Will this trip be possible on SkyTeam?
May 2, 2008, 9:34 am
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Will this trip be possible on SkyTeam?
I have a fairly difficult trip to make in August, and I am wondering if anyone has experience - particularly on the Buenos Aires to Singapore run:
- Starts off easy: NY/NWK to Buenos Aires for all-day meeting on 21 Aug 08 and meeting close at 14:00 on 22 Aug 08
- Need to be in Singapore for a 09:00 start on 25 Aug 08
- Meeting in Singapore ends on 27 Aug 08 at 17:00
- Need to be Mumbai for 09:00 start on 29 Aug 08 (meeting ends 18:00)
- Fly back to NY/NWK preferred ASAP
Upgrades aren't a concern as I'll fly business class the whole way.
Thank you,
Steve
- Starts off easy: NY/NWK to Buenos Aires for all-day meeting on 21 Aug 08 and meeting close at 14:00 on 22 Aug 08
- Need to be in Singapore for a 09:00 start on 25 Aug 08
- Meeting in Singapore ends on 27 Aug 08 at 17:00
- Need to be Mumbai for 09:00 start on 29 Aug 08 (meeting ends 18:00)
- Fly back to NY/NWK preferred ASAP
Upgrades aren't a concern as I'll fly business class the whole way.
Thank you,
Steve
May 2, 2008, 9:44 am
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EZE-SIN will be a bear, but I think you can do it in the time you have. The SkyTeam timetable spit this out:
It is back-to-back redeyes headed east. There is also a CO/NW option heading west via IAH/NRT but that doesn't arrive in SIN until 1am on the 25th, and that would probably leave you a bit of a mess for the 9am meeting.
SIN-BOM will not be on SkyTeam. From BOM-NYC you have DL or CO options that will leave late that night. Sadly you cannot do it as a RTW ticket in the order you have the stops.
EZE-SIN will be a bear, but I think you can do it in the time you have. The SkyTeam timetable spit this out:
Code:
From Buenos Aires AR ( EZE ) To Singapore SG ( SIN ) Depart 22 August 2008 Departure Time 1705 Arrive 24 August 2008 Arrival Time 1555 +2 Distance 13690 mi 21904 km Duration 35h50m Flight 1 of 3: Flight Air France 415 From Buenos Aires AR (EZE) Terminal Departure Time 1705 To Paris Charles De Gaulle FR (CDG) Terminal 2E Arrival Time 1100 Duration 12h55m Meal MB Aircraft Type 772 Flight 2 of 3: Flight KLM Royal Dutch Airlines 1234 From Paris Charles De Gaulle FR (CDG) Terminal 2F Departure Time 1425 To Amsterdam Schiphol NL (AMS) Terminal Arrival Time 1540 Duration 1h15m Meal Aircraft Type 737 Flight 3 of 3: Flight KLM Royal Dutch Airlines 837 From Amsterdam Schiphol NL (AMS) Terminal Departure Time 2130 To Singapore SG (SIN) Terminal 1 Arrival Time 1555 Duration 12h25m Meal Aircraft Type 777
SIN-BOM will not be on SkyTeam. From BOM-NYC you have DL or CO options that will leave late that night. Sadly you cannot do it as a RTW ticket in the order you have the stops.
May 2, 2008, 10:12 am
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sbm12,
Many thanks. That is a heck of a flight.
As I think about it, it might make sense to try to do this in a completely different alliance. I won't need the miles to maintain Platinum on Continental, and I might qualify for elite status in another alliance from this one, very long trip...
Thanks again,
Steve
Many thanks. That is a heck of a flight.
As I think about it, it might make sense to try to do this in a completely different alliance. I won't need the miles to maintain Platinum on Continental, and I might qualify for elite status in another alliance from this one, very long trip...
Thanks again,
Steve
May 2, 2008, 12:07 pm
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RTW would be unlikely. The path NYC-EZE is east and SIN-BOM is west. Unless there is a RTW ticket that considers SIN and BOM in the same region so that it is not backtracking that would not work. Also, you'd have to go BOM-NYC westward at the end, which is not possible without putting another stop in the trip.
I was pretty sure that AF had a CDG-SIN flight but that didn't come up in the SkyTeam search and I didn't dig too hard. There is a 12 hour layover in Paris if you want that:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
As for alternate routings from EZE-SIN, there aren't a ton that operate on Fridays, according to KVS, though the initial search I did on KVS didn't include the AF trip, so who knows. The shortest routing seems to be the MH flight EZE-KUL-SIN, but that is only offered once per week, according to KVS, and not on the day the OP needs it. The routing on MH via CPT is only offered 2x weekly, also on the wrong days for the OP. There is a daily flight on SA at 1800 from GRU-JNB, and SQ can connect you on from there, but I think it will not be possible to finist at 1400 in EZE and make the 1800 from GRU.
