Do you think Emirates is superior to SQ?
Apr 28, 2014, 6:25 pm
#181
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil and Porto, Portugal
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, LH FTL, FB Gold, LATAM Black Signature
Posts: 554
I just wish SQ would come up with a decent First Class seat for the 77W.
The Suites are the best bed I have ever tried in the sky.
But that F seat is horrible. Too wide, not long enough, hard as rock.
I still think their service in F is outstanding. But the hardware is definetely greener elsewhere...
The Suites are the best bed I have ever tried in the sky.
But that F seat is horrible. Too wide, not long enough, hard as rock.
I still think their service in F is outstanding. But the hardware is definetely greener elsewhere...
Apr 29, 2014, 7:35 am
#182
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Boston, MA (BOS)
Programs: AA PLT Pro 2MM, DL Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Ambassador + LT Plat, COFC Venture X, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 5,587
I just wish SQ would come up with a decent First Class seat for the 77W.
The Suites are the best bed I have ever tried in the sky.
But that F seat is horrible. Too wide, not long enough, hard as rock.
I still think their service in F is outstanding. But the hardware is definetely greener elsewhere...
The Suites are the best bed I have ever tried in the sky.
But that F seat is horrible. Too wide, not long enough, hard as rock.
I still think their service in F is outstanding. But the hardware is definetely greener elsewhere...
Apr 29, 2014, 5:29 pm
#183
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Don't know....
Programs: BA LTG, SQ TPPS, CX DMP, AA EXP, Bonvoy LTT, ALL PLT, Hilton DM
Posts: 4,010
Recently flew EK F for the first time on JFK-MXP on their 77W. Have to say I was disappointed given all the hype of EK. I only rate the hard product as I don't normally eat a lot or watch any movies. Most important for me is the ability to sleep and work.
I did not like their seat that when flat comes right up to the sliding doors. To get up from the seat, I will need to open the sliding doors to swing my legs out. The whole suite felt very tight. I don't understand why they waste so much space on the side to store the drinks that aren't even cold when they could have made the seat wider or closer to the side than to the door.
SQ Suites is still the best in the air. I haven't tried EK A380 yet, but I assume the F design is similar? SQ 77W in F, I agree is a big gap to Suites but waiting to try the 2013 slight redesign. I was told SQ is considering re-configuring the 77W F layout to be better than the 2013 design and that is why the 2013 F design has been slow to roll-out pending their decision to re-configure 77W F.
I did not like their seat that when flat comes right up to the sliding doors. To get up from the seat, I will need to open the sliding doors to swing my legs out. The whole suite felt very tight. I don't understand why they waste so much space on the side to store the drinks that aren't even cold when they could have made the seat wider or closer to the side than to the door.
SQ Suites is still the best in the air. I haven't tried EK A380 yet, but I assume the F design is similar? SQ 77W in F, I agree is a big gap to Suites but waiting to try the 2013 slight redesign. I was told SQ is considering re-configuring the 77W F layout to be better than the 2013 design and that is why the 2013 F design has been slow to roll-out pending their decision to re-configure 77W F.
May 2, 2014, 11:11 am
#184
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil and Porto, Portugal
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, LH FTL, FB Gold, LATAM Black Signature
Posts: 554
Recently flew EK F for the first time on JFK-MXP on their 77W. Have to say I was disappointed given all the hype of EK. I only rate the hard product as I don't normally eat a lot or watch any movies. Most important for me is the ability to sleep and work.
I did not like their seat that when flat comes right up to the sliding doors. To get up from the seat, I will need to open the sliding doors to swing my legs out. The whole suite felt very tight. I don't understand why they waste so much space on the side to store the drinks that aren't even cold when they could have made the seat wider or closer to the side than to the door.
SQ Suites is still the best in the air. I haven't tried EK A380 yet, but I assume the F design is similar? SQ 77W in F, I agree is a big gap to Suites but waiting to try the 2013 slight redesign. I was told SQ is considering re-configuring the 77W F layout to be better than the 2013 design and that is why the 2013 F design has been slow to roll-out pending their decision to re-configure 77W F.
I did not like their seat that when flat comes right up to the sliding doors. To get up from the seat, I will need to open the sliding doors to swing my legs out. The whole suite felt very tight. I don't understand why they waste so much space on the side to store the drinks that aren't even cold when they could have made the seat wider or closer to the side than to the door.
