Route change [speculation / observations] re: WN [next / recent] schedule extension
May 18, 2017, 1:00 pm
#151
Join Date: Oct 2016
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The "Getaway Finder" Map Search is still only restricted to November 3rd (at least for me). I usually like to use that to find cheaper fares outside of ALB even with the cost of a round trip drive; just quicker to use anyway.
May 18, 2017, 1:22 pm
#152
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Get cancelled and wait a week?
May 18, 2017, 3:45 pm
#153
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: St. Louis, MO
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May 18, 2017, 7:57 pm
#155
Join Date: Oct 2001
Programs: LTP, PP
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Okay, I'll be "that guy": Was interested in Sunday 11/12 MCO-ISP, but not ready to book yet. Since opening this morning, the fare shot up to ~$375 (more than double ISP-MCO the Tuesday prior), now WGA is "Sold Out" for two of the three nonstops of the day. I am currently in shock.
- It's still a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving. I know Veterans Day is the day before, but....really?
- Since it's just the WGA showing as "sold out," is it likely that more seats will be allocated to that bucket, and at the risk of pushing my luck might the pricing "settle down"?
- Really?
May 19, 2017, 6:03 am
#156
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Long Island
Programs: Southwest Airlines, Marriot
Posts: 235
ISP is the most expensive airport to fly out/into. Southwest is pretty much the only carrier and demand far outweighs the supply. ISP tix to popular routes rarely come down much. ISP>PBI has been hovering around $1000 r/t for xmas week the past couple of years.
May 19, 2017, 6:08 am
#157
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BTS fare data show that ISP average is close to LGA and much cheaper than EWR.
https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AIRFARES/
https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AIRFARES/
May 19, 2017, 6:52 am
#158
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lake Ronkonkoma, NY (ISP)
Programs: WN RR (Informed Kettle)
Posts: 151
The early flight has showed back up, but still more than double the outbound and I can't justify that to the wife.
I wonder if anything will change when other airlines' schedules open up (JFK/LGA of course). Trying Expedia/Kayak doesn't show nearly as many airline options as I'm used to.
May 19, 2017, 8:27 am
#159
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,332
Outbound is fine in this case (still not as low as I'd like in a perfect world, but still low-mid 100's). Other dates are good to return as well. That one day has sold out of WGA specifically within hours, which I guess is what really gets to me.
The early flight has showed back up, but still more than double the outbound and I can't justify that to the wife.
I wonder if anything will change when other airlines' schedules open up (JFK/LGA of course). Trying Expedia/Kayak doesn't show nearly as many airline options as I'm used to.
The early flight has showed back up, but still more than double the outbound and I can't justify that to the wife.
I wonder if anything will change when other airlines' schedules open up (JFK/LGA of course). Trying Expedia/Kayak doesn't show nearly as many airline options as I'm used to.
May 19, 2017, 12:21 pm
#160
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Long Island
Programs: Southwest Airlines, Marriot
Posts: 235
BTS fare data show that ISP average is close to LGA and much cheaper than EWR.
https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AIRFARES/
https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AIRFARES/
SW has ZERO competition at ISP.
May 19, 2017, 12:24 pm
#161
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DAY
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There is nothing stopping another airline from coming in and starting flights at ISP. If it were that lucrative, someone else would be there.
May 19, 2017, 2:33 pm
#162
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,639
That can be true and it can also be true that given the current landscape, Southwest charges more than they do at other area airports. Southwest has some monopoly power and they get to charge a premium for that. That doesn't mean that other airlines would get to charge the same fares if they came in; they could be anticipating Southwest undercutting them and making the whole endeavor pointless.
May 20, 2017, 9:28 pm
#163
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Yeah, they getting more extremely expensive. They have no new airlines in a long time. Didn't Spirit who tried FLL-ISP? Did they abandon ISP?
May 26, 2017, 4:48 pm
#164
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https://flights.flyfrontier.com/en/f...to-long-island
Jun 12, 2017, 12:18 am
#165
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Speculation on WN next schedule to be released 6/22/17 for March 7, 2018?
Any big route announcements, new city, new international destinations, and new domestic routes? It is time again for next schedule extension on June 22, 2017 for March 7, 2018.
Let the speculation begins.
Let the speculation begins.