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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 8:54 pm
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*A update Dec 2011

http://www.centreforaviation.com/ana...n-of-eva-64664

Above article is a good summary of what to expect next year coming from ADD this week with the possible addition of BR.
  • BR *A announcement expected in coming months in Taipei
  • BR to be sponsored by CA
  • More Chinese members expected mostly CA subsidiaries
  • 3 top priorities for new CEO, namely China, India and Russia

Not mentioned in article:
  • No mention of Australia as white spot
  • Likely multiple current member exits
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by Xiaotung
Likely multiple current member exits
Likely according to whom?
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 8:20 am
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Likely according to whom?
JJ, TP, BD, JK are all possible, and I wouldn't be surprised by more than 2 of that group going.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 8:22 am
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I would be a seriously happy chappy if they got an Aussie partner but who? VB is clearly aligned with VX, Tiger is a small cheap (sometimes grounded!) carrier...
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 10:45 pm
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I would be a seriously happy chappy if they got an Aussie partner but who? VB is clearly aligned with VX, Tiger is a small cheap (sometimes grounded!) carrier...
DJ is also aligned with NZ and SQ. They are *A best and only hope for an Australian carrier.
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 6:06 am
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DJ/VA would indeed be a good match and would fill the *A Australia 'hole'. Virgin Australia being in *A would offer more global options to Velocity members than the current ad hoc arrangements.

In fact the various Virgin airlines globally would collectively be a good match for *A - while they all have their own separate FFPs, they already reciprocate between them.
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 6:15 am
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DJ/VA would indeed be a good match and would fill the *A Australia 'hole'. Virgin Australia being in *A would offer more global options to Velocity members than the current ad hoc arrangements.

In fact the various Virgin airlines globally would collectively be a good match for *A - while they all have their own separate FFPs, they already reciprocate between them.
I doubt UA/CO or US would be too happy with VX joining *A....
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JJ just joined but their merger with LA can make this a reality in the near future .

TP will first be privatized, and the new alliance will be determined, based on who buys it. There's been interest both from IAG (BA-IB), LATAM (what would the new carrier be called then TAPLATAM or LATAMAP?) and one of the gulf airlines.


JK has a lot of codesharing with LH, but that can end quickly. They are in a bad financial state and just had a big illegal inflow of cash from the Catalan gov't.
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 6:16 am
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I doubt UA/CO or US would be too happy with VX joining *A....
If US merges with AA and leaves *A, then you'd have a hole to fill. B6 is also partly owned by LH so there's a possibility there too. However LH partly owns other LCCs who are not in *A
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal
If US merges with AA and leaves *A, then you'd have a hole to fill. B6 is also partly owned by LH so there's a possibility there too. However LH partly owns other LCCs who are not in *A
I thought LH already sold its stakes in B6. With or without US, VX won't add much to *A in NA because it's in direct competition with UA/CO on most, if not all, routes.

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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal
If US merges with AA and leaves *A, then you'd have a hole to fill. B6 is also partly owned by LH so there's a possibility there too. However LH partly owns other LCCs who are not in *A
COUA is the biggest airline in the world. Bigger than AA, bigger than DL. They've got the USA more than covered. US is called the "ugly girl" for a reason... (for the record, US is my airline of choice when I'm in America)

US needs to go on a merger spree and get bigger, or they're going to get left behind. AS, F9, HA, all are good targets. AA, not so much..
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal
If US merges with AA and leaves *A, then you'd have a hole to fill.
No hole at all.
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