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Old Dec 25, 2011, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by CPRich
Yes, double points for 2 nights. So instead of 2 points per dollar you get 4 points per dollar. Then 1 more if you are PLT.

Yes, starts on January 9

Yes, Germany chose not to participate.

Please explain what part is unclear to you (I assume that's what Huuuh! means). And you definition of "promo" that this doesn't meet.

I will say that dropping the double points for a single night puts a crimp in my normal 25 stays/25 nights as early as possible strategy. I may have to work on my 65 nights to MR lifetime PLT and see what SPG comes up with next quarter(s).

My "huuuh" reflects my frustration about SPG. Again no promotion for me. And it is just ridiculous that again all German hotels are excluded
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by CPRich
Yes, Germany chose not to participate.
Germany CHOSE not to participate

Any idea why ?

Do they all belong to the same owner who has a different marketing strategy, is it a legal aspect ?
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by OliverM
My "huuuh" reflects my frustration about SPG. Again no promotion for me. And it is just ridiculous that again all German hotels are excluded
In same boat....nada for Q4 2011 and nada for Q1 2012 because Germany doesn't parcipate.

Good excuse to shop around....

Cheers..
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by geilux
Germany CHOSE not to participate

Any idea why ?

Do they all belong to the same owner who has a different marketing strategy, is it a legal aspect ?
It is up to individual properties to decide whether they want to participate or not as they are funding the extra points.
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 8:39 am
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LMFAO!

Some of these posts are too funny, and so predictable. I'm actually starting to get my jollies from all the whining and complaining and threatening every time *wood comes out with another promo!

Merry Christmas everyone.

Cheers,
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by daiseee
Pretty much the same as last year, less the 4 nights / quadruple points tier. yawn...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/starw...e-rewards.html
I'm actually pretty upset they left of the 4x portion. I (at least this year) will have 99% of my stays be 4 or 5 nights. Oh well. What I'm really worried about is what this means for Q2. I really hope it's not a stay based promo... I have two fairly high $$ stays that are several nights, not short hops. I really hope I can benefit from that one as much as I (know I) will benefit from this one.

As usual, though many are b*t*hing about how "horrible" this promo is, I for one love it and thank SPG for another opportunity to rack up the *points!
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDon
If Asia is excluded completely, why do they list

PAKISTAN
Sheraton Karachi Hotel

in the list of Non Participating properties?

The last time I looked, Pakistan was in Asia!!!!!

Can the lurkers please confirm if Asia is really excluded, or if it was just a typo (hope springs eternal!)

Last time I checked, *wood has always included PAK in it's Middle East region hotel directory. Like many global companies - such as those who have an 'EMEA' region (Europe, ME, Africa), the distinction is more divided along the lines of corporate regions, rather than geographic.

Same reason, I suppose, Aruba is in 'North America'.

Cheers,
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:07 am
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I guess this was not meant to be a promotion because as everyone felt, it is not one.

So let's think of a reasonable motive for Starwood to come up with this offer (aka joke)??!! hummmm I can only think of it as a deterrent to mattress run!! and even for this, it's a lousy offering as I would rather accumulate stay credit rather than a few extra points!

Merry Christmas everyone...
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:24 am
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T&Cs as of 12/25/2011

There is a disconnect, the T&Cs do not exclude Asia like the landing page does. No Asian properties are mentioned in the Nonparticipating Properties list. Therefore all Asian properties are particpating per the T&Cs. Note that in the URL it is called the "participating_hotels".

https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...ml?promoID=B1N

Earn up to triple bonus Starpoints with SPG Better by the Night.

