Originally Posted by Polytonic (Post 34883539)

I think the two main choices to consider if trying to also redeem on the JFK-FRA route:

1) LH given the 6x JFK-FRA in J (assuming P fares). It's the only way to access LH premium cabin awards outside of the 14 day window. With the upcoming changes to Miles & More rewarding flying on LH metal, by my math, for the 2000 qualifying points required (with 50% LH metal requirement), your client would earn SEN (*G) after the 5th return (at 200 points per international biz segment).

2) SQ as the distance based option, with LH P fares earning 125% distance flown, and UA P fares at 100% of distance flown, and there's no metal requirement. The 7713mi JFK-FRA RT earns 9641mi, so Krisflyer Gold halfway through the 6th trip. Some upsides to this: access to SQ premium cabin award space, especially on the (relatively easy to book) JFK-FRA route. The dual-track PPS Club qualification is helpful considering the level of premium cabin spend (discount vouchers, etc.)

I wouldn't rule out UA on spend if you can ticket the LH segments on 016 stock though. Considering your average TATL JV ticket runs $3400ish, I think that'd be around 3250 PQP per roundtrip, so you could hit Gold on PQP alone within 4 trips. Add United Club membership (or credit card) for domestic lounge access if desired, but I think you already know the sorry state of UCs.

Originally Posted by whuuut (Post 34890769)

Basically debating whether to switch from Air Canada to United. Seems like Aeroplan has somewhat of a bad rep through word of mouth, and through personal experience eUpgrades are a bit of a pain imo. If there's an updated thread comparing the two I would appreciate being directed to it. It seems at least based on segments, it is much faster to reach the top tier for United vs. AC: 1k (54 segments) vs SuperElite (100 segments). Maybe I'm missing some other key considerations?

(1) What is your home airport? YOW
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y, B
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 25k in miles, 60ish segments
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Aeroplan 50k
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Frequent upgrades on travel, free lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Can-US transborder short haul flights
(7) Preferred Airlines: Air Canada, United
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? work and pleasure, can choose my airline, up to premium economy
Other considerations:

• Credit Card - Aeroplan CC, although work flights are not charged to this personal card, the occasional award segments does come in handy
• Credit Card - AMEX rewards card, seems like it even though United is not a transfer partner there are workarounds to still redeem with United
• Aeroplan point pooling - Infrequent flyers added to my pool, I will be the only one redeeming

Appreciate any thoughts/inputs!

Originally Posted by whuuut (Post 34890769)

Basically debating whether to switch from Air Canada to United. Seems like Aeroplan has somewhat of a bad rep through word of mouth, and through personal experience eUpgrades are a bit of a pain imo. If there's an updated thread comparing the two I would appreciate being directed to it. It seems at least based on segments, it is much faster to reach the top tier for United vs. AC: 1k (54 segments) vs SuperElite (100 segments). Maybe I'm missing some other key considerations?

(1) What is your home airport? YOW
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y, B
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 25k in miles, 60ish segments
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Aeroplan 50k
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Frequent upgrades on travel, free lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Can-US transborder short haul flights
(7) Preferred Airlines: Air Canada, United
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? work and pleasure, can choose my airline, up to premium economy
Other considerations:

• Credit Card - Aeroplan CC, although work flights are not charged to this personal card, the occasional award segments does come in handy
• Credit Card - AMEX rewards card, seems like it even though United is not a transfer partner there are workarounds to still redeem with United
• Aeroplan point pooling - Infrequent flyers added to my pool, I will be the only one redeeming

Appreciate any thoughts/inputs!

Originally Posted by pdxerinsaarland (Post 34884662)

So based on the general info I've gathered, I'm on the fence about A3 vs TK vs SAS (ranked in that order). I'm looking for an alternative to Asiana Club as an exit strategy when/if the merger finalizes so I can have a way to keep *A Gold benefits.

