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"Like" Button?
Ok, I searched for this topic in this forum and didn't see it. I have this sense that this has been brought up before, and I'm posting something unnecessary. I sincerely apologize if this is the case.
That said, a "like" button would be nice to minimize unnecessary replies and provide an option for folks to say "I hear you." Again, please disregard if this has been discussed or dismissed before. I've not posted in this forum before, so I'm not up on the etiquette. Thank you! |
There was some type of rating system here years ago and it did not go well. Birthday threads were given thumbs down, for instance, and the whole system was anonymous. Unless you can come up with some way to have the system not be anonymous, not sure there's much to be gained here. Might check in the Technical Issues forum to see if the tech support staff can even set up such a thing before asking the Talk Board to implement it.
Milepoint does have software that allows you to give a thumbs up to a thread, but the positive there is that your screen name appears at the bottom of the post you rated and it identifies you. It can't be done anonymously. |
Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 21252615)
There was some type of rating system here years ago and it did not go well. Birthday threads were given thumbs down, for instance, and the whole system was anonymous. Unless you can come up with some way to have the system not be anonymous, not sure there's much to be gained here. Might check in the Technical Issues forum to see if the tech support staff can even set up such a thing before asking the Talk Board to implement it.
Milepoint does have software that allows you to give a thumbs up to a thread, but the positive there is that your screen name appears at the bottom of the post you rated and it identifies you. It can't be done anonymously. |
I know that newer versions of VBulletin have this functionality built in almost exactly as you describe -- the ability to "like" a post with the user names of those that have "liked" it displayed at the bottom of the post. Here's a screenshot from another forum I read:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3563/ofkr.jpg It's just a question of whether this functionality can be brought to the older version of VBulletin that FT is built on. :rolleyes: -S |
Originally Posted by Sarfa33
(Post 21272704)
I know that newer versions of VBulletin have this functionality built in almost exactly as you describe -- the ability to "like" a post with the user names of those that have "liked" it displayed at the bottom of the post. Here's a screenshot from another forum I read:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3563/ofkr.jpg It's just a question of whether this functionality can be brought to the older version of VBulletin that FT is built on. :rolleyes: -S |
I would actually find this very distracting and busy.... I honestly want to read the posts for content.... not who else liked it. And it will take up valuable screen space!
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Originally Posted by wharvey
(Post 21283667)
I would actually find this very distracting and busy.... I honestly want to read the posts for content.... not who else liked it. And it will take up valuable screen space!
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by wharvey
(Post 21283667)
I would actually find this very distracting and busy.... I honestly want to read the posts for content.... not who else liked it. And it will take up valuable screen space!
Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 21284045)
Speaking as a regular FTer & not as TB member, I agree (especially if someone posts something that everyone likes - the list of those liking could be longer than the post :D).
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6805/mvtn.png As you can see, the "like" list is truncated. Clicking on the "7 others" link will expand the list to show all of the usernames. Until you click it, though, the list remains short. Personally, I like the functionality and have seen on other boards that it does seem to cut down on the posts that just say "+1" to something that someone said earlier. I also don't feel that it makes the screen look cluttered, but that's obviously IMHO. :) -S |
While I can see the benefit of obviating all the "+1" posts or those that merely say "I agree" and understand the intent is to recognize helpful contributions the "like" icon to me is just another reputation tool that can rewards familiarity & frequency as much as quality.
A member who posts occasionally in a few forums offering insightful contributions or sharing a great fare find won't become as well known as those who post more often but perhaps on a broader range of topics over multiple fora and so their reputation won't build to the same level but that doesn't mean they are any less valuable a contributor but rather just participate differently. I'm okay with us not having this type of tool in out FT toolbox, though that's merely MHO. |
Meh... Too much like FB.
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Originally Posted by tcook052
(Post 21284864)
While I can see the benefit of obviating all the "+1" posts or those that merely say "I agree" and understand the intent is to recognize helpful contributions the "like" icon to me is just another reputation tool that can rewards familiarity & frequency as much as quality.
A member who posts occasionally in a few forums offering insightful contributions or sharing a great fare find won't become as well known as those who post more often but perhaps on a broader range of topics over multiple fora and so their reputation won't build to the same level but that doesn't mean they are any less valuable a contributor but rather just participate differently. I'm okay with us not having this type of tool in out FT toolbox, though that's merely MHO. |
FWIW & IMO - some people will still post +1 or I agree even if there is a like button, so it's not going to eliminate a perceived problem.
