb 4, 2016, 4:01 pm
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Why make it personal!? I would never have the audacity to call Travel News xxxxxxx's playground. Whether I thought it is or not. I choose to believe we are all trying to act in the best interests of FlyerTalk and its posters.
In any case this thread is about Travel News. Respectfully, if you want to talk about EM&PR, start a thread. I'd be more than happy to participate!
In any case this thread is about Travel News. Respectfully, if you want to talk about EM&PR, start a thread. I'd be more than happy to participate!
but as to "personal", I have a two very simple questions-Why are you so he||bent on closing Travel News and why do you keep bringing this subject up "from time to time" as it almost seems like a personal quest for you to get the Travel News forum closed.
When you were on Tailboard, the motion (brought forward by you) failed on a 7-2 vote (with the only other vote being the person who seconded your motion) so how about taking a cue from Frozen and "let it go"
Feb 4, 2016, 4:11 pm
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Feb 4, 2016, 4:19 pm
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but my first question still remains
Feb 4, 2016, 7:21 pm
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I choose to believe we are all trying to act in the best interests of FlyerTalk and its posters. Both those who agree with me as well as those who do not.
Feb 4, 2016, 9:32 pm
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I'm sorry that so much animosity has developed on this thread.
I've been following the discussion to see whether want to change my previous opinion, but without feeling that I can contribute anything here beyond what I said before about the reasons for my opinion.
I've been following the discussion to see whether want to change my previous opinion, but without feeling that I can contribute anything here beyond what I said before about the reasons for my opinion.
Feb 5, 2016, 9:19 am
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Feb 5, 2016, 11:51 am
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This is a tough topic to debate, as substantiation behind one's position may require questioning a moderator's decision in public. Obviously we all know that is a no-no.
If you have an issue with a specific moderation decision, take it up directly via PM with the person who initiated it. If the response is not acceptable to you, then you can consider contacting the Community Manager.
As to this thread, the regular contributors are all experienced at elucidating their voices coherently. I'm confident you can make your position known without getting personal or too specific.
If you have an issue with a specific moderation decision, take it up directly via PM with the person who initiated it. If the response is not acceptable to you, then you can consider contacting the Community Manager.
As to this thread, the regular contributors are all experienced at elucidating their voices coherently. I'm confident you can make your position known without getting personal or too specific.
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Feb 5, 2016, 4:11 pm
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Ok, so now there is a thread about a Vietnam Airlines plane losing cabin pressure posted in Travel News.
Is that the sort of article that belongs there, or does that belong in the Airlines of Asia forum? Would an article about delta go in there or does it go in the delta forum?
Or does that thread belong there but only if people talk about the article rather than the contents of the article?
Or if this is a(nother) case of someone misunderstanding this forum's remit and that thread will eventually be locked and moved?
Again, not trying to talk about moderation, moderators or any specific moderation action. Just using that thread as an example to try to understand what actually belongs in that forum and what does not.
Can anyone explain?
Is that the sort of article that belongs there, or does that belong in the Airlines of Asia forum? Would an article about delta go in there or does it go in the delta forum?
Or does that thread belong there but only if people talk about the article rather than the contents of the article?
Or if this is a(nother) case of someone misunderstanding this forum's remit and that thread will eventually be locked and moved?
Again, not trying to talk about moderation, moderators or any specific moderation action. Just using that thread as an example to try to understand what actually belongs in that forum and what does not.
Can anyone explain?
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Feb 5, 2016, 4:51 pm
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I have to say I find your critiquing of every article posted there to be frustrating. It may also deter people from posting. It is not the job of FTers to decide who gets to post what and where, if you think something is posted in error then hit the Alert A Moderator button.
Feb 5, 2016, 5:14 pm
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I have to say I find your critiquing of every article posted there to be frustrating. It may also deter people from posting. It is not the job of FTers to decide who gets to post what and where, if you think something is posted in error then hit the Alert A Moderator button.