SQ Suites is still the best in the air. I haven't tried EK A380 yet, but I assume the F design is similar? SQ 77W in F, I agree is a big gap to Suites but waiting to try the 2013 slight redesign. I was told SQ is considering re-configuring the 77W F layout to be better than the 2013 design and that is why the 2013 F design has been slow to roll-out pending their decision to re-configure 77W F.
May 2, 2014, 1:15 pm
#185
Join Date: Sep 2010
Programs: AZ FA+, A3 G, AB G | IHG RA, HGP D, FPC P, Accor P, BW D, HH D, Eleva, GHA P, 1862 Voyager
Posts: 1,852
This is very interesting. How credible is your source?
I've not tried the 2013 F but many times on the older F. I think suites is leaps and bounds better in terms of comfort just from the fact of being able to stretch your in various directions in bed mode.
Forcing pax to sleep diagonally helps save some inches in the F cabin but seriously this is 2014 and so many other compeitiors are closing the gap on the hardware front.
Perhaps SQ should get JPA to revolutionise a new F seat!
May 8, 2014, 9:15 am
#186
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Marriott LT Platinum+Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, Delta Plat, United Silver, AX Biz Cent
Posts: 705
I will never fly Singapore airlines. I used a lot of miles to purchase a round trip Business Class ticket and the return was wait listed and they did not have a seat for me for 6 months out. I had to finally take Cathay Pacific back from MAA-SFO. They would not even give me the miles back saying I used part of my round trip ticket on the outbound. I feel they are crooks and will not let you use your miles in a reasonable manner.
May 8, 2014, 11:58 am
#187
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Australia
Programs: SQ & QF
Posts: 1,302
Etihad things SQ is better than EK!
http://www.ausbt.com.au/emirates-to-...ws-articleleft
“We first looked at what Singapore Airlines was doing with its A380” Etihad Chief Executive James Hogan told Australian Business Traveller on the sidelines of Etihad’s launch in Abu Dhabi earlier this week. “Then we took a view of what Emirates would do and how they would take it further than Singapore Airlines, and then how could we take it even further again” Hogan said. “And that’s what you see, something that is completely unique.”
May 10, 2014, 2:23 am
#188
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,174
May 10, 2014, 2:25 am
#189
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
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Jun 22, 2014, 3:23 am
#191
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Singapore
Programs: SQ PPS, Marriott Life Gold
Posts: 72
F 77W marginally better
Agreed.
The difference being ability to use separate check-in, the Private Room at Singapore T3, and have a good meal, excellent service and premium wines is worth a bit if you have the pre-flight time for a 2 hours chill out [though you can get some serious work done in 2 hours too!].
Flying F [not suites] from another non Singapore location is not going to be all that different from flying C as few locations offer meaningful ground service differences between C and F.
Am (still!) waiting to try suites, but long distance to Europe or US, rather than intra Asia / Australia which I feel would be a 60% experience at best.
One way upgrades to F is a great way if flying out from Singapore and you have miles to burn and time to hand.
The difference being ability to use separate check-in, the Private Room at Singapore T3, and have a good meal, excellent service and premium wines is worth a bit if you have the pre-flight time for a 2 hours chill out [though you can get some serious work done in 2 hours too!].
Flying F [not suites] from another non Singapore location is not going to be all that different from flying C as few locations offer meaningful ground service differences between C and F.
Am (still!) waiting to try suites, but long distance to Europe or US, rather than intra Asia / Australia which I feel would be a 60% experience at best.
One way upgrades to F is a great way if flying out from Singapore and you have miles to burn and time to hand.
Jun 22, 2014, 5:57 am
#192
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
Programs: UA1K, LH GM, AA EXP->GM
Posts: 38,265
Compare this to a location like FRA where the Biz lounges are derelict and the FCL is fantastic. The difference is infinitely greater than in SIN.
And for the flying experience it is often the same. Look at the ridiculous Biz chairs LH is offering then their great F product on the 380. Whereas on the 77W you again have to study the advantages of F over C on SQ.
Add to this the inconsistency of SQ's C product across all hardware and planning does not appear to be at the core of SQ's operations
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