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 21287974)
I'm a bit confused by this post in that having like button and displaying a (truncated) like list is very different from having a website calculate some reputation metric and display that rating. While likes are likely to be part of a reputation score, the two concepts are logically different in that each post could report likes without FT going beyond this to compute and reveal reputations. I thought the OP and others in this thread were talking about just having the possibility of a (truncated) list of likers at the bottom of each post.
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Originally Posted by Sarfa33
(Post 21284739)
So this is how a post actually looks.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6805/mvtn.png As you can see, the "like" list is truncated. Clicking on the "7 others" link will expand the list to show all of the usernames. Until you click it, though, the list remains short. Personally, I like the functionality and have seen on other boards that it does seem to cut down on the posts that just say "+1" to something that someone said earlier. I also don't feel that it makes the screen look cluttered, but that's obviously IMHO. :) -S +1 I rest my case! :) |
I see a big difference between like & +1
Like = you appreciate or value the post +1 = you agree with the post, as in you have experience or knowledge with this issue & agree with the post The two are very different. I would also see the I-Like-That-Poster mentality & clicking like regardless if the post is of any real value. -- |
Originally Posted by Sweet Willie
(Post 21335181)
I see a big difference between like & +1
Like = you appreciate or value the post +1 = you agree with the post, as in you have experience or knowledge with this issue & agree with the post The two are very different. :D |
IMHO, some posts have merit. Others do not. What I care about is whether *I* think a post has merit, not whether other posters think so or not.
So I think a 'like' feature is worthless. But others feel differently and if someone wants to make a compelling case for them to convinces me that functionality would have benefit for some, I would be up for asking IB to look into it. |
Originally Posted by Sweet Willie
(Post 21335181)
I see a big difference between like & +1
Like = you appreciate or value the post +1 = you agree with the post, as in you have experience or knowledge with this issue & agree with the post The two are very different. I would also see the I-Like-That-Poster mentality & clicking like regardless if the post is of any real value. -- 1) The semantic difference between "Like" and "+1" is not reflected in how people actually use the "Like" feature -- people use the button to express agreement with the content of the post. 2) I have not seen the "Like" feature become a popularity contest -- people are generally pretty good about using the feature to highlight the content rather than the poster. If the wording of the feature could be changed to be "+1" instead of "Like", would that change people's opinions? -S |
Originally Posted by Sweet Willie
(Post 21335181)
I see a big difference between like & +1
Like = you appreciate or value the post +1 = you agree with the post, as in you have experience or knowledge with this issue & agree with the post The two are very different. --
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 21339417)
IMHO, some posts have merit. Others do not. What I care about is whether *I* think a post has merit, not whether other posters think so or not.
So I think a 'like' feature is worthless. But others feel differently and if someone wants to make a compelling case for them to convinces me that functionality would have benefit for some, I would be up for asking IB to look into it. Cheers. |
Hi everyone. I'm new here but yeah, a "like" button or any sort of thumb up would really streamline things and make it easier to read through :)
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Originally Posted by LadyShallot
(Post 21353306)
Hi everyone. I'm new here but yeah, a "like" button or any sort of thumb up would really streamline things and make it easier to read through :)
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Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 21354369)
How does a "like" button make it easier to read through a thread? I can't quite grasp how it does that.
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Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 21355948)
My guess is that the person feels a like button would reduce the number of "+1" or "^" posts in a thread, thus making it easier to read the rest of the thread.
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Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 21355948)
My guess is that the person feels a like button would reduce the number of "+1" or "^" posts in a thread, thus making it easier to read the rest of the thread.
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 21357106)
Do +1s take up that much real estate/make it hard to read? Doesn't seem like it to me.
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 21357299)
It can mean a thread going to multiple pages, depending on your options.
For me, the rationale is cutting down on multiple long answers that say the same exact thing (a nice side effect would also be a decrease in "^^" or "Yes, yes, yes +1" posts). Note that I am guilty of this at times, which is part of the reason for the suggestion. FTers are generally encouraged not to create new threads or even new posts with questions if the answer can be found using search functionality. It is also the case that one question may have multiple valid answers. In order to help folks comply with the board's wishes that new threads and posts be kept to a minimum while maximizing the usefulness of existing threads, a "like" or "+1" button might cut down on repetitiveness, thus making threads easier to navigate and generally digest for someone seeking information. That's my thought, at least. Whether it actually works in practice remains to be seen. :) |
Originally Posted by zcat18
(Post 21357452)
Correct.
