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Old Feb 6, 2019, 11:52 pm
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Yay for SW and yay for the rest of us!!!
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Old Feb 7, 2019, 9:17 am
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When was the last flight from HNL to DAL (not DFW)?
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Old Feb 7, 2019, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by chessman
When was the last flight from HNL to DAL (not DFW)?
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Old Feb 7, 2019, 2:42 pm
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I meant, before the flight yesterday, when was the previous time that there was a flight from HNL to DAL.
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Old Feb 7, 2019, 4:30 pm
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Originally Posted by chessman
I meant, before the flight yesterday, when was the previous time that there was a flight from HNL to DAL.
Braniff 1969-1974. 2x daily. 707's and then 747's from 1971.

Dpt Love Field 12:35 PM and arrived at Honolulu International Airport at 3:40 PM or 7:30 flight time. Can't find HNL-DAL return sked.
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Old Feb 8, 2019, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by tmiw
20 passengers on a plane that can fit 175 + crew (regardless of who those passengers are) is by definition low load.
Originally Posted by lougord99
Another 155 passengers would add 25% to the weight of the plane. Do you think 25% weight reduction makes it able to get to DAL when it couldn't otherwise?

~150 more passengers , 150 more carry ons and ( given Hawaii trips are often longer stays ) ~300 more checked bags is quite the weight difference.
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Old Feb 8, 2019, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer4512
~150 more passengers , 150 more carry ons and ( given Hawaii trips are often longer stays ) ~300 more checked bags is quite the weight difference.
yes. At 200 pounds per passenger, that is an additional 25% weight to the plane.
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Old Feb 8, 2019, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by lougord99

yes. At 200 pounds per passenger, that is an additional 25% weight to the plane.


I would guess that estimate is low. Two 40 lb bags and a 20 lb carry on means the passenger would have to weigh 100 lbs fully dressed

Add on laptops, purses, etc and I would say 250 pounds per person would be more accurate but maybe people travelling from the West Coast wouldn't stay as long as people from other parts of the country and would only need 1 checked bag per person.

EDIT, Hey not a bad guess......assuming rules haven't changed this article from 2003 says they assume 190 lbs per passenger and 30 lbs per checked bag.................

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/13/u...increased.html
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Old Feb 9, 2019, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by LegalTender
Braniff 1969-1974. 2x daily. 707's and then 747's from 1971.

Dpt Love Field 12:35 PM and arrived at Honolulu International Airport at 3:40 PM or 7:30 flight time. Can't find HNL-DAL return sked.
I think they have nonstop flight back to DAL from HNL. They taking overnight flight.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 6:26 pm
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Thought you would like to see this.

https://abc13.com/travel/hawaii-roun...light/5134229/

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/articl...m-85307-tbla-5

You can find more information here. See for yourself.

They should be so successful flight. Let see what happens. Soon, they will begin selling tickets on this Thursday Feb 14, 2019.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 6:43 pm
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Or, possibly announce flight details on Thursday:

"The airline has told us it will announce route pairings, sales and Rapid Rewards redemption rates only after it receives federal approval to begin Hawaii flights. Industry rumors this week hint at a possible announcement about Hawaii flights on Valentine's Day, this Thursday, February 14."
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 9:30 pm
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"Let the speculation begin"
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Old Feb 13, 2019, 11:46 am
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SWA8725 is on its way back to OAK. Proving flight tomorrow to HNL.

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Old Feb 13, 2019, 6:58 pm
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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/...awaii-flights/

Vegas has to be at the edge of the 737Max range i assume
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Old Feb 13, 2019, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by isaac.chambers
SWA8725 is on its way back to OAK. Proving flight tomorrow to HNL.
If true, it will be quite an interesting day for a proving flight tomorrow. Forecast calls for a 200-knot + subtropical jet stream coming out of Hawaii direct towards the Bay Area. This is quite extreme even for the southern jet stream. Headwind city going all the way to the islands while there should be some rather quick flights coming back to the mainland.
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