Terms & Conditions

Registration: SPG® members must register online at SPG.com/bythenight by March 15, 2012, midnight Eastern Time. Registered members can earn bonus Starpoints® with every eligible stay between January 9, 2012, and April 8, 2012, (the "promotion period") at more than 750 participating properties only. A list of non-participating properties can be found at SPG.com/bythenight and is subject to change. A list of non-SPG-participating hotels can be found at SPG.com/t&c under section 5.1.
Earning: Registered members will earn double Starpoints for all eligible charges during stays of two consecutive nights at participating properties during the promotion period that post to their SPG account. Registered members will earn triple Starpoints for all eligible charges during stays of three or more consecutive nights at participating properties during the promotion period that post to their SPG account. A member who earns double Starpoints will earn an additional two Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent at a participating property during the promotion period (for a total of four Starpoints per dollar). An elite member still earns one extra Starpoint per eligible US$1 spent, regardless of any bonusing that occurs (for a total of five Starpoints per dollar). A member who earns triple Starpoints will earn an additional four Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent at a participating property during the promotion period (for a total of six Starpoints per dollar). An elite member still earns one extra Starpoint per eligible US$1 spent, regardless of any bonusing that occurs (for a total of seven Starpoints per dollar). The triple Starpoints for stays of three consecutive nights or longer are in lieu of, not in addition to, double Starpoints. There is no limit to the number of bonus Starpoints that can be earned during the promotion period.
Bonusing: Starpoints earned, whether double Starpoints or triple Starpoints, will post to the registered member's account within 2–4 weeks after the qualifying stay posts.
Eligible stays: An eligible stay is defined as two or more consecutive nights within the promotion period at any of the more than 725 participating properties paying an eligible rate in the same hotel, regardless of the number of check-ins or checkouts that occur and post to the member's Starwood Preferred Guest® account. Multiple rooms charged to the same member during the same stay will count as one stay. SPG-participating hotels and resorts and a description of qualifying rates can be found at SPG.com/t&c under program terms and conditions. See Section 4B.4 for the complete definition of Eligible Rates, but note that certain prepaid rooms where the booking is made through a third party (including but not limited to travelocity.com, expedia.com and orbitz.com) are not Eligible Rates and do not earn Starpoints or qualify toward promotional earnings.
Qualifications and Starwood terms: A definition of what comprises eligible charges can be found at SPG.com/t&c under section 5.3. All promotions are subject to the Starwood Preferred Guest program terms and conditions, which are subject to change without notice and can be found at SPG.com. Offer is applicable to individual members only and is not available to groups or Starwood employees. Not responsible for omissions or typographical errors. Starwood reserves the right to discontinue this offer at any time. To update your communication preferences or learn about our privacy practices, view our Privacy Statement on SPG.com/privacy, or call 1-877-782-0071 in the U.S. and Canada or +353-21-4930474 in all other countries to access our privacy information line. Starpoints, SPG, Preferred Guest, Sheraton, Four Points, W, Aloft, The Luxury Collection, Le Méridien, Element, Westin, St. Regis and their respective logos are the trademarks of Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, Inc., or its affiliates. Void where prohibited by law. © 2012 Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:27 am
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Landing page as of 12/25/2011

Note that Asia is not listed but no Asian hotels are in the Nonparticipating Properties list.
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...ml?promoID=B1N
Earn up to triple bonus Starpoints with SPG Better by the Night.

Register for our SPG® Better by the Night promotion and earn unlimited bonus Starpoints® even faster. With every stay from January 9 through April 8, 2012, at over 750 participating hotels and resorts in North and Latin America, Europe, Africa and the Middle East, you’ll earn:

Double Starpoints on two-night stays
Triple Starpoints on stays of three nights or longer

Register by March 15, 2012, and then book your stays to begin earning unlimited bonus Starpoints at all nine brands in the Starwood Preferred Guest® program. The longer you stay, the more bonus Starpoints you’ll earn.


Already a Starwood Preferred Guest member? Register now using your SPG number.
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Not a Starwood Preferred Guest member? You can join our complementary program and register for this promotion.
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As an SPG member, you’ll always earn two Starpoints per US dollar at over 1000 hotels and resorts in nearly 100 countries at 9 distinctive hotel brands, such as Sheraton®, Westin®, W® hotels, and St Regis®. Members can redeem Starpoints for Free Nights and Award Flights without blackout dates, in-hotel indulgences, room upgrades and more.

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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:29 am
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FAQs as of 12/25/2011

https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...romoID=B1N_FAQ

Earn up to triple bonus Starpoints with SPG Better by the Night.

