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rurouni212 Jan 28, 2012 9:45 am

Already started

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-...ting-down.html

josmon10 Jan 28, 2012 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 17900209)
I seem to be about the only FTer who liked their lounge at BCN

Not a great one, but still OK.

A few years ago I had the vision to join M&M instead of Spanair Plus, but with my Silver elite I could only access the lounge when flying LX, not any other *A airline or even JK, something which really pissed me off.

Being the only *A one in Barcelona. I wonder who's going to handle it now.



Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter (Post 17900334)
i.e. a typical Spanish airline :p

As a Spaniard, I'm sad to admit you're right. I'd go as far as to say, though, that Vueling is a good LCC, but since IB got behind it after the merger with Clickair, their hands have been tied on many occasions.



Originally Posted by santarosaflyer (Post 17902120)
But still, they had great one-way prices and their service were several steps above Ryanair.

I'll miss them, especially on routes like BCN-ALG. I've flown to Algeria several times lately, and the only other carrier operating this route is Air Algérie, which has to be the worst airline I've flown with! (and accordingly to my Flight Memory, there are 84 other companies I can compare them to...).



Originally Posted by santarosaflyer (Post 17902120)
Doubtful that LH would waste money on a LH Espana.

I had also thought about the possibility of LH España, but LH already refused buying JK some time ago, and LH Italia didn't turn out to be a great idea. But with over 200k Germans living in Spain, and many more travelling to Spain (and especially Majorca) on a regular basis, I guess that LH should try to make the most of the JK demise and the void that *A has in Spain now. They should also try to regain some of the customers that AB has taken from them.

asterion Jan 28, 2012 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter (Post 17900334)
i.e. a typical Spanish airline :p

really, how many airlines in the garlic-belt are well-managed?
bankruptcy and reconstruction is the way forward.
not only for airlines...

As opposed to well-managed BA, I suppose...
What killed JK was the AVE high-speed train. Cheaper, faster and less stressful. Luckily for BA domestic operations, we have such a crap railway service.

100countrygoal Jan 28, 2012 10:47 pm

Thank goodness!! I had been considering an award ticket that would include Spanair just a bit ago!

Hope all the employees, etc. land on their feet as much as possible.

zigzagg900 Jan 28, 2012 11:30 pm

Looks like SAS saw this coming when they divested much of their stake in 2009. From what I read talks with Qatar were unsuccessful prompting the immediate shutdown. !Que lastima!

GuyverII Jan 28, 2012 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by 100countrygoal (Post 17907078)
...

Hope all the employees, etc. land on their feet as much as possible.

They probably won't. Economically this is the worst I've seen Spain. It's going to be a miracle for the Rajoy gov't to dig out of this hole the Socialists left the country in.

Spanair has only been able to rebook on other carriers 1/3 of the 22,000 passengers trying to get where they need to be.

Not good.

kirky Jan 29, 2012 1:15 am


Originally Posted by asterion (Post 17906492)
Luckily for BA domestic operations, we have such a crap railway service.

....plus of course in the UK, the train will usually be considerably more expensive than the plane anyway!!

Work that one out!

Passmethesickbag Jan 29, 2012 1:35 am


Originally Posted by zigzagg900 (Post 17907205)
Looks like SAS saw this coming when they divested much of their stake in 2009.

Yes, I thought that bit seemed quite clever until it was pointed out to me in the SK forum that they sold 80% of the stock for €1!

NickB Jan 29, 2012 2:10 am


Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag (Post 17907459)
Yes, I thought that bit seemed quite clever until it was pointed out to me in the SK forum that they sold 80% of the stock for €1!

Still better than pumping yet more money in the airline and still losing your investment at the end of the day.

Mauricio23 Jan 29, 2012 2:17 am


Originally Posted by asterion (Post 17906492)
What killed JK was the AVE high-speed train. Cheaper, faster and less stressful.

This is a myth that refuses to die. The AVE costs about twice as much as air travel between Barcelona and Madrid.

It is also not faster - at best same door to door time. The AVE in BCN leaves from Sants. Depending where in the city you live, it's not a whole lot slower to get to the airport (especially by taxi).

Finally, if you have anything more than a carry-on bag, the AVE is lot more cumbersome.

Overall more comfortable and less stressful? Sure. But neither cheaper nor faster.

more4less Jan 29, 2012 2:29 am


Originally Posted by Mauricio23 (Post 17907546)
This is a myth that refuses to die.

+1

If it was true, IB should also be bankrupted.

Last but not least, the shuttle Bcn-Mad represented probably less than 5% of JK flights.

X2921294H Jan 29, 2012 3:16 am

Here they go my Spanair Star Point, A* legs and all the boarding passes and passenger receipts I sent to the customer service center in Palma last week :-(

And I thought Spanair Star would be my fast solution to become *G ...

Any idea if *A offers a solution for that?

PVDtoDEL Jan 29, 2012 6:12 am


Originally Posted by X2921294H (Post 17907667)
Here they go my Spanair Star Point, A* legs and all the boarding passes and passenger receipts I sent to the customer service center in Palma last week :-(

And I thought Spanair Star would be my fast solution to become *G ...

Any idea if *A offers a solution for that?

A3, OZ, TK. Take your pick

Hannibal Lecter Jan 29, 2012 7:57 am

The *A lounges in BCN, MAD etc. were operated by Spanair, does anyone
know if this will affect them as well?

To make things worse for people stranded somewhere in Spain, Iberia pilots
will strike tomorrow.

studyolic Jan 29, 2012 8:22 am

I wonder how this will affect SQ's fifth-freedom operation between BCN and GRU. I seem to recall reading that approval for this route was dependent on code-sharing with Spanair. Is there any truth in that?


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