No more SW for me...
Dec 16, 2018, 9:25 pm
#91
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: LAS
Posts: 1,525
But, if you purchase EBCI, you are checked in at t-36 and your boarding position is held for you. If you do not purchase EBCI and check in when you arrive at the airport, your boarding position would be reflective of whatever is available at that time.
Dec 17, 2018, 8:01 am
#92
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DAY
Programs: Rapid Rewards, Skymiles, Hilton HHonors, SPG/Marriott Rewards
Posts: 4,955
Why should a boarding position "reserved for you" change? Unpublished factors should no longer cause a chain reaction.
EBCI is an ante. The pot size isn't known. You're theoretically assigned a number, but still have to check-in to claim it. The terminology is as clear as dishwater. You're either "checked-in" or not.
EBCI is an ante. The pot size isn't known. You're theoretically assigned a number, but still have to check-in to claim it. The terminology is as clear as dishwater. You're either "checked-in" or not.
Dec 18, 2018, 11:59 am
#93
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,503
Dec 18, 2018, 1:26 pm
#94
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 94
it is locked in at 36 hours. It doesn’t change unless you change flight. The airline can see your position at this time, but you cannot access it. Nothing shady going on there.
Dec 18, 2018, 1:38 pm
#95
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Blue Ridge, GA
Posts: 5,513
Imagine checking in 4-5 hours apart on a pair of concurrent EBCI bookings in the same fare class. See if the numbers are even close. Nothing 'bulletproof' happens at T-36.
Dec 18, 2018, 1:54 pm
#96
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DAY
Programs: Rapid Rewards, Skymiles, Hilton HHonors, SPG/Marriott Rewards
Posts: 4,955
P.S. Basic economy isn't a discount on anything.
Dec 18, 2018, 4:22 pm
#97
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: WN A+/CP, HH Diamond, Delta Gold, UsAir Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 89
Agreed - Before I got to A List, I would occasionally buy it when I had a really tight connection, to help ensure that I could sit closer to the front of the plane and still put my carry-on directly above me.
I do not think it is a scam, but I do agree WN is making some good money doing it. It really does work for folks that would be a C and now get an A or B with no worry.
And, I agree way more people buy that they need to, but it makes them feel good.
As to people that save seats - there are already 4,289 threads about that. Result: there is no result - LOL)
Back to the scam thing - maybe the person buying only one early board and saving seats is the scamster - again - LOL.. If they paid for 3 EBCI, the result to other passengers would be the same (3 seats taken) and SW would have more money. Who is the scammer now? LOL LOL LOL Please don't beat on this seat saving dead horse anymore...LOL LOL
And, I agree way more people buy that they need to, but it makes them feel good.
As to people that save seats - there are already 4,289 threads about that. Result: there is no result - LOL)
Back to the scam thing - maybe the person buying only one early board and saving seats is the scamster - again - LOL.. If they paid for 3 EBCI, the result to other passengers would be the same (3 seats taken) and SW would have more money. Who is the scammer now? LOL LOL LOL Please don't beat on this seat saving dead horse anymore...LOL LOL
Dec 18, 2018, 5:12 pm
#98
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,503
No I am not. This was a regular economy fare. I am having a hard time finding a "free" seat selection ahead of the wing on any airline with a regular economy fare as a non elite (mainline planes). All seats are either economy plus or "preferred".
P.S. Basic economy isn't a discount on anything.
P.S. Basic economy isn't a discount on anything.
1. I know plenty of people who choose not to reserve a seat in the back of the bus at time of booking, end up sitting in a preferred or economy plus seat at check-in.
2. When traveling alone, in a preferred seat, I have been asked by a gate agent to move (often an upgrade) to accommodate a party of 2 or more who either not issues seats at booking, missed a connection, etc.
3. When traveling alone, without status, my wife asks the agent nicely, typically is comped an economy plus seat (AA, AS).
Dec 18, 2018, 5:32 pm
#99
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,359
I think a large part of this story is a case of, "well what do you expect?" (Inexperienced) travellers always want to have it both ways, they want to have the cheapest fare and expect everything to be included. Alternatively, they don't know what they're getting into when dealing with an airline. It has been known for decades that WN is a no-frills airline, they don't do things like seat assignments or offer free meals on domestic flights like the legacies do in F. My general rule when looking for fares is, what do I know about the airline I'm about to book. If I'm flying Norwegian, I know that I'm literally paying for the right to be on an airplane taking me to point B, everything else is extra! Similarly, if I'm flying UA I expect to have lounge access, priority services, etc due to my status. Sometimes I'm willing to forgo all of that if the fare is cheap enough but in my mind and my heart I've accepted that I'll lose these things.
Safe Travels,
James
Safe Travels,
James
Dec 18, 2018, 6:27 pm
#100
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ORD, MDW or MKE
Programs: American and Southwest. Hilton and Marriott hotels primarily.
Posts: 6,463
Dec 18, 2018, 6:57 pm
#102
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
I doubt much of anything locks in at T-36. Certainly not a full-stop of "bumping back the line for any number of reasons." Until BP number issues, churns happen. The time out is a leap of faith.
Imagine checking in 4-5 hours apart on a pair of concurrent EBCI bookings in the same fare class. See if the numbers are even close. Nothing 'bulletproof' happens at T-36.
Imagine checking in 4-5 hours apart on a pair of concurrent EBCI bookings in the same fare class. See if the numbers are even close. Nothing 'bulletproof' happens at T-36.
There's no evidence to support any of this.
I have, in fact, traveled with a companion on different confirmations (fares/EBCI purchased at the same time) and with check-ins done separately hours apart, and we received consecutive boarding positions.
Dec 18, 2018, 7:39 pm
#103
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,872
I doubt much of anything locks in at T-36. Certainly not a full-stop of "bumping back the line for any number of reasons." Until BP number issues, churns happen. The time out is a leap of faith.
Imagine checking in 4-5 hours apart on a pair of concurrent EBCI bookings in the same fare class. See if the numbers are even close. Nothing 'bulletproof' happens at T-36.
Imagine checking in 4-5 hours apart on a pair of concurrent EBCI bookings in the same fare class. See if the numbers are even close. Nothing 'bulletproof' happens at T-36.