I was pretty sure that AF had a CDG-SIN flight but that didn't come up in the SkyTeam search and I didn't dig too hard. There is a 12 hour layover in Paris if you want that:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
EZE Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini BA AR [SAEZ] SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] TUE 19 Aug 2008 - 26 Aug 2008 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------- AF 415 EZE 17:05 CDG 11:00 +1 772 0 1234567 37:40 - 2E 30 Apr 11 Oct -> AF 256 CDG 23:15 +1 SIN 17:45 +2 77W 0 2E 1
May 2, 2008, 4:30 pm
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Let's give it a go.
Westbound RTW.
NYC (DL/AM) MEX
MEX (AM) NRT
NRT (NW) SIN
SIN (CZ) CAN
CAN (CZ) DEL
DEL - BOM "overland" (i.e. buy an oneway domestic ticket)
BOM (AF) CDG
CDG (AF) NYC
Just purchase a MEX-EZE roundtrip on top of it and you're set.
Anyone able to pull the exact timings to ensure connections are workable?
Westbound RTW.
NYC (DL/AM) MEX
MEX (AM) NRT
NRT (NW) SIN
SIN (CZ) CAN
CAN (CZ) DEL
DEL - BOM "overland" (i.e. buy an oneway domestic ticket)
BOM (AF) CDG
CDG (AF) NYC
Just purchase a MEX-EZE roundtrip on top of it and you're set.
Anyone able to pull the exact timings to ensure connections are workable?
May 2, 2008, 4:59 pm
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The above doesn't work with your dates, as AM only fly to NRT on Mondays and Thursdays. Therefore you have to go via LAX on the return.
So
NYC (DL/AM) MEX
MEX-EZE-MEX separate ticket
MEX (AM) LAX
LAX (KE) NRT
NRT (NW) SIN
SIN (CZ) CAN
CAN (CZ) DEL
DEL - BOM "overland" (i.e. buy an oneway domestic ticket)
BOM (AF) CDG
CDG (AF) NYC
Can anyone check whether this is possible on the dates the OP wants it?
So
NYC (DL/AM) MEX
MEX-EZE-MEX separate ticket
MEX (AM) LAX
LAX (KE) NRT
NRT (NW) SIN
SIN (CZ) CAN
CAN (CZ) DEL
DEL - BOM "overland" (i.e. buy an oneway domestic ticket)
BOM (AF) CDG
CDG (AF) NYC
Can anyone check whether this is possible on the dates the OP wants it?
May 2, 2008, 6:11 pm
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I have a fairly difficult trip to make in August, and I am wondering if anyone has experience - particularly on the Buenos Aires to Singapore run:
- Starts off easy: NY/NWK to Buenos Aires for all-day meeting on 21 Aug 08 and meeting close at 14:00 on 22 Aug 08
- Need to be in Singapore for a 09:00 start on 25 Aug 08
- Meeting in Singapore ends on 27 Aug 08 at 17:00
- Need to be Mumbai for 09:00 start on 29 Aug 08 (meeting ends 18:00)
- Fly back to NY/NWK preferred ASAP
Upgrades aren't a concern as I'll fly business class the whole way.
Thank you,
Steve
- Starts off easy: NY/NWK to Buenos Aires for all-day meeting on 21 Aug 08 and meeting close at 14:00 on 22 Aug 08
- Need to be in Singapore for a 09:00 start on 25 Aug 08
- Meeting in Singapore ends on 27 Aug 08 at 17:00
- Need to be Mumbai for 09:00 start on 29 Aug 08 (meeting ends 18:00)
- Fly back to NY/NWK preferred ASAP
Upgrades aren't a concern as I'll fly business class the whole way.
Thank you,
Steve
08/20 AA955 JFK-EZE
08/22 LA470 EZE-SCL
08/22 QF322 SCL-AKL
08/24 QF322 AKL-SYD
08/24 QF319 SYD-SIN
08/27 9W11 SIN-BOM
08/29 AA5661/AA171 BOM-BRU-JFK
May 2, 2008, 6:23 pm
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Let's give it a go.
Westbound RTW.
NYC (DL/AM) MEX
MEX (AM) NRT
NRT (NW) SIN
SIN (CZ) CAN
CAN (CZ) DEL
DEL - BOM "overland" (i.e. buy an oneway domestic ticket)
BOM (AF) CDG
CDG (AF) NYC
Just purchase a MEX-EZE roundtrip on top of it and you're set.
Anyone able to pull the exact timings to ensure connections are workable?
Westbound RTW.
NYC (DL/AM) MEX
MEX (AM) NRT
NRT (NW) SIN
SIN (CZ) CAN
CAN (CZ) DEL
DEL - BOM "overland" (i.e. buy an oneway domestic ticket)
BOM (AF) CDG
CDG (AF) NYC
Just purchase a MEX-EZE roundtrip on top of it and you're set.
Anyone able to pull the exact timings to ensure connections are workable?
NYC-ATL-EZE (DL)
EZE-IAH-NRT (CO)
NRT-SIN (NW)
SIN-BOM (9W11)
BOM-NYC (DL/CO)
May 3, 2008, 2:36 am
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May 3, 2008, 2:40 am
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