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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 1:39 pm
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Took 48 hours to get a response on Sheraton Boston. Was approved for the current rate ($111) since the initial rate of $83 disappeared about 28h after submitting my claim. Makes quite a difference on a 3-night stay.
My new reduced rate (extra 20% off) is $88.80. Even though I don't expect any lower rates to be available, which rate would I compare it to? $111 or $88.8?
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Old Oct 27, 2017, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by klanfa
Took 48 hours to get a response on Sheraton Boston. Was approved for the current rate ($111) since the initial rate of $83 disappeared about 28h after submitting my claim. Makes quite a difference on a 3-night stay.
My new reduced rate (extra 20% off) is $88.80. Even though I don't expect any lower rates to be available, which rate would I compare it to? $111 or $88.8?
If you find a new low rate and want to BRG it, you need to make a new reservation and compare to the SPG rate at that time.

FWIW, I just got denied at about 48 hrs for a claim at the same hotel. It was for a very busy weekend and SPG prices were $350+/nt. Booking.com put the hotel on sale for half off, but it was a one-day sale. I knew the BRG desk wouldn't finish in time but figured I'd try anyway. I got denied as expected, but weirdly, the reason the India desk told me was that they couldn't find availability on Booking.com, not that the Booking.com price couldn't beat SPG. It's definitely there with lots of rooms available. They're the same price as SPG, but they're there.
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Old Oct 27, 2017, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by matravelguy
I got denied as expected, but weirdly, the reason the India desk told me was that they couldn't find availability on Booking.com, not that the Booking.com price couldn't beat SPG. It's definitely there with lots of rooms available. They're the same price as SPG, but they're there.
Interestingly I had a denial recently for Sheraton London and the reason was they couldn't find any availability, this was from the Cork office. I checked while in London and could still see the availability but a friend in Ireland checked and confirmed they could see no availability for the dates, so it does seem to be where you search from can affect what is shown!
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Old Oct 27, 2017, 12:20 pm
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36+ hours waiting, then...

Hotel Name: Le Meridien Parker New York
Arrival Date: 02/24/18
Departure Date: 02/27/18
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Standard Double
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: $316+
Competing Provider: Amoma
Competing Provider Room Rate: #216 +
Actual confirmed rate:$151+ (took 20%)

Have another couple BRG's pending. Did 2 of them in German language, see if they are quicker...
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Old Oct 27, 2017, 7:05 pm
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Submitted two separate claims within 15 minutes of each other. One was reviewed and denied at the 40hr mark (6 hours ago) and still nothing on the other.
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 11:48 am
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Took 62 hours -

Hotel Name: St. Regis Bali
Arrival Date: 04/xx/18
Departure Date: 04/xx/18 (6 nights)
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: St. Regis Suite
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: IDR 5,988,285 ($440 USD)
Competing Provider: getaroom.com
Competing Provider Room Rate: $400 USD
Actual confirmed rate:IDR 4,389,996 ($323 USD) (took 20%)
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 8:44 pm
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
Submitted two separate claims within 15 minutes of each other. One was reviewed and denied at the 40hr mark (6 hours ago) and still nothing on the other.
FWIW: response 22 hrs after the response from the first submission
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 8:48 pm
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Question: I have an accepted BRG rate for a night that I now need a second room. Can I submit another claim on a separate, new, reservation or does the presence of one acceptance for a night/stay preclude any further claims?

Unfortunately this new rate does not allow for a two room claim.

Thanks.
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 9:49 pm
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I think it won’t be accepted because of the one successful claim in one city per 7 days of official check in time rule.

However, if your successful claim for one Room was a flexible rate, keep hold of it then submit a new reservation for 2 rooms and do the BRG. If successful then cancel the reservation for one room that had a successful BRG claim. Then you’d be within the rules of one successful BRG claim per 7 days in the same city.

I am new to this but I think it will work.
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
Question: I have an accepted BRG rate for a night that I now need a second room. Can I submit another claim on a separate, new, reservation or does the presence of one acceptance for a night/stay preclude any further claims?

Unfortunately this new rate does not allow for a two room claim.

Thanks.
You can submit a second claim as long as you chose 20% off. I often have multiple overlapping claims in the same city while I decide what I want to keep.
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 11:01 pm
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Originally Posted by yorkboy24

However, if your successful claim for one Room was a flexible rate, keep hold of it then submit a new reservation for 2 rooms and do the BRG. If successful then cancel the reservation for one room that had a successful BRG claim. Then you’d be within the rules of one successful BRG claim per 7 days in the same city.
Unfortunately searching for 2 rooms doesn't bring up the same OTA rate, instead it skyrockets.

Originally Posted by margarita girl
You can submit a second claim as long as you chose 20% off. I often have multiple overlapping claims in the same city while I decide what I want to keep.
I was hoping you'd chime in with this answer. Thank you.

Edit: And irrelevant in this instance as the rate proved ephemeral. Easy come easy go.

Last edited by dsquared37; Oct 28, 2017 at 11:11 pm
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Old Oct 29, 2017, 3:24 am
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Was denied a BRG claim for hotelreservierung.de. They stated that it was a on request website. I've done several successful BRG claims last year with the same website..
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Old Oct 29, 2017, 3:35 am
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Originally Posted by kevinflyaway
Was denied a BRG claim for hotelreservierung.de. They stated that it was a on request website. I've done several successful BRG claims last year with the same website..
Originally Posted by uxb
Bad news folks...
Unfortunately, it's been like that for about 2 months. See post #861.
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Old Oct 29, 2017, 3:54 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
Unfortunately, it's been like that for about 2 months. See post #861.
O really. damn. Thanks!
Just found the same rate on galahotels
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by zibawal
can they price adjust their own rates down
Unfortunately, no. (Take a look at the wiki at the top of the thread; the very first bullet point mentions this.)

Also, I know it's a lot of formal language, but here are the BRG terms: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...ere/terms.html

• The Best Rate Guarantee does not apply to:
- Rates available on Starwood online or voice channels compared to Starwood online or voice channels (for example, comparisons to rates found on later searches on the same or different Starwood channels), including rates found on Starwood-affiliated, private label, or property standalone websites.
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