Promotion FAQs

When can I register for the promotion?
An SPG® member must register by March 15, 2012, midnight Eastern Time, furthermore referred to as the "registration period."

Can anyone register for this promotion?
Any member may register at SPG.com/bythenight. A non-member may join the complimentary program and register simultaneously, also at SPG.com/bythenight.

What are the dates during which I can earn bonus Starpoints®?
Each registered member may earn bonus Starpoints for eligible stays from January 9, 2012, through April 8, 2012, furthermore referred to as the "promotion period."

At what properties am I eligible to earn bonus Starpoints?
A member may earn bonus Starpoints at more than 750 participating properties worldwide. To view the complete list of properties not participating in this offer, SPG.com/bythenightprops

How can I earn bonus Starpoints?
A registered member will earn double Starpoints for all eligible stays of two consecutive nights during the promotion period. A registered member will earn triple Starpoints for all eligible stays of three or more consecutive nights during the promotion period.

What qualifies as a Starpoints-eligible stay?
An eligible stay is any stay at an SPG-participating property paying a qualifying rate that earns Starpoints as defined by section 4B.4 of the SPG Terms & Conditions (SPG.com/t&c). Stays booked through prepaid third-party channels, such as Orbitz.com, Expedia.com, Travelocity.com, etc., are not eligible Rate Plans, and so the member may not earn Starpoints and will not qualify for any bonus offer.

How many Starpoints do I earn with double Starpoints?
A member will earn four total Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent. An elite member will continue to earn a 50% Starpoints bonus on his or her base earnings; this equals five Starpoints per US$1 spent.

How many Starpoints do I earn with triple Starpoints?
A member will earn six total Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent. An elite member will continue to earn a 50% Starpoints bonus on his or her base earnings; this equals seven Starpoints per US$1 spent.

Is there a limit to the number of bonus Starpoints I can earn?
No. Bonus Starpoints earnings for the SPG Better by the Night promotion are unlimited during the promotion period.

What qualifies as an eligible charge during my stay?
An eligible charge at a participating property is defined in Section 5 of the SPG Terms & Conditions (SPG.com/t&c).

Are the offer and promotion period the same across all participating properties?
Yes.

How many bonus Starpoints will I earn if I have a one-night stay at a participating property?
No bonus earnings through the SPG Better by the Night promotion would be earned; however, the member will earn the standard base earning of two Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent. An elite member will continue to earn a 50% Starpoints bonus on his or her base earnings; this equals three Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent.
How many bonus Starpoints will I earn if I stay four consecutive nights?
In this instance, the member will earn the triple Starpoints bonus; this equals six total Starpoints per eligible US$1 spent. An elite member will earn seven Starpoints per US$1 spent.
If I book two rooms for a stay of three consecutive nights, will I get triple Starpoints for each room consumed?
Yes, as long as both rooms are registered in the member’s name, are paid for by the member, and the member stays in one of the rooms. Registered members will receive triple Starpoints for all eligible charges as long as the stay occurs during the promotion period.

If I check in before January 9, 2012, or check out after April 8, 2012, does my stay earn the bonus?
Yes, as long as one night of the stay is within the promotion period, double or triple bonus Starpoints will be earned on every night during the entire stay (even if part of the stay falls outside the promo window).
Will I earn credit for nights consumed before my registration date?
As long as a member registers by March 15, 2012, all eligible stays during the promotion period will qualify for the SPG Better by the Night promotion.

If part of my stay has an Award Night or a night using Cash & Points, will my stay qualify?
No. Free Night Awards and Cash & Points are not Starpoints-eligible rates. Even if part of the stay is Award and part is paid, the member will not receive bonus credits for any part of the stay.

How soon will my bonus Starpoints post to my account?
Bonus Starpoints will post to the member's account within 2-4 weeks of the eligible stay's posting.

I booked a stay prior to January 9, 2012, but it occurs within the promotion period. Am I eligible to earn bonus Starpoints?
Yes, as long as the member registers for the promotion by March 15, 2012, and stays at a participating property within the promotion period, they will earn bonus Starpoints.

