SWA Pilots Accused of Placing Camera in Airplane Lav.
Oct 25, 2019, 9:54 pm
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SWA Pilots Accused of Placing Camera in Airplane Lav.
Couldn't find this reported anywhere in the forum. Details are very disturbing if true. Especially attempts to cover it up and that the pilots are still flying.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/southwest...004825450.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/southwest...004825450.html
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Oct 25, 2019, 11:47 pm
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Let's add to the list the managers who harassed the FA who reported it (and her husband) rather than taking action to fix the problem, hopefully by terminating the pilots and reporting the incident to law enforcement and the FAA. Just in terms of safety, this seems a lot worse than texting while driving a car; these guys should never be allowed in a cockpit again.
Oct 26, 2019, 5:53 am
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If this all turns out to be true I'd expect massive lawsuits from any others that had their privacy invaded in this disgusting way.
Oct 26, 2019, 6:41 am
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Wow - based on what has been reported, if true - well.... they only flying they will do will be with federal marshalls.
Oct 26, 2019, 8:17 am
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Same-day crewmates spoken to by the pilots, photo of the iPad she took and any documented harassment would be hard to rebut.
Why didn't SWA settle this?
Oct 26, 2019, 8:27 am
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Quote from news story : "...flight attendant has sued the airline, accusing the carrier of retaliation after she reported two pilots..."
I often wonder if there is another side to just about every story we read but hard to imagine there would be an issue here. Something just does not add up.
Oct 26, 2019, 10:03 am
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You make a very good point.
Quote from news story : "...flight attendant has sued the airline, accusing the carrier of retaliation after she reported two pilots..."
I often wonder if there is another side to just about every story we read but hard to imagine there would be an issue here. Something just does not add up.
Quote from news story : "...flight attendant has sued the airline, accusing the carrier of retaliation after she reported two pilots..."
I often wonder if there is another side to just about every story we read but hard to imagine there would be an issue here. Something just does not add up.
Oct 26, 2019, 12:35 pm
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Seems to me that the FAs have provided clear enough information. They submitted the report and asked management to investigate immediately and before allowing the pilots to continue flying and tempering the evidence. The management could call the police at the time and go to the lav and find the camera and it will be black and white.
It seems to me to be a bigger indictment on the company than the pilots. Unfortunately they will just have bigger fare sales and people will just continue flying them, except using the lav. It just shows that the company has lost what made it great before, and just become another discarding all rules, money driven corporation.
It seems to me to be a bigger indictment on the company than the pilots. Unfortunately they will just have bigger fare sales and people will just continue flying them, except using the lav. It just shows that the company has lost what made it great before, and just become another discarding all rules, money driven corporation.
Oct 26, 2019, 1:42 pm
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Seems to me that the FAs have provided clear enough information. They submitted the report and asked management to investigate immediately and before allowing the pilots to continue flying and tempering the evidence. The management could call the police at the time and go to the lav and find the camera and it will be black and white.
It seems to me to be a bigger indictment on the company than the pilots. Unfortunately they will just have bigger fare sales and people will just continue flying them, except using the lav. It just shows that the company has lost what made it great before, and just become another discarding all rules, money driven corporation.
It seems to me to be a bigger indictment on the company than the pilots. Unfortunately they will just have bigger fare sales and people will just continue flying them, except using the lav. It just shows that the company has lost what made it great before, and just become another discarding all rules, money driven corporation.
Depending on exactly HOW and WHEN the incident was reported, the airline may be in a tough position to investigate. And too late for law enforcement to get involved. The article I read did not indicate the timing of the report.
Hard to say how much blame to put on the company vs the individuals with what little we can see at this point.
Assuming this is some major change in how the company operates is a big jump. Or that lavs are no longer safe to use.
Oct 26, 2019, 1:51 pm
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It seems to me to be a bigger indictment on the company than the pilots. Unfortunately they will just have bigger fare sales and people will just continue flying them, except using the lav. It just shows that the company has lost what made it great before, and just become another discarding all rules, money driven corporation.
Oct 26, 2019, 1:55 pm
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Yes, the camera was removed afterwards, so the pilots are now arguing innocence.
TPG has a pretty detailed write up. From FAs' story, the 4 FAs filed written report together after landing in PHX (the FA did also take some picture of the live stream), and asked management to prevent the pilots from flying the next leg (so that they wouldn't have a chance to temper the evidence). But the management refused, thus the pilots were able to fly the next leg and the evidence is gone. Seems to me that part is pretty cut and dry to me, and it's enough say the company is rotten deeper than a couple of illegal pilots.
TPG has a pretty detailed write up. From FAs' story, the 4 FAs filed written report together after landing in PHX (the FA did also take some picture of the live stream), and asked management to prevent the pilots from flying the next leg (so that they wouldn't have a chance to temper the evidence). But the management refused, thus the pilots were able to fly the next leg and the evidence is gone. Seems to me that part is pretty cut and dry to me, and it's enough say the company is rotten deeper than a couple of illegal pilots.
Oct 26, 2019, 2:00 pm
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Yes, the camera was removed afterwards, so the pilots are now arguing innocence.
TPG has a pretty detailed write up. From FAs' story, the 4 FAs filed written report together after landing in PHX (the FA did also take some picture of the live stream), and asked management to prevent the pilots from flying the next leg (so that they wouldn't have a chance to temper the evidence). But the management refused, thus the pilots were able to fly the next leg and the evidence is gone. Seems to me that part is pretty cut and dry to me, and it's enough say the company is rotten deeper than a couple of illegal pilots.
TPG has a pretty detailed write up. From FAs' story, the 4 FAs filed written report together after landing in PHX (the FA did also take some picture of the live stream), and asked management to prevent the pilots from flying the next leg (so that they wouldn't have a chance to temper the evidence). But the management refused, thus the pilots were able to fly the next leg and the evidence is gone. Seems to me that part is pretty cut and dry to me, and it's enough say the company is rotten deeper than a couple of illegal pilots.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/southw...raft-lavatory/