For me, the rationale is cutting down on multiple long answers that say the same exact thing (a nice side effect would also be a decrease in "^^" or "Yes, yes, yes +1" posts). Note that I am guilty of this at times, which is part of the reason for the suggestion. FTers are generally encouraged not to create new threads or even new posts with questions if the answer can be found using search functionality. It is also the case that one question may have multiple valid answers. In order to help folks comply with the board's wishes that new threads and posts be kept to a minimum while maximizing the usefulness of existing threads, a "like" or "+1" button might cut down on repetitiveness, thus making threads easier to navigate and generally digest for someone seeking information. That's my thought, at least. Whether it actually works in practice remains to be seen. :) |
Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 21357867)
One of the things that may be helpful is to change your page options so that it shows 20, 30, or even 40 posts/page.
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by zcat18
(Post 21357452)
...a "like" or "+1" button might cut down on repetitiveness, thus making threads easier to navigate and generally digest for someone seeking information.
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 21359290)
That was one of the first things I learned on FT. That & "My Flyertalk" are 2 things that make FT easier.
Cheers. Maybe I should make a TalkBoard motion to change that. ;) |
Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 21387127)
For the life of me, I cannot figure out why 40 posts per page, in the year 2013, isn't the default (at least for new members).
Maybe I should make a TalkBoard motion to change that. ;) I was thinking today when I posted :D :D after a post if that counted as a +1 or a 'like' :D Cheers. |
This would be a great feature. Could also call it "Thanks" feature (instead of "Like"). It would actually save a lot of posts, and it would be a good way to reward especially useful posts. German website http://www.vielfliegertreff.de has this system, and I have found it really, really useful. It's a friendly, positive feature with practically no potential for abuse.
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Originally Posted by Football Fan
(Post 21395257)
This would be a great feature. Could also call it "Thanks" feature (instead of "Like"). It would actually save a lot of posts, and it would be a good way to reward especially useful posts. German website http://www.vielfliegertreff.de has this system, and I have found it really, really useful. It's a friendly, positive feature with practically no potential for abuse.
-S |
Originally Posted by Sarfa33
(Post 21395515)
I like the idea of having it be "Thanks" instead of "Like". ^
-S |
I support the "like" option, which is used on all the other forums I visit. A simple indicTion of agreement and/or appreciation. Quick and easy.
I deplore the "+1" posts, which not only clutter the threads but also indicate, on the forum index, a "new post" ... which on subsequent inspection says nothing new. That's a waste of my time! |
Originally Posted by T8191
(Post 21403395)
I support the "like" option, which is used on all the other forums I visit. A simple indicTion of agreement and/or appreciation. Quick and easy.
I deplore the "+1" posts, which not only clutter the threads but also indicate, on the forum index, a "new post" ... which on subsequent inspection says nothing new. That's a waste of my time! IMHO, using "Thanks" instead of "like" is simply a matter of personal taste and there is nothing wrong with the description "like". |
Originally Posted by mirror74
(Post 21403125)
Originally Posted by Sarfa33
(Post 21395515)
I like the idea of having it be "Thanks" instead of "Like". ^
http://i.imgur.com/oBJeiYt.png |
Yes, Yes, Yes! I love these features on other community sites, and it would be a great add to FlyerTalk. (Likes, thanks, either way)
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 21284045)
Originally Posted by wharvey
(Post 21283667)
I would actually find this very distracting and busy.... I honestly want to read the posts for content.... not who else liked it. And it will take up valuable screen space!
Cheers.
Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 21288905)
FWIW & IMO - some people will still post +1 or I agree even if there is a like button, so it's not going to eliminate a perceived problem.
Cheers.
Originally Posted by cblaisd
(Post 21337061)
Originally Posted by Sweet Willie
(Post 21335181)
I see a big difference between like & +1
Like = you appreciate or value the post +1 = you agree with the post, as in you have experience or knowledge with this issue & agree with the post The two are very different. I would also see the I-Like-That-Poster mentality & clicking like regardless if the post is of any real value. -- :D |
Originally Posted by Sarfa33
(Post 21339588)
Two thoughts here based on my experience with this feature on other boards.
1) The semantic difference between "Like" and "+1" is not reflected in how people actually use the "Like" feature -- people use the button to express agreement with the content of the post. 2) I have not seen the "Like" feature become a popularity contest -- people are generally pretty good about using the feature to highlight the content rather than the poster. If the wording of the feature could be changed to be "+1" instead of "Like", would that change people's opinions? -S I think the place that it brings the most outsized value is when there are contradictory posts. It can be made clear to newbies or to those who don't know the answer, which of the contradictory posts is correct. But in general, I just like positive feedback. I think it incentivizes quality content. If I receive 10 Likes for a post, it makes me more likely to take the time to contribute quality content in the future. It's just human nature that we like having our efforts appreciated. And appreciated in a way that doesn't sidetrack and clutter the thread. |
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