Ritz-Carlton Rewards Forum
#16
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RC property discussions currently reside in both the Marriott & Luxury hotel forums.
Property comparison discussions (such as how does RC XX compare to Four Seasons XX or Aman XX) reside in the Luxury hotel forum.
If I understand the OP correctly, he would like to see RC get its own forum because RC has a rewards program, CC tie-ins, etc, and see discussions re: those & properties (not comparison threads) go in to a separate RC forum.
That might make sense (or not), just as it might make sense (or not) to have RC become a sub-forum of Marriott since the rewards program is basically the same w/ 2 different front ends, or it might make sense to just change the Marriott forum title to incorporate RC (or not).
There are 3 possible items for TB to consider, based on this thread & the other changing the forum title thread.
Cheers.
Property comparison discussions (such as how does RC XX compare to Four Seasons XX or Aman XX) reside in the Luxury hotel forum.
If I understand the OP correctly, he would like to see RC get its own forum because RC has a rewards program, CC tie-ins, etc, and see discussions re: those & properties (not comparison threads) go in to a separate RC forum.
That might make sense (or not), just as it might make sense (or not) to have RC become a sub-forum of Marriott since the rewards program is basically the same w/ 2 different front ends, or it might make sense to just change the Marriott forum title to incorporate RC (or not).
There are 3 possible items for TB to consider, based on this thread & the other changing the forum title thread.
Cheers.
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#17
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The following are qualitative criteria that the TalkBoard believes are useful to consider when evaluating proposals to create, close, split, or move forums. Whenever a forum change is discussed on the TalkBoard Topics, the TalkBoard encourages posters to fully address these criteria in addition to any other reasons supporting or opposing the change.
1. Will the forum be (or is it now) beneficial to FlyerTalk?
1. Will the forum be (or is it now) beneficial to FlyerTalk?
Discussion is already taking place on FT, clearly there is an interest. Since the Ritz-Carlton and other luxury hotel chains are increasingly leveraging points based rewards and recognition programs I believe this is an FT worthy discussion.
Splitting the forum would be an acceptable alternative IMHO, but a separate forum altogether would be ideal. It would take some adjusting and possibly moving threads around but ultimately I believe it would be an enhancement for FT readers seeking Ritz-Carlton related discussion.
#19
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i would argue marriott is removing the "gap" between RC and its other brands
but i now recognize the position that it is different from other chains, in terms of being a "subsidiary" or something like that
but i now recognize the position that it is different from other chains, in terms of being a "subsidiary" or something like that
#20
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Ritz Carlton thread
As a newbie poster but frequent visitor for information and help, wouldn't it be good to look at this from the point of those coming here for information? Say you are new to the credit card game, you google search the new card you have received to see if you are fully taking advantage of that specific cards offerings, or if you could maximize its potential. While you are correct that the Marriott Thread is a mix of basically the same features, the fact is my card is Ritz Carlton branded. I search for Ritz Carlton, and information in the thread is geared towards that end.
IMHO no harm in a thread that is useful and helpful for all to use, new and old.
IMHO no harm in a thread that is useful and helpful for all to use, new and old.
#21
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Splitting the forum would be an acceptable alternative IMHO, but a separate forum altogether would be ideal. It would take some adjusting and possibly moving threads around but ultimately I believe it would be an enhancement for FT readers seeking Ritz-Carlton related discussion.
FWIW, I'm not a big fan of subfora - primarily due to how they display on FT.
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st regis, park hyatt, waldorf...
#23
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Trying to separate the conjoined Marriott/Ritz-Carlton twin is only asking for more confusion about topic location and overlapping threads in both forums and future complaints that it's too frustrating. That is merely MHO of course and YMMV.
#24
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Sorry but the comparison to Fairmont that keeps getting made is IMHO invalid as unlike Fairmont, Marriott and RC have chosen to allign themselves with each other and that affiliation makes it harder to discuss them separately. Fairmont was never a partner of another hotel chain and so didn't trade on any corporate marketing relationship or association with another hotelier.
Trying to separate the conjoined Marriott/Ritz-Carlton twin is only asking for more confusion about topic location and overlapping threads in both forums and future complaints that it's too frustrating. That is merely MHO of course and YMMV.
Trying to separate the conjoined Marriott/Ritz-Carlton twin is only asking for more confusion about topic location and overlapping threads in both forums and future complaints that it's too frustrating. That is merely MHO of course and YMMV.
Hello! Ritz-Carlton is Marriott is Ritz-Carlton.
If anything, possibly amend the current Marriott forum title to include Ritz.
But seriously, the people that come to FT know that Ritz is Marriott. And if they have any questions, go to the Marriott forum (and in some cases, the Luxury Hotels forum).
#25
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FWIW, I stay mainly at JW MR, MR, Ren, and RC properties. I have no problem ignoring CY, SH, FFI, and RI threads. I also often use the search feature (heaven forbid) and will search for specific hotels and/or cities I am interested in. Doing this in one forum would be much more convenient IMO especially since the programs are the same. Same rules, same redemption opportunities, same hotels. The only difference are their promos. Not to mention the vast resource of information already available via the search function regarding the aspects and nuances of the MR and RCR programs (same rules remember).
So my vote is for a joint Marriott Rewards & Ritz-Carlton Rewards forum. It is that already with the exception of the name.
So my vote is for a joint Marriott Rewards & Ritz-Carlton Rewards forum. It is that already with the exception of the name.
#26
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If there is a separate RCR forum then they would discuss both RC and other Marriott brands earning and burning opportunities there also. After all their program, like the MR program, allows earning and burning at all Marriott brands (including RC).
Keep in mind these forums are not Hotel forums, but are frequent stay program forums. Therefore we have a choice:
1) A Marriott Rewards forum and a separate Ritz-Carlton Rewards Forum whose rules are identical and whose earn and burn opportunities are identical. There will be redundant discussions, some discussions about other Marriott brands by RCR members in their forum and other discussions about RC brand by MR members in their forum.
- or -
2) A combined Marriott Rewards and Ritz-Carlton Rewards forum whose programs are governed by common T&C.
#2 just makes way more sense IMO.
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I would vote to rename the current MR forum to a joint name. I don't think we need an extra forum.
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In the Marriott forum there is a Poll thread on this very topic, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...d-renamed.html, where any FT member can vote on their preferred option. The voting will last until Oct. 22. So there is a lot of time for everyone to make their voice heard.