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.) ex-EU (LUX, CDG, FRA) +250 miles (AMS, BRU, RTN, CPH, ARN and further if price it's a good deal), PDX for US
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) Discounted business (if I can spend ~$1500 or less) otherwise Prem Econ (especially those $600-$700 TATL ones); Discounted economy for connectors to hubs
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? enough EQM to maintain OW Emerald with either AS or BA and Asiana Diamond; so approx. 60-70K in OW? 40K-50K (over 2 yers for *A?)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? BA Silver/Gold, AS MVPG75K, Asiana Club Diamond
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? IRROP support, lounge access, priority check-in/security lane, ability to choose better seats when flying economy, award redemption for booking otherwise expensive destinations (so interesting sweet spots on the redemption side would be something I consider)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) 1-2x ex-EU to SE/E Asia, 2-3x TATL (with 1-2x hops to S.Am and/or C.Am.), intra-Eu for connecting and intra US (West Coast)
(7) Preferred Airlines Anything with a lie-flat for flights > 5hrs; accommodating rules for changes/cancellation (i.e. generous rerouting rules/contract of carriage when they cancel/change flight schedule). This is important to me as I got burned with UA-ticketed and AA-ticketed flights before when they couldn't find an alternative airport within 100 miles and decided to refund my heavily discounted business class ticket 1 week prior to departure during peak travel season :( Granted that was during covid with limited routing, but BA for e.x. allowed rerouting from AMS to FRA with no fare difference in these situations.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? I can choose airlines.

I can fly more *A flights to meet qualification requirements as with AS being part of OW now, I probably don't need to keep re-qualifying for both AS and BA. I've noticed though that with many discounted business fare classes (e.g. Luftansa P), they earn 0% miles. Perhaps someone has an insight that could help me decide which of the these 3 programs I'm considering would be most easily maintainable without having to do mileage runs? Thank you in advance!

Originally Posted by tour4fun (Post 34936434)

1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.) BKK
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) C
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k) 25-50k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc) A3 Gold
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) priority and lounge
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) BKK to LHR, BKK to DXB, BKK to LAX
(7) Preferred Airlines none specific, just need lie flat beds
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, cla… Show more » work

Originally Posted by tour4fun (Post 34939193)

i have enough points till 2024 for aegean gold. can start building points on another airline

Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 34947881)

I am now looking for a change too. I have to fly AC on a short domestic sector no matter what to get to YYZ or YUL. Then I normally fly BR. I have a G with BR now and when the flight is full in PE they do UG me to business. But BR has an expiring points system and no matter how often I fly a certain number of points is going to expire.
Should I change to AC? I like the AC, PE as it has only 2 -3-2 on their 787s while BR has no PE. Plus on AC you can bid for UGs and also use points. Does the points in AC, expire too each month like in BR? The service is obviously not as good as BR in my opinion.
If the miles in BR did not expire each month I would have had been over 100k by this time. I fly more than enough to keep my status. I am looking for airlines that has Premium Economy and I do not want to fly to USA just to fly to Asia, which is where I normally fly. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you

Originally Posted by angetenar (Post 34953066)

There is a difference between the airline you fly and the airline that you accrue status with. Even if you continue flying BR, you can credit your flights to AC. However, do be aware that you will always get the most benefits of status with the airline that you accrue it with.

Are you usually flying to TPE? If you want to fly from Canada to East Asia without stopping in the US, then your *A options will be ANA, Air Canada, EVA, Asiana, and Singapore. Depending on where you go, these may be of varying value to you. ANA, Air Canada, and Singapore all have premium economy cabins I believe.

Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 34953585)

Thank you and yes I know that about accruing status and I fly to BKK normally and fly with EVA because of their PE fares. My question is does all other airlines also have expiring points too like EVA has? I have flown on AC PE but they used to fly only to ICN and on the return the layover is over 10 hours.

Originally Posted by angetenar (Post 34953633)

UA: no expiration
Air Canada: expiration after 18 months of no activity
ANA: 3 years after earning unless diamond status (similar to EVA)
SQ: same as EVA
Consider flying EVA/ANA/Thai and crediting to UA/Air Canada.