Irish lad

There is a fare on Expertflyer from SIN, but I can not find one from HKG (only the normal Star Alliance fares).

Bitterroot

North American telephone sales people -- who are outsourced to India -- generally do not know about or understand these SQ RTW fares. You may have to argue with them to get them to even find the fare, much less get the rules straight. Or, work it through an SQ office or PPS desk.

In First, it's FEZSQ. No mileage limits or requirements; no minimum stay requirement; no minimum stopover requirement. NO backtracking: you cannot go through SIN to DPS, then back through SIN to SFO, for example.

Booking class is A: no good in Suites on the A380....

Dorian

Ya, the 1 time through SIN makes an all SQ RTW pretty tough.

I'm doing (double dashes are not SQ, my own arrangements):

YVR--LAX-TPE-SIN-ZRH--FRA-JFK--YYZ--YVR

Bitterroot

I do exactly what you do, Dorian: just buy separate tickets or take the train in Europe to close gaps, get to/from Indonesia or Malaysia, etc. Still lots cheaper than *A RTW in First.

The prohibition on A class in suites may turn out to be a pain if A-380s take over more 744 routes. On the other hand, the suites fly empty most of the time on some routes (SYD - SIN) so mebbe they'll relent.

Finally, perhaps Guy Betsy could show us the rules for the FEZSQ fare (hint, hint)? here's why I ask: CEZSQ isn't valid on 21/22 and 37/38. But if there's no such restriction in the rule for the FEZSQ fare, you could buy that, accept the voluntary downgrade, use the non-stops, and it's still cheaper than buying back-to-back regular C or J tickets from EWR to SIN, and again from SIN to LAX.

Jalinth

By backtracking, does this include transits through SIN as well? IE: YVR-CPT via SIN, and then CPT-FRA (again via SIN)? If so, it makes SQ RTW difficult to use since so many of their flights use SIN as the hub.

Bitterroot

Yup -- that's exactly what the restriction means: you cannot transit SIN twice on the same itinerary, even if you're just connecting.

I have been through that discussion with managers at SQ several times, and the application of the no-backtracking provision is applied very consistently, so it's not a 'fone-sales person's mis-interpretation of policy.

That's certainly one reason the basic fare is low. It may also be a reason so few SQ telephone sales reps know about the fares: they may not get that many inquiries. Even the senior ticket agent at the San Francisco ticket office had to look it up -- I told her where to find it -- last time I was in the office.

If it's a North American ticket, the only thing you can do at SIN is acquire another RT ticket from SIN to XXX and back -- either by buying it separately, or by redeeming KrisFlyer miles.

jbytheway

If you are trying to get to CPT, the SQ/VS RTW ticket works very well though it is more expensive.

Dorian

I am flying SQ F RTW....but am not 21/22 nor 37/38.

Jalinth

I was planning more of a YVR-ICN-KUL-FRA-JFK routing and hoped I could "throw-in" at least one more stop. But the "single pass through SIN" is a problem even for KUL. I think that a policy of one stop (or stopover) and one transit through SIN would make this RTW much more workable.

Dorian

I suggest using Jetstar for shorter trips from SIN to overcome the single SIN transit on SQ only RTW's.

broadwayboy

Is EWR-SIN considered via the Pacific or Atlantic for RTW purpose?

bagold

Has anyone tried issuing the ticket ex-IAH? My agent is telling me SQ doesn't allow ex-IAH only JFK going east bound. Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks.

Guy Betsy

You have to create an itinerary first and get your agent to send to SQ for verification. As its on the 77W, chances are that it will cost more $.

Bitterroot

Bagold:

It wouldn't cost more in First -- there's no surcharge on the SIN-SFO 77W in first, only in C and Y.

There's surely at least a US$600 surcharge in C -- if the fare's even valid from IAH.

If no one else finds out the story on IAH origins in the next day or so, I'll see if I can get a straight answer....

Kiwi Flyer

On the *A RTW, SIN-EWR vv is trans-pacific (rule 4E) along with YYZ-NRT/HKG/PEK/PVG/ICN, SIN-LAX/EWR, BKK-JFK.