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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Well, if that is true... then all this crap about "Contract of Carriage being from point A to point B" is complete garbage.

Nice find, Dambus. Where'd ya see that?

So, apparently, the airlines aren't honoring their own contracts?
No airline in the world guarantees schedules, cabin classes, etc. When an airline downgrades a PAX, they are entitled to an invol. refund (plus the EU-mandated compensation, if applicable):

From http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/local/...ito_cgt3.htm#0

2. Involuntary Refunds

2.1 If the Carrier cancels a flight, or performs the flight with excessive delays compared to the planned schedule or if the Carrier causes a Passenger to miss a connecting flight or the flight does not stop at the Agreed Stopping Place or scheduled destination, or if the Carrier refuses boarding to a Passenger due to scheduled overbooking, Passengers who hold a single Contract of Carriage may, subject to the applicable law in force, obtain a refund of an amount:

(a) equivalent to the fare paid, if no portion of the Ticket was used.

(b) at least equivalent to the difference between the fare paid and the fare that corresponds to the carriage not performed, with reference to the route mentioned on the Ticket, if a portion of the Ticket was used.

2.2 Involuntary downgrading: if a Passenger is placed in a lower class than that for which the Ticket was purchased, a refund (that corresponds to said difference in class) will be provided in accordance with the European law in force.*
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Well, if that is true... then all this crap about "Contract of Carriage being from point A to point B" is complete garbage.

Nice find, Dambus. Where'd ya see that?

So, apparently, the airlines aren't honoring their own contracts?
Yes, it is garbage. It is like any other myth. Enough people say it, enough people will believe it.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 7:49 pm
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No fare difference. This was on two legs of a three-leg itin, with the third still in J so they told me I got what I paid for (transport) and here's 400EUR for my trouble.
They must have the ex-FD on file with 'potential troublemaker' This is horrible, as one of their 'own' PEs they should have never downgraded you ... unless the rest of the pax were C2000
In such a situation I would demand further compensation.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Well, if that is true... then all this crap about "Contract of Carriage being from point A to point B" is complete garbage.

Nice find, Dambus. Where'd ya see that?

So, apparently, the airlines aren't honoring their own contracts?
The quote is under the change of reservations section of the AF CoC. Not really worth the electronic ink it is written in....

After some recent nightmare treatment at CDG, including invol downgrades of *2* PE's in P, AF has joined my personal No Fly List.

Returned on LH in F and the contrast in service quality (both on board and on the ground) is breathtaking.

To add insult to injury AF is insisting we write to customer service to obtain compensation - in open defiance of the EU 7-day rule! Truly unbelievable.

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