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florens Aug 10, 2017 2:51 am

Will there be a function, similar to quotes and mentions, that gives an overview over who liked one's posts?

halls120 Aug 10, 2017 4:13 am

this supposed "pro" is laughable:


Those with more likes/helpfuls are considered knowledgable
Quantity does not equal/represent quality. If the majority vote for a "like" button, will there be a way for the rest of us to mask the function for those who aren't interested in dumbing down this site and turning it into a Facebook clone?

Mwenenzi Aug 10, 2017 5:30 am


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 28664495)
Questions/answered:
* If implemented, can FTers who prefer not to utilize the like/helpful button turn it off so that they don't see it at all?

I doubt we would implement the "like" feature at all if it were not "always on," since making it user-selectable would largely defeat its purpose. Users can choose not to "like" anything.

The first thing I looked for was how to turn it off (just like have images and other things off)


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 28670819)
This is really annoying. All the times in the past when there has been any publicity, the consensus was that the "like" button was NOT something that was wanted. Now, it just gets implemented without any prominent mentions of this thread where it was being discussed, so few contributed their dislike of the "like."

Arrgh. Turn an adult forum into facebook-like junk.

Change for the sake of change following other sheep

kipper Aug 10, 2017 5:33 am


Originally Posted by Bowgie (Post 28670588)
I gave you a "like". Hope you appreciate the irony :)
I agree with mahasamatman. I don't have a Facebook account because I don't give a toot about what people like or don't like. I already know what *I* like.

I agree with you and mahasamatman.

I have a facebook account, but don't concern myself with what people like.

Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 28671551)
The first thing I looked for was how to turn it off (just like have images and other things off)

Change for the sake of change following other sheep

If you find a way to turn it off, please share with the rest of us.

SkiAdcock Aug 10, 2017 5:53 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 28669596)
We are about to roll out a like button. I'll be posting a global announcement. Once you use it, feel free to post your reaction and any glitches that you experience.

Carol
Community Director

With the utmost respect to you personally, this is totally ironic. Other than Talkmail 2 days ago there was no public announcement re: this feature & an opportunity for FTers to provide input. What was the point of TM asking for input when it was already determined that this was going to be implemented? That's one of the things I miss about TB - before we voted on a forum etc, we did public announcements asking for input from FTers. We didn't just implement things willy-nilly like IB has done w/ some of its 'enhancements'.


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 28670261)
Just my 2 cents...
  • I don't like that it shows who liked the post.
  • The list of who likes the post is distracting from the main text of the post.

Agree.


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 28670306)
How can I disable this? I find it useless and obtrusive.

Agree.


Originally Posted by FLYMSY (Post 28670360)
+1

+1

I wasn't in favor of a "Like" button and am less so after seeing it's highly distracting implementation.

Agree.


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 28670491)
Can I turn off the blasted xxx likes this banners? Really annoying.

Much as we'd like to, we can't - IB says it would 'defeat the purpose' - also, that IB basically doesn't care about providing an experience that would meet the needs of all its members - ie, those who would like to see the likes could do so; those who didn't want their viewing of FT disrupted could turn it off.


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 28670819)
This is really annoying. All the times in the past when there has been any publicity, the consensus was that the "like" button was NOT something that was wanted. Now, it just gets implemented without any prominent mentions of this thread where it was being discussed, so few contributed their dislike of the "like."

Arrgh. Turn an adult forum into facebook-like junk.

Agree.


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 28671392)
this supposed "pro" is laughable:

Quantity does not equal/represent quality. If the majority vote for a "like" button, will there be a way for the rest of us to mask the function for those who aren't interested in dumbing down this site and turning it into a Facebook clone?

That was one of my points in the 700 post thread in Talkboard. I'd seen people post totally inaccurate information on Milepoint & MarriottInsiders - and people liked the posts :rolleyes:

Also, the like button feature was implemented w/o a lot of input by FTers. IB didn't just come up w/ this overnight, but other than a very short thread (this one) started in May & an announcement 2 days ago in TalkMail, which didn't bring that many to this thread to post, there's been no public input sought by IB re: the feature.

Re: masking the feature. I think that's the best solution. Those who like likes (pardon the pun) can continue to see them. Those who don't want their viewing of FT disrupted could opt out. Both sides win. But evidently IB's not interested in a 'win-win'.


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 28671551)
The first thing I looked for was how to turn it off (just like have images and other things off)

Change for the sake of change following other sheep

Agree. Having the option to turn it off would be a win-win for those who don't want to see it, yet let those who do want to see it do so.


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 28671560)
I agree with you and mahasamatman.

I have a facebook account, but don't concern myself with what people like.

If you find a way to turn it off, please share with the rest of us.

There isn't. IB doesn't give two patooties about what we really like (pardon the pun) want. It will do what it wants to do. IBobi posted above as though some of what he posted was still under consideration, when he knew this was going live 2 days later. Very poor form.

