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camsean Dec 28, 2014 4:48 am

I voted no. I don't see the point.

kipper Dec 28, 2014 4:59 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 24061385)
Or maybe it is just a whole bunch of "brand new members" ;)

You don't happen to mean members who have no posts, and who likely will never have any posts, do you? :D

jt82 Dec 28, 2014 5:30 am

I've never seen any point to this sort of feature, and an attempt to introduce this feature on the main forum I frequent resulted in chaos and it was removed within days. This isn't Facebook.

overseasplease Dec 28, 2014 5:42 am

I wouldn't want such a button.

Reasons for me are detrimental development of cliques as mentioned before and seen in many other forums but much more that public opinion would be more guided by the amounts of "likes" and subsequent answerds directed in this direction (can happen on purpose but more often it's subconcious). I like to trawl through posts and find many snippets I might not if the "right" i.e. popular opinion is guided (again, not necessarily on purpose but we just work that way).

T8191 Dec 28, 2014 6:19 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24061959)
I would have thought you and I would have been anything but a prime target given our history of activity on this issue. And PMs are not the only way we communicate on and off FT. ;) Time and resources spent on other things to drive the vote would probably be better off invested on others, unless it was to try to convince us to get others whom we know are likely or certainly going to vote in the "preferred" way -- even if those others are lurkers-turned-new-members-turned-voters or double digit or less post count voters -- to vote. It's an open, "secret" vote for all who register regardless of FT member registration date, right?

Just saying.

My bold ... that was my only thought [if it even happened, which I'm not convinced it did].

I shall sit back and let democracy, and the good judgement of TalkBoard, take its course ;)

MSPeconomist Dec 28, 2014 6:23 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 24059657)
I can understand that, although it's definitely an argument in favor of waiting a while to vote.

I would have thought so, but I guess if your mind is already made up regardless, this isn't a consideration.

SkiAdcock Dec 28, 2014 7:33 am

Interesting to see a big jump in votes overnight again ;)

SkiAdcock Dec 28, 2014 7:51 am


Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 24060147)
I think this thread in the BA forum has increased traffic:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...our-forum.html

Perhaps, but in that thread there are more posting that they do not support the like button than do support it & their reasons why. They're very polite in their reasoning :)

Cheers.

goalie Dec 28, 2014 11:36 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 24061989)

Originally Posted by goalie (Post 24061385)
Or maybe it is just a whole bunch of "brand new members" ;)

You don't happen to mean members who have no posts, and who likely will never have any posts, do you? :D

On the advice of counsel ;) and even where the poll is anonymous, I would be curious if IB has the ability/capability to see how many if any of the voters are in fact brand new members

Canarsie Dec 28, 2014 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by intuition (Post 24061926)
Is it a fact that there will be no incentive on FT?

I asked earlier in this thread about the plan what to do with the data collected, ie would 'likes'/'helpful' be used for anything later on. Like top lists, status and so on, but I didn't really get an answer.

I was talking about FlyerTalk members.

As for Internet Brands, I have no knowledge about how — or if — the company would potentially benefit from the implementation of a “like” button...

CMK10 Dec 28, 2014 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24059990)
Quite interesting how much the poll voting suddenly swung today from one category to another. The product of a lobbying effort having come to fruition or of more people being in the office today and a related shift in voting patterns? Quite the large swing in one fell swoop.


Originally Posted by ozstamps (Post 24060034)
"Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap"

Someone should write a song about it.

Sad to see FT gets to this level on a non issue vote.


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 24060695)
I noticed that as well, and questioned the large swing.

All due respect but, can we dial it back a notch here? I would say there's a 99.999999% chance that there is no lobbying effort. Yes, nsx wants this button, but I imagine he has better things to do with his time, as does anyone else in favor of this, then going out and lobbying people to vote for it. We're talking about a possible change to an internet bulletin board here...let's keep some perspective.

Plus, that poll can go to 60/40, or 75/25, and certain TB Members will still vote no.

Pat89339 Dec 28, 2014 1:02 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 24063635)

Plus, that poll can go to 60/40, or 75/25, and certain TB Members will still vote no.

Are you saying that TB Members will ignore the poll and vote the way they were going to anyway? If so, then what is the purpose of the poll? We really want your opinion {winky winky}. :confused:

SkiAdcock Dec 28, 2014 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 24063330)
On the advice of counsel ;) and even where the poll is anonymous, I would be curious if IB has the ability/capability to see how many if any of the voters are in fact brand new members

While some might be PMing their FT buddies to stop by & vote a certain way, I doubt if anyone is really going out & creating new handles to do so. That's a little too black helicopter.


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 24063629)
I was talking about FlyerTalk members.

As for Internet Brands, I have no knowledge about how — or if — the company would potentially benefit from the implementation of a “like” button...

There's probably a way, although I'm not willing to spend much time thinking of one & IB pretty much lets FT do its own thing according to the CD. If like was being driven by IB for financial reasons, it would have been implemented a long time ago.

On a dif note, jackal had posted earlier that having a like/helpful button would get people to post more additional information/wouldn't be too lazy to post because they love the kudos that would come from a like. Interestingly enough, someone posted the opposite on the BA thread - that in the past they might contribute more or add on to what someone said, but now if they can just get by with posting like/helpful to someone they won't feel the need to provide additional information like they would have previously.

Cheers.

CMK10 Dec 28, 2014 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Pat89339 (Post 24063681)
Are you saying that TB Members will ignore the poll and vote the way they were going to anyway? If so, then what is the purpose of the poll? We really want your opinion {winky winky}. :confused:

The poll is merely a tiny sample of people on this website. We have to vote based on what we think is best for Flyertalk. Will the votes of 500 or so be enough to change the FT experience for half a million people? Also, there's a number of responses in a separate thread in the BA forum that have to be taken into account.

SkiAdcock Dec 28, 2014 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by Pat89339 (Post 24063681)
Are you saying that TB Members will ignore the poll and vote the way they were going to anyway? If so, then what is the purpose of the poll? We really want your opinion {winky winky}. :confused:

From what I've seen posted on this thread, TB members are paying attention to both the thread(s) & to the poll. There are 9 TB members. Some are wildly supportive & might vote yes re: of the poll/threads; some not really that supportive & might vote no re: of the poll/threads, and some will vote based more on the poll/threads (in TB, BA & Omni). And some might think they're going to vote one way & post it & then change their mind, as discussions occur. Sometimes viewpoints change; sometimes they don't. A poll wouldn't have been created & left open for a month if it was going to be ignored. However, the poll is not the only conduit for info. There are some threads (including this one) where FTers are being asked to provide input both for & against. TB members are paying attention (from what I can tell) to BOTH the threads & to the poll.

FWIW - prior to the thread getting bumped by nsx, the like thread had been dormant for a year. When it was active a year ago, FTers were pretty evenly split 50/50 on whether they wanted like. After the thread was bumped, the input was still pretty evenly split 50/50. After the poll was created, the no's were leading the yes's until recently. But even now the two aren't that far apart. Basically there's not a clear or clamoring mandate by FTers for such a feature.

Cheers.


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