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Mwenenzi Dec 6, 2021 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 33790769)
Can you use points on one FFP in Star alliance to upgrade on another Star Alliance member? I have lots on EVA but they do not fly so was thinking if I could use them on AC?

Yes, subject to many t&c's.
https://www.staralliance.com/en/redeem

Star Alliance Upgrade Awards
Use your miles or points to upgrade your travel experience
With a Star Alliance Upgrade Award you can use accumulated miles or points to "pay for" an upgrade, allowing you to fly in a class of travel that is one higher than your original booking. This award is applicable across all 26 member airlines. Star Alliance is the only alliance to offer this benefit between all its airlines.

How to upgrade:
  • You must have a ticketed reservation in an upgradeable booking class to request a Star Alliance Upgrade Award with your Frequent Flyer Programme. Check their website to find out how many miles are required to pay for the upgrade and which booking classes are upgradeable.
  • Your reservation must show the flight number of the airline operating the flight.
  • Star Alliance Upgrade Awards are not available on codeshare flights. Star Alliance Upgrade Awards are not guaranteed and may not be available on all flights. Please check the special terms and conditions on the website of your Frequent Flyer Programme.
  • Miles that you use will be deducted from your account.
  • Requests must be made at least 24 hours prior to departure to allow for the partner carrier to respond to the upgrade request. Use the online form of your Frequent Flyer programme to request a Star Alliance Upgrade Award.

UA thread on this topic--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...-carriers.html

hype7 Dec 8, 2021 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 33790394)
Hype7 Welcome to FT

Thank you!!


How long will you be living in Singapore? A few years or for ever?
At least 2 years, likely longer though.


With non USA airlines upgrades (with ff miles or free) are far less than with USA airlines. With non USA airlines always expect to fly in the cabin you buy.
Are you a ff member of a Oneworld airline (AA, CX. QF etc)
Had a lot of mileage with Qantas… have lifetime silver with them still.


Be careful with expiry. SQ have ff miles have a hard expiry. Use than or loose them.
I can live with that, especially if those miles get me upgrades!

Thanks again :)
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stupidhead Dec 15, 2021 11:15 am

Since Asiana's merger with KE is looking more and more like a lock, it looks like I need to jump ship to another *A FFP....

(1) What is your home airport? DFW/DAL OR Bay Area-ish (SFO, SJC, MRY)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? PE on international, J if I can swing it, Y on domestic. I pay for Y+ on UA when flying with my cat.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? varies, but typically a couple long trips a year plus some domestic flying. Covid screwed things up. Open to buying miles to retain/earn status.
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Asiana Diamond
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge Access, Free bags when flying domestic, priority services. An occasional upgrade would be nice. Good premium redemptions.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often DFW - Bay Area, DFW/SFO-Europe/Asia, open to repositioning to NYC or IAH if the numbers make sense.
(7) Preferred Airlines
  • TPAC - Singapore Airlines, United (when the $ makes sense), ANA, Asiana(soon to be no longer *A)
  • TATL - Probably Singapore (IAH-MAN), Turkish, LH seems to have good fares across the pond ex-DFW sometimes
  • Domestic - United - it's not like I have a choice here
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
  • Work - I book my own flights so can choose within reason. Work travel's been...er....sparse. Covid again. Hoping it'll pick up in '22.
  • Pleasure - mostly out of pocket so yes.
Looked at switching to OW or SkyTeam when I moved here, but it looks like *A meets my needs the best (AA seems to have a meltdown here whenever there's inclement weather and DL's fares are ludicrous at times).

My gut says TK (maybe UA? w/ a credit card) but I figured I might as well ask. I churn credit cards for fun and the UA chase card's been on my radar for a while.

EU-US Dec 15, 2021 1:11 pm

Hi - looking for a recommendation...

Used to fly a lot, but nothing at all during last 2 years - starting to travel again. I can see from a quick look that my info is outdated and the programs changed too.

I have 2 flights booked ATM, an AMS-LAX return in biz leaving on 31 Dec, 2021 (I know... is there a program that will give me credit for 2022 status for a Dec 31 flight?) and an Etihad biz return trip AMS-BOM in January, but they aren't in any alliance so I may only be able to get milage credit on AA as they are a partner airline for Etihad.

(1) What is your home airport? AMS
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Usually the cheapest biz ticket on any airline that has a decent long haul biz product
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 50-100k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Nope - zero flights for the last 2 years
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?Upgrades on long haul flights is my absolute top priority, so I want to switch to the program that will give me the most milage or voucher upgrades on long haul flights per $ spent on tickets
(6) Which routes do you fly most often Between EU and US and EU and Asia
(7) Preferred Airlines No particular airline (although I like United's Polaris suites on the 787). I will fly with the airline that has a great seat and gives me a decent price. So I'm not looking for the best price, I am willing to pay more to get a better seat, within reason.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both, but it's my own company so I have complete freedom of choice.

Thank you!

Mwenenzi Dec 15, 2021 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by EU-US (Post 33815355)
Hi - looking for a recommendation...