Cheers.

kipper Aug 10, 2017 5:57 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 28671615)
There isn't. IB doesn't give two patooties about what we really like (pardon the pun) want. It will do what it wants to do. IBobi posted above as though some of what he posted was still under consideration, when he knew this was going live 2 days later. Very poor form.

Cheers.

I agree.

I'm not able to find the like button in OMNI.

nsx Aug 10, 2017 6:04 am


Originally Posted by GentleGiant (Post 28670888)
Never ask members whether they would like a feature. There are many that would prefer to live in the past and not progress as humans simply do not like change. ;)

"You kids get off my lawn!"

:D:D:D

SkiAdcock Aug 10, 2017 6:13 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 28671628)
I agree.

I'm not able to find the like button in OMNI.

They're turning it on forum by forum. It would be further ironic if it was not turned on in the Omnis ;) It should be; there's no rational reason for the Omnis to be excluded.


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 28671652)
"You kids get off my lawn!"

:D:D:D

I don't view this as a case of you kids get off my lawn - you'd need to speak for yourself on that one :p I view this as something that was implemented even though over the years it was basically a 50/50 split by FTers who wanted it & those who didn't.

And this time it was implemented without a public notice in advance to garner input (TM coming out a day before it was implemented isn't really a lot of public notice).

The best solution & a 'win-win' for all FTers is to make the feature an on/off as IB does with other features. Then those who would like to see likes could do so & those who don't want their FT viewing disrupted wouldn't have to see it. But IB has said point-blank that they're not interested in doing so - aka, tough patooties to those who don't like the like feature or find it disruptive.

Short of the like feature breaking down, the odds of this being deactivated are slim to zip - just like TB rarely closed forums, IB doesn't delete features.

Cheers.

nsx Aug 10, 2017 6:15 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 28671615)
IB doesn't give two patooties about what we really like (pardon the pun) want. It will do what it wants to do. IBobi posted above as though some of what he posted was still under consideration, when he knew this was going live 2 days later.

That's factually inaccurate. This has been SanDiego1K's decision all along. IB implemented a feature because she wanted to try it. IB would not have turned it on without her concurrence.

As to IB not caring about users' preferences, that could hardly be more wrong. There is no other website on the Internet where users have more influence than this one. I am counting SanDiego1K as a user because her charter is to optimize the user experience. Others are concerned with financial aspects, but as far as I know she doesn't deal with any of that. Not even search engine optimization. IB has spent money on features for us which have no direct or obvious financial benefit to them. That doesn't happen on other sites.

I trust SanDiego1K's judgment. She has earned our trust even more so than Randy. I don't believe that any of us could have done a better job since Randy left, and that includes Randy.

SkiAdcock Aug 10, 2017 6:24 am

Where did you take from my post that I was dissing sandiego1k? I wasn't; I have the utmost respect for her. Your response is bizarre IMO.

Although if this was truly her decision & she made it w/o input from FTers/implemented it w/ IB, I am disappointed.

Also, now that it has been implemented there are FTers asking for an opt-out because they find the like feature disruptive, especially in its current form. I would like to know, whether from sandiego1k or IB, if that option will ever be allowed (aka, a 'win-win') or if this is something a # of FTers are stuck w/. Just like TB rarely closed forums, IB doesn't usually delete a feature it's implemented.

Cheers.

Mary2e Aug 10, 2017 6:25 am

I don't mind a like button.... what I mind is that it shows who likes something.

DrBernardo Aug 10, 2017 6:29 am


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 28670819)
This is really annoying. All the times in the past when there has been any publicity, the consensus was that the "like" button was NOT something that was wanted. Now, it just gets implemented without any prominent mentions of this thread where it was being discussed, so few contributed their dislike of the "like."

Arrgh. Turn an adult forum into facebook-like junk.

+1,000

Please give us a way of turning this disruptive mess off!

oliver2002 Aug 10, 2017 6:39 am


Originally Posted by GentleGiant (Post 28670888)
Thank goodness the software behind the forum is so poor otherwise there would be many more modern features to annoy the minority.
We need to remember that today's youngsters will want to enjoy this site and get the same benefits as we do. The site has to be relevant to them as well.

If I remember correctly @Randy Petersen started out cyclostyling FFP tips and tricks and mailing them out. In that spirit, I suppose the FT purist should print out threads in plain ascii using a dot matrix or better line printer and read it on the porch. ;)

nsx Aug 10, 2017 6:46 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 28671712)
Where did you take from my post that I was dissing sandiego1k?

I didn't. Read it again. I would never want to upset one of my favorite people on FT! I just corrected your misperception that IB decided this.

But hey, it's early in the morning for both of us.

aztimm Aug 10, 2017 7:59 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 28671628)
I agree.

I'm not able to find the like button in OMNI.

There isn't a, "like," button in the Omnis...it is in SanDiego1K's forum-wide announcement:

FlyerTalk is rolling out a "like" icon across all of the forums except the Omnis.


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