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Silver Fox May 1, 2017 2:20 pm

Suggest FT add “Like” button [implemented 9 Aug 2017]
 
Can you implement a like button at the very least? Plenty of other forums have the and all sorts of other buttons such as: disagree, funny, informative, excellent topic, dislike, old.

We have all this other social media stuff so it makes perfect sense to implement this.

IBobi May 1, 2017 5:00 pm

It's been suggested many times but no community consensus has ever been reached that it is desired.

jackal May 1, 2017 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 28254049)
It's been suggested many times but no community consensus has ever been reached that it is desired.

TalkBoard is no more, so maybe we can take a fresh look at this. :)

JDiver May 2, 2017 9:32 am

As this fits in the Suggestion Box forum better than the Technical Support area, we are moving it there.

JDiver, Co-Moderator
Technical Support and Feedback and The Suggestion Box fora

Mary2e May 2, 2017 10:39 am

I would go for a like button, but for heaven's sake, no dislike button.

We tried it once before and it did not work out well at all.

Smaug May 2, 2017 10:23 pm

Here is the thread from TB Topics:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...ke-button.html

MSPeconomist May 5, 2017 12:00 pm

Please, let's not go there. It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.

jackal May 5, 2017 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 28272678)
It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.

Can you back that assertion up? That hasn't at all been my experience.

Silver Fox May 5, 2017 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 28272678)
Please, let's not go there. It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.

Seems to work well on other forums I visit. I would be interested to know how big a problem a like button can actually cause on the anonymous internet ! :)

Mary2e May 7, 2017 6:24 am

A like button is perfectly fine. It's the dislike, or any other negative emoticon that would be abused. And yes, it would be abused.

SanDiego1K May 7, 2017 9:47 am

I would support a Like button. I would not support a dislike button. I also would not support being able to see how many "likes" a member has received. We've had too many instances of folks trying to game ratings over the years.

Let me see what Internet Brands can do.

Carol/SanDiego1K
Community Director

gilbertaue May 8, 2017 12:14 am

How many more "+1" do we see here compared to "-1"??

So I would also support a 'Like' button.

goalie May 12, 2017 7:39 am

While I was against a like button in the last "go-around" ;), if it could be a like button showing the total number of likes but not showing the handles of the members who liked the posts, I could be persuaded to like having a like button

Mary2e May 12, 2017 7:43 am

I would not support seeing the number of likes. Only that it's liked.

Do you remember when the rating system was accidentally turned on along with the ability to see who gave the rating? The less ability to give people the chance to abuse, the better :)

jackal May 12, 2017 7:49 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 28302397)
While I was against a like button in the last "go-around" ;), if it could be a like button showing the total number of likes but not showing the handles of the members who liked the posts, I could be persuaded to like having a like button

You're one of the most like-happy people I know on Facebook. I'm trying to understand what your concept and opposition to a similar implementation here is. Can you expand?


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 28302422)
I would not support seeing the number of likes. Only that it's liked.

Do you remember when the rating system was accidentally turned on along with the ability to see who gave the rating? The less ability to give people the chance to abuse, the better :)

Like button != rating system

Without the ability to rate a post negatively, where is the danger of abuse?

Mary2e May 12, 2017 8:17 am

The abuse would be from FT friends rating their buddies whether they agree or not. Hey, this if FT, anything that can be abused will be abused :)

jackal May 12, 2017 8:24 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 28302597)
The abuse would be from FT friends rating their buddies whether they agree or not. Hey, this if FT, anything that can be abused will be abused :)

How would they be "rating" them?

Mary2e May 12, 2017 8:40 am

If you can see the number of likes, that's rating them. 2 people could post very similar things, yet one of them will have 30 likes and the other might have 1 or 2.

Collecting likes isn't too far from collecting points and miles :)

jackal May 12, 2017 9:42 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 28302712)
If you can see the number of likes, that's rating them. 2 people could post very similar things, yet one of them will have 30 likes and the other might have 1 or 2.

Collecting likes isn't too far from collecting points and miles :)

How is that "collecting" them, though?

As I'm scrolling through my Facebook news feed, I might (might, but often don't) notice that one post has 3 likes and another has 47.

But by the time I scroll down another screen and read other posts, I've completely forgotten how many likes the posts above had. So the number of likes is really without any consequence. It's not like Facebook is collecting and counting the number of likes and displaying it on the user's profile page...and I don't think anyone is proposing doing that here.

The way Facebook has implemented its system seems to work perfectly well, and the same system seems to work perfectly well on other sites (including MP/IF/whatever it's named this week). There's basically zero potential for contention. Why wouldn't that work here?

Mary2e May 12, 2017 9:51 am

For the reasons I stated in the post above yours. I also don't like it on MP/IF, though I rarely go there.

jackal May 12, 2017 10:15 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 28303026)
For the reasons I stated in the post above yours. I also don't like it on MP/IF, though I rarely go there.

"Collecting" implies that the number of likes are counted and assembled for display somewhere.

So likes aren't "collected." Unless you think some people are going to go by every thread on FT with a clipboard and tally all the likes up...

Mary2e May 12, 2017 10:35 am

That's what I was talking about... being able to see the number of likes.

Silver Fox May 12, 2017 12:00 pm

Crikey, I think you are over-thinking this likes stuff. Certainly I never saw it as a competition, on other forums I just click the like button if I like it, not because I know the person or not. And I have certainly never compared similar posts with the number of likes. For me it is simple, if I like the post I click "like". That's it.

SanDiego1K May 12, 2017 1:45 pm

This is under discussion with Internet Brands to see what can be offered.

