Woman threatens to kill all on a WN flight after forced from lav for smoking
Dec 12, 2017, 9:48 am
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Moving this over to the Southwest forum, where it will likely join the existing thread on this topic: Woman arrested on WN flight to smoking on the plane
Thanks! /JY1024, TravelBuzz co-moderator
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Dec 12, 2017, 9:51 am
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In the video the aisle pax is trying not to get involved and let the FA do their job. Another pax jumps in at the end of the video.
So at what point may a pax jump into a situation?
In my case, non law enforcement, non-military and recovering from medical issues - probably not until there are not many other options. But the guys on 9/11 were completely able to confront the hijackers and did so, saving lives on the ground.
So we have two issues, maybe more - the physical issues of a confrontation, and the legal issues, including FA orders and FA requests.
I am not thinking of Dr Dao, and taking on a flight crew to save him.
At what point should other pax get involved?
So at what point may a pax jump into a situation?
In my case, non law enforcement, non-military and recovering from medical issues - probably not until there are not many other options. But the guys on 9/11 were completely able to confront the hijackers and did so, saving lives on the ground.
So we have two issues, maybe more - the physical issues of a confrontation, and the legal issues, including FA orders and FA requests.
I am not thinking of Dr Dao, and taking on a flight crew to save him.
At what point should other pax get involved?
Dec 12, 2017, 10:57 am
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In the video the aisle pax is trying not to get involved and let the FA do their job. Another pax jumps in at the end of the video.
So at what point may a pax jump into a situation?
In my case, non law enforcement, non-military and recovering from medical issues - probably not until there are not many other options. But the guys on 9/11 were completely able to confront the hijackers and did so, saving lives on the ground.
So we have two issues, maybe more - the physical issues of a confrontation, and the legal issues, including FA orders and FA requests.
I am not thinking of Dr Dao, and taking on a flight crew to save him.
At what point should other pax get involved?
So at what point may a pax jump into a situation?
In my case, non law enforcement, non-military and recovering from medical issues - probably not until there are not many other options. But the guys on 9/11 were completely able to confront the hijackers and did so, saving lives on the ground.
So we have two issues, maybe more - the physical issues of a confrontation, and the legal issues, including FA orders and FA requests.
I am not thinking of Dr Dao, and taking on a flight crew to save him.
At what point should other pax get involved?
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Dec 12, 2017, 3:12 pm
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Yeah, I don't think anyone who's assuming this is just some Jane off the street and asking "who still does this?" or saying she should be rotting in jail has watched the video; this woman has clearly lost it.
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Dec 12, 2017, 8:33 pm
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Actually most of the discussions elsenet beneath the video are going in exactly that direction.
Dec 13, 2017, 11:05 am
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Not entirely on topic, but a year ago I was on an Emirates flight from Dubai to Thailand, and there was a passenger who was sitting across the aisle from me who went to the rear of the plane to smoke. You could certainly smell the smoke in the cabin. He had been drinking rather heavily so that might have contributed, but a handful of FA's confronted him, and then nothing else seemed to happen to him, either during or after the flight. I was thinking at the time what a different outcome would have occurred in the US, but I guess this isn't as much of an issue in the rest of the world.
Dec 13, 2017, 11:14 am
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Not entirely on topic, but a year ago I was on an Emirates flight from Dubai to Thailand, and there was a passenger who was sitting across the aisle from me who went to the rear of the plane to smoke. You could certainly smell the smoke in the cabin. He had been drinking rather heavily so that might have contributed, but a handful of FA's confronted him, and then nothing else seemed to happen to him, either during or after the flight. I was thinking at the time what a different outcome would have occurred in the US, but I guess this isn't as much of an issue in the rest of the world.
Drunk Emirates passenger 'stripped off and lit cigarette in business class after forgetting he was on a plane' - Mirror Online
While if you google "smoking on plane" or something like that you'll obviously get a lot of hits right now for the story this thread is about, you'll soon find many other cases from vairous airlines around the world where someone was detained for smoking onboard. So it's not just USA, but it varies with each country and/or airline and/or specifics of the incident.
Dec 13, 2017, 12:21 pm
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Can you still light up on that North Korean airline? @:-)
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Dec 18, 2017, 5:19 am
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I am rather amazed how many posters thought they were helping folks out here by stating "FAA rule against smoking". No $hit sherlock. Even she knew it, which is why she was in the bathroom.
The biggest issue here is not that smoking rule but her threats to kill everybody. And not just once. She was serious. One could make a case that she should have been jumped at that point as she made it clear she was a threat to the entire plane.
The biggest issue here is not that smoking rule but her threats to kill everybody. And not just once. She was serious. One could make a case that she should have been jumped at that point as she made it clear she was a threat to the entire plane.
Dec 18, 2017, 5:40 am
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Woman or no woman. Keep saying that in front of me and it's Guiliani time.