Used to fly a lot, but nothing at all during last 2 years - starting to travel again. I can see from a quick look that my info is outdated and the programs changed too.

I have 2 flights booked ATM, an AMS-LAX return in biz leaving on 31 Dec, 2021 (I know... is there a program that will give me credit for 2022 status for a Dec 31 flight?) and an Etihad biz return trip AMS-BOM in January, but they aren't in any alliance so I may only be able to get milage credit on AA as they are a partner airline for Etihad.

What airline AMS-LAX?
Not all ffp's are calendar year based. Some are based on the day/month you join,
Selecting a ffp on the hope of a "free" upgrades will lead to disappointment IMHO. Many 100's of other with top status and/or spend more with the airline may/will be ahead of you

https://www.wheretocredit.com/etihad

Etihad can earn miles on: Air New Zealand, All Nippon Airways, American Airlines, Asiana, Bangkok Airways, Czech Airlines, Etihad, Garuda Indonesia, Hainan Airlines, Korean Air, Malaysia Airlines, Oman Air, Royal Air Maroc, SAS Scandinavian Airlines, South African Airways, SriLankan Airlines, Virgin Australia

EU-US Dec 16, 2021 4:15 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 33815424)
What airline AMS-LAX?
Not all ffp's are calendar year based. Some are based on the day/month you join,
Selecting a ffp on the hope of a "free" upgrades will lead to disappointment IMHO. Many 100's of other with top status and/or spend more with the airline may/will be ahead of you

https://www.wheretocredit.com/etihad


Thank you. AMS-LAX is on United. Re. Etihad, I realize I wasn’t clear there, I did check their partner list but haven’t seen any *A airline there with a FFP I see as a good one to join, but I have flown a lifetime ~500k miles on AA so crediting that flight there would at least help me to get OW miles and get me closer to an eventual MM on AA.

I used to play the upgrade lottery with AA for years, and I got pretty good at it - on average, I got transatlantic economy to biz upgrades on 90% of the flights I requested one just by booking the right flights (less popular routes on planes that have a large biz section with a lot of seats available at the time of booking).

I think your experience is probably different from mine because you may be thinking of US domestic first class complementary upgrades, which I agree is a fat chance on busy routes filled with corporate types. Voucher and mile upgrades are not automatic, so they are different and much less competitive, and most of the time they get confirmed at the time of requesting them, i.e. there is no waiting and no queue.

EU-US Dec 23, 2021 7:24 pm

Anyone...? I'm really hoping for some words of wisdom here :) It takes forever to decipher all these FFPs with their complicated rules and rah-rah marketing language :(

SterndesSudens Mar 20, 2022 9:52 am

Hi, first time posting here, grateful for any help,

(1) What is your home airport? MUC
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Short Haul – Economy, Work Long Haul – Prem. Economy, Personal Long Haul – Business. Normally cheapest in each.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 25-50k, but varies greatly from year to year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? BA exec club – Bronze, M&M member but no status
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge Access, *A Gold would be cool but maybe not realistic.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? 4-10 Inter Europe flights / year, 0-2 Europe to US or Asia / year. Every other year Europe – NZ over Xmas

(7) Preferred Airlines Mainly fly with LH
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both

More Info: I’d be happy enough with M&M if the status points weren’t based on Calendar year, flying business to NZ in Dec and back in Jan means I lose half the status points. I’m expecting to fly Prem. Economy from Europe to Aus in the next few months. There may be additional long haul flights this year as business opens up post covid, along with some short haul. I’m looking at Asiana, I like the 2 year collection period, but am a little worried about them being acquired by Korean, consensus seems to be they will drop from *A? Aegean seems to have increased the requirements to hit Gold Status.

Thanks

NZ_Flyer Mar 26, 2022 2:14 pm

Hi All. Second post about this. I was planning on relocating to the USA from NZ last year for work. Plans were scuppered due to COVID. It’s back on now. I’ll be relocating in May for my work. Potentially for up to 5 years but the contracts are 12 months so I can go back to NZ then and they could send me back if they wanted to. But the understanding is I’ll do 2 years and see what happens. Basically I want to decide if I stick with NZ and QF status or apply for the current DL or UA challenges.

(1) What is your home airport? MSP
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Domestic US - Y, Intl - PE
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 20-25x RT domestic flights in Y, 4x return flights to UK in PE, 2x return flights to NZ in PE
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? NZ Elite (*G), QF Platinum (OWE)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Upgrades, lounge access, award miles
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Unsure domestic yet. See above for international.
(7) Preferred Airlines? Not sure if I should do a UA or DL challenge or just stick with NZ and QF and fly UA and AA?
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? All travel listed above is for work. Will definitely be doing extra personal travel over and above. For work I can book whatever I want as long as it’s Y for domestic and Premium Economy for international

d60k8p Apr 16, 2022 3:47 pm

Miles & Bonus or Miles & More
 
Having been *S with LH/SN for many years I switched to Miles & Bonus a couple of years ago.

On the back of two Premium Economy trips between BRU and ORD/SAN I’ve now re qualified for *G with Aegean.

