lin821

And you think the majority of people would read it?

Kagehitokiri

if people dont read it and follow it, then there should be no replies

it just gets silly

this could become a TB election issue, but as far as i recall it was not one last election

lin821

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You do realize I am making post#18 in this thread, don't you?

I've lost count on how many threads that request new fora are started by folks who never read nor aware of said TB Topics sticky w/r/r new forum creation.

RichMSN

I'm curious what you mean by your last line here.

As far as this goes, I'm not opposed to such a forum, but "because AMEX has one" is hardly a reason in itself for a forum for Chase.

NickB

Add to that theat the prominence of credit card deals/discussions on FF bloggers' sites is linked to the fact that quite a few make a substantial income from credit card referrals and you end up with a double overblowing effect.

ramalama8

I assume you're saying this for context purposes of showing the way FT is organized, in which case I agree. It wouldn't make sense for this statement to purport that ONLY travel related discussions should be on FT (else why OMNI?), and not that signing up for credit cards for the purpose of obtaining miles/points isn't travel related.

And what do you think folks that are churning or applying for new cards are going to do with all of those UR points? This is still a relatively new program with most folks obtaining significant UR balances within the past 12 months - IMHO, we'll see a large upswing of participation in discussion around the UR program.

Agreed that it's a simpler program, but again, does that serve as a disqualifying factor? WN's RR program is MUCH simpler than, say, UA's MP. But does that mean that RR shouldn't have it's own forum?

Not appreciative of the snide undertone, but I do appreciate the link. I actually looked through all of the criteria and the guidelines are not at all definitive in ruling out Chase UR. In fact, based on these guidelines, I think I could make a pretty good case that the UR program is a pretty good candidate for a new forum. If I get a bit more time later today, I might make a point-by-point case toward that end.

That's quite possibly true. But does that make the program any less legitimate? A program has to build itself somehow and quite possibly the folks at Chase understood that a good way to get this program off the ground is to do exactly what they're doing - offer large bonuses in a very lucrative program AND offer good cash to those promoting the card.

SkiAdcock

You'd probably help your case if you did so. As Rich mentioned, just because the other guy (Amex) has one isn't a strong enough case.

Cheers.

ramalama8

Agreed. That was a pretty weak reason.

lin821

My reply was to your question:
If you had taken time skimming the forum sticky before starting this very thread, you would have known the answers to your very own question. By the way you asked your question, it appears you didn't read nor know it existed. Those criteria were established in Feb 2009, after your FT join date, so I don't think you may say it's before "your time."

Nothing personal, but you are not the first and will not be the last FTer who proposes a new forum without reading the sticky. That's why I said what I said in post#18. Please understand the frustration among those of us who frequent TB Topics Forum and read threads that repeatedly do not follow the game plan set for this forum. Over the years, I have been pointing out that link numerous times to those who have ideas for new fora. I tend to point out making good arguments are the best way to sell a proposal. Shooting the messenger won't help.

Personally, I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to post in this forum to at least read the sticky thread/s. And I thought it's polite to say "if you have to ask" without assigning any blame, especially it is the 1st sticky thread with only 3, abeit long, posts. YMMV.

I am sure TBers will be looking forward to your thought-out proposal that addresses all those criteria when you find time. Good luck!

mia

In fairness note that the thread was started in Credit Card Programs and I moved it here, leaving a sticky pointer there. Other moderators may well have let the topic simmer in the home forum for awhile, and that might have been ramalama8's expectation. I'd like to get past the procedural hurdles and read a cross section of thinking about the proposal, because it should help us better manage the Credit Card Programs message base, regardless of Talkboard's decision. I learn more when others disagree with me .

lin821

I was/am aware of the original placement of this thread, mia. And kudos to your prompt action to move/merge threads, as always. ^

Not to be picky but if you put the discussion in chronological order, your mod note about moving is post#3, very early on for this discussion thread. Before I chimed in with post #14, OP had posted two more times after the move. Meaning OP not only got the headsup about the proper forum for the suggestion, but also kept providing input without reading the sticky thread in the new forum. I was merely pointing out savvy FTers expect folks to do their homework, no matter where OPs start their threads. But often, it's easy to just point and shoot. That's just one of our human flaws. Nothing we can do about it.

Enough for my OT and back-burner comments on human behavior. Let me turn the spotlight over to those who can make a good proposal out of this topic, so our TBers can start giving some serious thought on this.

boilers

My personal opinion would be not to establish an UR forum. It is still in its novice stages. A couple of years ago thank you points were the 'best' currency. I imagine UR will be a major player longer, but I don't think each issuer/reward currency should have its own forum.

sunk818

Organization by post volume seems like a good way. Whenever ur reaches that threshold I would think the posts could be moved there.

That is also to say that flyertalk has too many sub forums without enough activity and wondered why they split it. If the purpose is for branding organization, I get that... But I personally think its a waste of real estate. As a new visitor to the site, I was overwhelmed with the number of forums.

millere2

Looks like 4 hotel chain transfers now...the Ritz transfer is available and I have not seen that before, but maybe I overlooked it. Hyatt, PC, Marriott, and Ritz. Although I think you could use Marriott points at the Ritz anyway before? I never stay at either one so I am not sure.

bohlia123

Agree with most of the others. Chase UR isn't relevant enough...and comparing it to Amex is a bit ridiculous given their redemption options.