Will I earn stay and night credits toward elite status?
A member will earn stay and night credits as he or she normally does while earning bonus Starpoints.

Can I take advantage of other bonus Starpoints promotions at the same time?
Yes. However, each promotion provides bonus Starpoints independently of each other.


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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by Flews
LMFAO!

Some of these posts are too funny, and so predictable. I'm actually starting to get my jollies from all the whining and complaining and threatening every time *wood comes out with another promo!

Merry Christmas everyone.

Cheers,
Different promos appeals to different people.Fora person who usually has multiple nights per each stay this is a nice benefit of cause to those of us that usually dont have a Stay that is longer then 1 night = nothing to crow about.

So not every promo will appeal to every person. Although I wont be registering for this promo, I think its nice that SPG is thinking and benefiting those who have multiple nights per stay
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:37 am
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This promo doesn't really work for me, but that's life. I usually find that between HHonors and SPG I have a couple of decent promo periods across both and then a couple of quieter periods when neither program has anything that excites me.

It doesn't look like HHonors has anything to write home about in Q1 either, so I'll just stick to the properties that work the best for me, or I'll be redeeming more on leisure stays during this time.

If this period doesn't suit you, there's a good chance the next one might be more to your liking and vice versa. No need to throw a public tantrum or make threats of moving your business from this day forward. Just take a pragmatic view and do what suits you during the coming months. It isn't personal, just business.
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:38 am
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Nonparticipating Property List as of 12/25/2011

Note that no Asian hotels are on this list,


https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...ml?promoID=B1N

Earn up to triple bonus Starpoints with SPG Better by the Night.

SPG Better by the Night – Nonparticipating Property List
The below properties are not participating in the SPG® Better by the Night promotion.

ALGERIA
Le Méridien Oran Hotel & Conference Center
Sheraton Oran

AUSTRIA
Schloss Fuschl, A Luxury Collection Resort & Spa, Fuschlsee-Salzburg
Sheraton Fuschlsee Salzburg Hotel Jagdhof

ARGENTINA
Sheraton Mar del Plata

BRAZIL
Sheraton Barra
Four Points Curitiba

CANADA
Sheraton Cavalier Saskatoon

CHAD
Le Méridien Chari

CHILE
Sheraton Miramar

COLOMBIA
Four Points Cali
Four Points Medellin

EGYPT
Sheraton Cairo Hotel, Towers and Casino

EL SALVADOR
Sheraton Presidente San Salvador

FRANCE
Prince de Galles, Paris

GERMANY
Four Points by Sheraton Muenchen Olympiapark
Four Points by Sheraton Muenchen Central
Four Points by Sheraton Brauneck
Le Méridien Grand Hotel Nuernberg
Dom Hotel
Le Méridien Parkhotel Frankfurt
Le Méridien Munich
Le Méridien Stuttgart
Sheraton Frankfurt Congress Hotel
Sheraton Offenbach Hotel
Sheraton Munich Arabellapark Hotel
Sheraton Munich Westpark Hotel
Sheraton Munich Airport Hotel
Arabella Sheraton Alpenhotel
Sheraton Essen Hotel
Sheraton Hanover Pelikan Hotel
The Westin Grand Frankfurt
The Westin Grand Munich
The Westin Grand Hotel Berlin
The Westin Bellevue Dresden

GREECE
Hotel Grande Bretagne, Athens
Vedema Resort
Blue Palace Luxury Collection Resort and Spa
Mystique, Santorini
The Romanos, Costa Navarino
Santa Marina Resort & Villas, Mykonos
Sheraton Rhodes Resort
The Westin Resort, Costa Navarino

HUNGARY
Le Méridien Budapest

IRELAND
Sheraton Athlone Hotel

ITALY
Gritti Palace
Hotel Pitrizza, Costa Smeralda
Hotel Romazzino, Costa Smeralda
Hotel Cala di Volpe, Costa Smeralda
Sheraton Diana Majestic
The Westin Palace Milan