The question is whether it makes sense to put the rest of this year into Miles & Bonus or whether it makes sense to try and maintain my silver status with LH as well.

I’m expecting two more round trips to the US this calendar year along with 4-5 round trips within Europe.

Requested standard answers below.

What is your home airport? BRU
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Cheap economy in Europe, premium economy for long hall
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?30-40j
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? LH *S, A3 *G
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge access, priority for security
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? BRU to PRG, BRU to CLE/ORD
(7) Preferred Airlines No strong preference, most experience with LH/SN/LX
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Mostly work

gojko88 Apr 16, 2022 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by SterndesSudens (Post 34091336)
Hi, first time posting here, grateful for any help,

(1) What is your home airport? MUC
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Short Haul – Economy, Work Long Haul – Prem. Economy, Personal Long Haul – Business. Normally cheapest in each.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 25-50k, but varies greatly from year to year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? BA exec club – Bronze, M&M member but no status
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge Access, *A Gold would be cool but maybe not realistic.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? 4-10 Inter Europe flights / year, 0-2 Europe to US or Asia / year. Every other year Europe – NZ over Xmas

(7) Preferred Airlines Mainly fly with LH
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both

More Info: I’d be happy enough with M&M if the status points weren’t based on Calendar year, flying business to NZ in Dec and back in Jan means I lose half the status points. I’m expecting to fly Prem. Economy from Europe to Aus in the next few months. There may be additional long haul flights this year as business opens up post covid, along with some short haul. I’m looking at Asiana, I like the 2 year collection period, but am a little worried about them being acquired by Korean, consensus seems to be they will drop from *A? Aegean seems to have increased the requirements to hit Gold Status.

Thanks

To me it seems like SAS Eurobonus is your best bet. They have a rolling requalification year (so not the calendar one) and, unlike many other FFPs, they give you the same credit as Miles & More for the lowest fares on LH (especially important when you're flying Premium Economy or Business long-haul). Gold requires 45k miles per year, which could be borderline doable for you - flying Premium Economy from Europe to Australia and back should already put you almost halfway there.


Originally Posted by d60k8p (Post 34170661)
whether it makes sense to try and maintain my silver status with LH as well.

IMHO no sense whatsoever, I can't think of a single benefit of LH*S over A3*G. Just make sure your fare classes across your *A flights earn on A3, otherwise credit them to LH.

aro Apr 18, 2022 7:48 am

Eurobonus or other Star Alliance?
 
Hi all,

(1) What is your home airport? CPH
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Short Haul – Economy, Work Long Haul – Prem. Economy, Personal Long Haul – Business. Normally cheapest in each.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 60-100k split between Sky Priority, Star Alliance & cheap no-alliance airlines. Rarely OneWorld.
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? FlyingBlue Gold, Singapore Silver
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge Access, Redemptions
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? 5-10 Inter Europe return flights / year, 2-4 Europe to US, 0-2 or Asia.

[Mistakenly posted in the Eurobonus forum initially]

I'm about to embark on a pretty serious run of flights and will be able to get *A Gold in a few of months of long haul business class flights. I've been Gold with Star Alliance through Eurobonus in the past and more recently with Singapore. I haven't been flying much for the past two years and have lost my Gold status in the meantime. I still have Silver with Singapore, but it will lapse soon and unfortunately the date of lapsing falls in the middle of my most intense travel schedule meaning I'd delay Gold status for a while. My main hub is Copenhagen (used to be JFK/EWR).

Question is: Should I stay with Singapore (I'm hesitant... not as good as they used to be. Hard to book award flights and I can still do that with CCs points), switch back to Eurobonus or go for a wholly third option (Lufthansa? Turkish?)

PROs of Eurobonus (in my mind):
Local hub fast track
Will be the airline I fly on most. Use points to upgrade on purchased flights?
Easily earned status (or so I read?)


CONs of Eurobonus
Booking award flights, at least in the past, seemed near impossible.
No transfers from CC partners.
Points lapse (again, I never really got much use out of them)

Any thoughts? Thankful for the advise. Would ideally like to find a "home" for a while.

Plantz Apr 19, 2022 3:39 pm

Go with Turkish if you can

Boogie711 Apr 21, 2022 9:57 am

Hi all - I'm a United 1K who has recognized I'm not going to make 1K again - the devaluation of partner flights has been ugly.

(1) What is your home airport? YYZ (Toronto)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Short Haul – Economy, Work Long Haul – Prem. Economy, Personal Long Haul – Economy. Normally cheapest in each.
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 60-100k split between Star Alliance
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? UA 1K
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge Access, and 'ease of travel' - ie: expedited security.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? 5-10 Inter NA return flights / year, 2-4 to Europe, 1-2 to Asia.

alimaj Jun 2, 2022 4:25 am

(1) What is your home airport? BUE
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) Newly committed to Business class for flights over 6 hours
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k) mid range? Flight to us or Caribbean once a month
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc) ANA platinum through status match
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Upgrades, Lounge, Award travel
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) Between North and South America
(7) Preferred Airlines Avianca has good prices lately they are not my favorite
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service? Pleasure / yes


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