Will SQ ever allow partner programs to book F/J ?
May 15, 2012, 11:14 am
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I'm sorry but it really frustrates me that SQ restricts J/F award space for partner programs while KF members get to redeem on other partner carriers without much restrictions. If this keeps up, I really wouldn't mind seeing SQ getting swapped for CX or seeing SQ get kicked out. Ugh.
Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
May 15, 2012, 11:21 am
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I'm sorry but it really frustrates me that SQ restricts J/F award space for partner programs while KF members get to redeem on other partner carriers without much restrictions. If this keeps up, I really wouldn't mind seeing SQ getting swapped for CX or seeing SQ get kicked out. Ugh. Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
May 15, 2012, 11:32 am
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It's not that unusual. LH and LX now severely restrict awards seats for *A partners. Do you want to kick them out as well? There is usually a strong correlation between airline quality and availability of award seats. Just because one can find lots of F awards seats on UA, doesn't mean that people want to fly them.
I understand there usually is a strong correlation between airline quality and availability of award seats. But do most top quality airlines release F seats?
Let's see:
CX [X]
QF [X]
OZ [X]
NH [X] *Mainly during the winter months*
May 15, 2012, 1:14 pm
#64
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I'm sorry but it really frustrates me that SQ restricts J/F award space for partner programs while KF members get to redeem on other partner carriers without much restrictions. If this keeps up, I really wouldn't mind seeing SQ getting swapped for CX or seeing SQ get kicked out. Ugh.
Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
This has nothing to do with the quality of other *A airlines w.r.t. SQ, but rather, it is because SQ charges an even more exorbitant number of miles to travel on parter flights than their already higher-than-normal redemption rates for SQ flights.
Those who wish to redeem on *A parters will usually have another *A FFP to accrue with such as BD, LH, A3, etc.
May 15, 2012, 8:38 pm
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Not saying that what SQ does is correct, but rest assured that KF members will not be in a rush to use KF miles to redeem on *A airlines.
This has nothing to do with the quality of other *A airlines w.r.t. SQ, but rather, it is because SQ charges an even more exorbitant number of miles to travel on parter flights than their already higher-than-normal redemption rates for SQ flights.
Those who wish to redeem on *A parters will usually have another *A FFP to accrue with such as BD, LH, A3, etc.
This has nothing to do with the quality of other *A airlines w.r.t. SQ, but rather, it is because SQ charges an even more exorbitant number of miles to travel on parter flights than their already higher-than-normal redemption rates for SQ flights.
Those who wish to redeem on *A parters will usually have another *A FFP to accrue with such as BD, LH, A3, etc.
Imagine needing 225K miles for a FC ticket from SIN - USA on a partner airline.
May 16, 2012, 2:34 am
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Yup, and the mileage accrual rates on KF for *A carriers (or even SQ) is below average at best; and is significantly worse if you travel in premium classes.
May 16, 2012, 8:15 am
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I doubt if many fly SQ because of their wonderful FF program.
It's been said before and I'll say it again, if you want to fly SQ First, buy a First Class ticket.
It's been said before and I'll say it again, if you want to fly SQ First, buy a First Class ticket.
May 16, 2012, 6:55 pm
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Plus its miles can be purchased and availability is decent at times ... so there is no sound (FT) reason for purchasing an F ticket to get into their f cabins.
May 17, 2012, 8:33 am
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Seeing reasonably good Business class availabiity on SQ37/38, 308/309/318/319 etc, even two seats on the same flight, and even when SQ does not show any saver availability, all through BMI in its dying weeks!!
RIP BMI's Star Alliance partnership!!
RIP BMI's Star Alliance partnership!!
Last edited by SingaporeDon; May 17, 2012 at 8:53 am
May 23, 2012, 10:13 am
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SQ flights using UA miles
I have checked on UA website to see if there are any Business award available from SFO to Hong Kong and there are none. I have checked all the way out to Nov. Didn't Check Dec since I figure that will be high travel time and nothing will be available.
May 23, 2012, 12:05 pm
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I'm sorry but it really frustrates me that SQ restricts J/F award space for partner programs while KF members get to redeem on other partner carriers without much restrictions. If this keeps up, I really wouldn't mind seeing SQ getting swapped for CX or seeing SQ get kicked out. Ugh.
Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
Other partner carriers might as well restrict their J/F award space on KF flyers as well :rollseyes:
May 23, 2012, 12:06 pm
#73
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After the rather generous availability (by SQ standards) when Saver awards were allowed on Singapore Airlines, the seats have all dried up. Your best chances probably are a few days before departure, but with SQ1/2 being one of the busiest routes in the system, availability on those flights will be a rare find
May 24, 2012, 7:25 am
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Krisflyer lets you waitlist for SQ Saver awards in C and F, but recently I've found the SQ website not allowing the waitlist to go ahead (even though flight selection page shows waitlist possible).
I call the agent who tells me the Saver waitlist is "full". So there's often a queue of SQ customers who want the Saver seats before they even get released to *Alliance partners.
I call the agent who tells me the Saver waitlist is "full". So there's often a queue of SQ customers who want the Saver seats before they even get released to *Alliance partners.
May 24, 2012, 8:11 pm
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Unfortunately it has nothing to do with how close the dates to departure are. SQ simply doesn't release any long-haul intercontinental C savers award on 77W/388 to other *A FFPs at all.
After the rather generous availability (by SQ standards) when Saver awards were allowed on Singapore Airlines, the seats have all dried up. Your best chances probably are a few days before departure, but with SQ1/2 being one of the busiest routes in the system, availability on those flights will be a rare find