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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24010811)
So what happens if a post that is "liked" gets its content edited and ends up having a different meaning than it initially had at the time the post was "liked"?
There is room for mischievous and misleading behavior if the "likes" don't disappear upon a post being edited for content. As I wrote earlier, the Internet is full of beneficial features which are susceptible to abuse but which are not routinely abused: eBay, craigslist, Uber, and so on. FlyerTalk members are more mature than typical Internet users, so it makes sense to expect proper behavior. |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 24011958)
It shouldn't, unless the spelling correction is something like the two letter change from "jerk" to "hero."
Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 24011966)
I don't think software can prevent all possible gaming. I expect any trial to demonstrate that FlyerTalk members are a cut above and therefore will not play every game they can think of to abuse reader feedback.
As I wrote earlier, the Internet is full of beneficial features which are susceptible to abuse but which are not routinely abused: eBay, craigslist, Uber, and so on. FlyerTalk members are more mature than typical Internet users, so it makes sense to expect proper behavior. |
Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 24011966)
I don't think software can prevent all possible gaming. I expect any trial to demonstrate that FlyerTalk members are a cut above and therefore will not play every game they can think of to abuse reader feedback.
As I wrote earlier, the Internet is full of beneficial features which are susceptible to abuse but which are not routinely abused: eBay, craigslist, Uber, and so on. FlyerTalk members are more mature than typical Internet users, so it makes sense to expect proper behavior. The gaming behavior that goes on (or does not go on) in trial periods may be different than the gaming behavior that goes on later -- different in nature and quantity. And then you'll say the mods can deal with it or rules can be changed? |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24010811)
So what happens if a post that is "liked" gets its content edited and ends up having a different meaning than it initially had at the time the post was "liked"?
There is room for mischievous and misleading behavior if the "likes" don't disappear upon a post being edited for content. 1. On our forum, once a response to a posting has been placed, editing of any prior posting is disallowed, except by a moderator or administrator. That's very different from FlyerTalk. Even if a post doesn't follow, an existing post can only be user-edited for about 30 minutes and then it's essentially cast in stone. Any edits by moderation appear as notated at the bottom of the post similar to FT. 2. A member's 'like totals', both received and given, are displayed in their public profile and, when clicked on, a list of the precise postings they have been liked for or liked is returned and any member can peruse those postings. Experience varies but like totals can be or become a measure of social 'popularity' and the basis for political activities. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24012212)
The previous rating system that FT put up and then pulled -- because it was "abused" even on FTer birthday posts -- brings into doubt the assertion that the FT point game players won't play games to score points for or against individuals even when there is no post content to criticize unless the point is to criticize the individual or appear to be a good or bad "gang" member.
The gaming behavior that goes on (or does not go on) in trial periods may be different than the gaming behavior that goes on later -- different in nature and quantity. And then you'll say the mods can deal with it or rules can be changed? |
Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 24012020)
Is there a way to differentiate between a spelling correction and editing for content?
If it wasn't FT, I might agree. However, by nature, many of the members "game" the points and miles system. |
Originally Posted by camachinist
(Post 24012325)
2. A member's 'like totals', both received and given, are displayed in their public profile and, when clicked on, a list of the precise postings they have been liked for or liked is returned and any member can peruse those postings. Experience varies but like totals can be or become a measure of social 'popularity' and the basis for political activities.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 24012343)
I don't think so because it requires knowledge of "intent." Some IA based algorithms could "learn" to distinguish some of it, but my JerK/HerO example even involves interchanging letters that are located nearby on the QWERTY keyboard, so they could easily be innocent typos.
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Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 24012473)
That's essentially a reputation feature, which I think we should explicitly exclude from any trial. People would definitely game a system which included reputation.
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Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 24012473)
That's essentially a reputation feature, which I think we should explicitly exclude from any trial. People would definitely game a system which included reputation.
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Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 24012643)
Has it been determined if IB's current feature that is active for moderators shows a list of the precise postings they have been liked for or liked is returned?
However this issue turns out I want to say how grateful I am that we have been able to discuss it so thoroughly and uncover quite a few questions that we otherwise would have overlooked. To everyone who posted here: a big ^ |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24013170)
"Likes" are a reputation feature of a sort.
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While we discuss this proposal, here is an impromptu “like” button in the meantime — albeit disabled for the time being:
http://www.angelfire.com/nc3/throwaway/like.jpg
Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 24013185)
An evanescent one
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Originally Posted by camachinist
(Post 24007373)
If FT were to implement such a system, my vote would be for an anonymous " ^:td:" type system similar to that of youtube and other sites.
Some terrific points have been raised in this thread, though. Color me impressed by the consideration and high level of discourse that this topic has been afforded. ^;) |
TalkBoard has requested a thirty day poll, and as Internet Brands prefers "Helpful" to "Like", that is the term used in the poll. The poll is one single choice vote per member; votes are secret.
JDiver, for the TalkBoard moderation team |
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