Carol/SanDiego1K
Community Director

beckoa May 17, 2017 8:48 pm

I've thought about this before, but prefer the clean look of FT and think a like button would add unnecessary clutter and focus.

Silver Fox May 18, 2017 3:58 am


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 28326111)
I've thought about this before, but prefer the clean look of FT and think a like button would add unnecessary clutter and focus.

The News button didn't add unnecessary clutter did it? How do you envisage it damaging the clean look? :confused:

kipper May 29, 2017 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 28272678)
Please, let's not go there. It has been a big problem on MilePoint/InsideFlyer.

I agree with not going there, and also agree with Mary2e. When she and I agree, then, well, it's a little scary. :D

GUWonder Jun 9, 2017 7:30 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 28303142)
"Collecting" implies that the number of likes are counted and assembled for display somewhere.

So likes aren't "collected." Unless you think some people are going to go by every thread on FT with a clipboard and tally all the likes up...

I can already foresee how "likes" may be used to play games. For example, games around "liking" of an FTer being "suspended".

Kagehitokiri Jun 17, 2017 9:44 am

no member counter - very good idea >


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 28279569)
I also would not support being able to see how many "likes" a member has received.

interesting, i may have missed discussion of these >

no who liked >


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 28302397)
if it could be a like button showing the total number of likes but not showing the handles of the members who liked the posts, I could be persuaded to like having a like button

just "This Post is Liked" etc ? >


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 28302422)
I would not support seeing the number of likes. Only that it's liked.

also a good point, depending on options >


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 28326111)
prefer the clean look of FT and think a like button would add unnecessary clutter and focus.


nsx Jun 18, 2017 1:01 pm

I would prefer a Helpful button, with per-post count but no per-member count.

I see no great value and significant hazard in showing which members upvoted a post.

IMHO this mild user feedback rewards and therefore encourages posting behavior that pleases other members. I expect the forums to become more valuable and more fun to read when members are taking more care with their posts to earn praise counts.

I wish user feedback could be enabled on a forum-specific basis (e.g. not for for OMNI/PR) but apparently that would be difficult to implement. We might as well give it a try and see if the net value is positive.

Kagehitokiri Jun 18, 2017 4:56 pm

besides no counter (on post) - a random thought : there might be way to have some kind of variable indicator rather than counts of 200/2,000/etc, in other words do those kinds of high counts really add information after a certain threshold. not sure if any of that kind of thing is possible, or even if not having counter at all is possible.


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 28457802)
Helpful button, with per-post count but no per-member count.

I see no great value and significant hazard in showing which members upvoted a post.

if easily done, definitely seems a way to reduce potential games

GUWonder Jun 19, 2017 3:32 am


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 28457802)
I would prefer a Helpful button, with per-post count but no per-member count.

I see no great value and significant hazard in showing which members upvoted a post.

IMHO this mild user feedback rewards and therefore encourages posting behavior that pleases other members. I expect the forums to become more valuable and more fun to read when members are taking more care with their posts to earn praise counts.

I wish user feedback could be enabled on a forum-specific basis (e.g. not for for OMNI/PR) but apparently that would be difficult to implement. We might as well give it a try and see if the net value is positive.

If the owner/operator of FT wants to invest money in such a feature -- not that I expect it to do me any good, given alternative investment opportunities -- and then trial it, I suggest that OMNI threads are the best place on FT to see what it yields.

javabytes Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm

I support a Like button, to the extent that it stops people from posting "+1" or "^" replies, and actually reduces clutter. But that's all a Like system should be. Not a rating. No disliking. No scores visible for users.

gobluetwo Jun 26, 2017 9:21 am

I think a Like, Thumbs Up, or Helpful button would be fine. Would be interesting to see if others "like" the same types of posts I like, and it would reduce the +1 type posts.

- Don't also had a "dislike" or "thumbs down" or "not helpful" button.
- I'm ok with counts (25 likes to a post), but not points for users (gobluetwo has received 125 likes vs. javabytes has received 7,240 likes) which adds to a running total.
- Don't show who likes a particular post

nequine Aug 8, 2017 5:20 am

I enjoy reading the trip report section but don't always want to repeat myself saying the same thing, so I'd like a 'like' button so that I can acknowledge the work someone has done (and the time taken) to post a trip report.

Perhaps if its possible to do so, its on the member posting that see's how many (or not!) likes it has generated so it doesn't turn into a competition.

Silverswimmer Aug 8, 2017 5:21 am

I think a "Helpful" button rather than a "Like" button would be more meaningful.
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Mickidon Aug 8, 2017 5:22 am

Can someone please educate me about what having a like button would add to the experience? Most of the comments above seem to be lukewarm, and somewhat focused on what not to do. I don't have a horse in this race, but just can't fathom that the
addition of this is worth the investment in getting it added.

Churnman Aug 8, 2017 5:34 am

Like and Helpful buttons are fine with me and could help eliminate posts that just have +1, which is the only quick way members currently have of expressing their agreement with a post.

Baracuda618 Aug 8, 2017 5:36 am

No buttons
 
I think that a "like" or "dislike" button will cause too many hasty clicks rather than a well thought out post.

nittanylion1 Aug 8, 2017 5:41 am


Originally Posted by Mickidon (Post 28661999)
Can someone please educate me about what having a like button would add to the experience? Most of the comments above seem to be lukewarm, and somewhat focused on what not to do. I don't have a horse in this race, but just can't fathom that the
addition of this is worth the investment in getting it added.

It would be a validation that the post contains useful information, making it more valuable to newbies.

I like the idea of a like or helpful button. Agree that dislike is less useful, as that can be abused badly (have seen this on other boards).


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