JORDAN
Sheraton Amman Al Nabil Hotel & Towers

LEBANON
Four Points by Sheraton Bhamdoun
Four Points by Sheraton Le Verdun

LITHUANIA
Le Méridien Vilnius

MAURITIUS
The Grand Mauritian Resort & Spa

MEXICO
Sheraton Ambassador Monterrey

NIGERIA
Sheraton Lagos Hotel

OMAN
Sheraton Oman Hotel

PAKISTAN
Sheraton Karachi Hotel

RUSSIA
Le Méridien Moscow Country Club

SAUDI ARABIA
Le Méridien Jeddah
Sheraton Jeddah Hotel
Sheraton Riyadh Hotel & Towers
Sheraton Dammam Hotel & Towers
The Westin Jeddah

SPAIN
Hotel Maria Cristina, San Sebastian
Castillo Hotel Son Vida, Palma de Mallorca
Hotel Alfonso XIII, Seville
Sheraton Mallorca Arabella Golf Hotel
Sheraton La Caleta Resort & Spa
St. Regis Mardavall, Mallorca

SWITZERLAND
Hotel President Wilson

SYRIA
Le Méridien Lattakia
Sheraton Aleppo Hotel
Sheraton Ma'aret Sednaya Hotel & Resort
Sheraton Damascus Hotel

TURKEY
Le Méridien Istanbul Etiler
Sheraton Ankara Hotel and Convention Center
Lugal, A Luxury Collection Hotel Ankara
Sheraton Cesme

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Four Points by Sheraton Sheikh Zayed Road
Le Méridien Dubai
Le Méridien Fairway
Le Méridien Mina Seyahi Beach Resort & Marina
Le Royal Méridien Beach Resort & Spa
Le Méridien Al Aqah Beach Resort
Grosvenor House
Sheraton Dubai Creek Hotel and Towers
The St. Regis Abu Dhabi
The Westin Dubai Mina Seyahi Beach Resort & Marina

UNITED KINGDOM
The Lanesborough, a St. Regis Hotel

UNITED STATES
Aloft Charlotte Ballantyne
Aloft Frisco
Aloft Las Colinas
Aloft Milwaukee Downtown
Aloft Phoenix-Airport
Aloft Plano
Cove Haven Resort
Four Points by Sheraton Destin Fort Walton Beach
Four Points by Sheraton Charlotte-Pineville
Four Points by Sheraton Edmonton Gateway
Four Points by Sheraton Edmonton West
Four Points by Sheraton Jacksonville Beach
Four Points by Sheraton Louisville Airport
Four Points by Sheraton Newark
Four Points by Sheraton Punta Gorda Harborside
Four Points by Sheraton Tallahassee Downtown
Four Points by Sheraton Norwalk
Four Points by Sheraton San Jose
Le Parker Méridien Palm Springs
Paradise Stream Resort
Pocono Palace Resort
Sheraton Bellevue
Sheraton Grand Sacramento
Sheraton Mahwah Hotel
Sheraton Metairie – New Orleans Hotel
Sheraton Reston Hotel
Sheraton Salt Lake City Hotel
Sheraton Suites Key West
SLS Hotel at Beverly Hills
Sunset Key Guest Cottages
The St. Regis Deer Valley
The St. Regis Atlanta
THE US GRANT
The Westin Bellevue
The Westin Bonaventure Hotel & Suites
The Westin Edina Galleria
The Westin Galleria Houston
The Westin Houston, Memorial City
The Westin Imagine Orlando
The Westin Key West Resort Marina
The Westin Los Angeles Airport
The Westin Reston Heights
The Westin Riverfront Mountain Villas
The Westin South Coast Plaza
The Westin Tampa Harbour Island
Vistana's Beach Club
W San Diego
W Silicon Valley
Walt Disney World Dolphin
Walt Disney World Swan

URUGUAY
Sheraton Colonia

YEMEN
Sheraton Sana'a Hotel

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Old Dec 25, 2011, 9:48 am
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Did you miss the fact that sfozrhfco posted that way back in Post #5?
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