Just a heads up concerning a fare class that Fiji Airways uses on their USA to Australia routes. Fiji Airways recently updated their website making it very difficult (if not impossible) to find out what fare class a ticket is in. Whilst this is not all that unusual nowadays, it is frustrating if prior to the change the airline always did so. That said, FJ now pulls most of their cheap economy class fares from the "P" bucket - meaning ZERO AS miles. This is in stark contrast to the mostly 50% and sometimes 100% earning classes on discounted economy tickets that was once the "norm".

To determine the fare class, I now go to Expedia as that site still lists the fare class.

I mention this because FJ was the only airline that offered 100% RDM on their discount economy tickets (other than AS and perhaps Condor). Plus, AS has a double miles promo that is still in effect and I would hate for someone to expect miles and then recieve double Zero miles.

I know what you mean. I've booked a few inter-island FJ flights in Economy "VALUE" and nothing they've sent has the actual code. But I just tried Expedia and didn't see it there either.

Reviving this if anybody has a way to find out the fare class - trying to figure out if my economy value would earn anything on QR.

Any tips? Expedia also doesn't seem to show anything

This is AS forum Fiji Airways and Fare Classes thread. So asking for FJ earnings to QR Qatar ffp is off topic.
A question for QR Qatar or FJ (in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...-airlines-470/ )
More airlines are making it harder to determine the fare class letter.
Until 6~12~18 months could put a (Amadeus) PNR, or in some cases e-ticket number, into other airlines "manage my booking". At times that showed information that the operating-booking airlines own MMB did not show. Unsure how that used to work with SABRE (AA -AS) PNR's.

As a broad guide for QF Qantas with FJ Discount Economy pays nothing for flights within Fiji and GNTV fare class for others. Note if fare class not listed wil be nil earning
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequen...l#fiji-airways

Could not find for QR Qatar, but did not look hard
https://www.qatarairways.com/en/Priv...partners.html#
May or may not be the same ff earning as for QF

Edit [may not be accurate ]

Note that ITA Matrix will list booking classes/fare basis codes/fare rules on flights if you can find flights/price you want to book on there. Priceline will show fare rules, but not fare basis codes/booking classes.

Looking on EF, as far as US-Fiji fares go, "Value" fares have letters "VLUS" in fare basis codes and can potentially book into any coach fare class. Comfort fares have letters "CMUS" and Plus fares have "PLUS". These can also book into any coach class. So upfaring to Comfort or Plus fares won't book you into a higher fare class and won't guarantee you will earn anything if the underlying booking class is non-earning.




Based on following QR table for FJ fares, outbound flight below (F class) would earn nothing and return flight (T class) would earn 35% miles flown on QR as the F and R classes are not listed in table.





Here is Priceline quote on above itin. It seems they are offering a 7% discount off the published fares.

Very helpful! Thanks a lot

I recently booked several short FJ flights between Fiji and its neighbors, paying a bit extra for "Value". The fare class turned out to be L, which earned 50% on AS and would apparently do the same here.

As noted upthread, Value, Comfort, and Plus fares do not book into specific booking classes. The actual booking class is identified by the first letter of the 8 character fare basis code of the fare you have booked (which is what is used to uniquely identify fare filings on a route). There's no way to know what booking class you are booked into simply by the Value, Comfort, and Plus marketing terms.

ITA Matrix (free) will show the fare basis codes and booking classes on flights if you can look up the same fare filings there. ExpertFlyer (paid) will be able to show you all the available fare filings and booking classes on a particular route.

True; there's no guarantee that VALUE will always be L. However, I'd be fairly comfortable in assuming it would be one of the codes in that same 50% grouping M,N,...
Obviously better to check if you can.

By "neighbors", do mean destinations like Australia and New Zealand? Again, you are making signficant assumptions here which can easily be disproved by the fare filings found on ExpertFlyer.com. I've copied the first couple dozen or so FJ fare filings on NAN-AKL. Presumably, you are talking about upfaring from a Lite fare to Value fare? The cheapest fares on route below are RLTFJN80 fares which are R fares which earn nothing. These are "Lite" fares as identified by the "LT" in second and third letters of fare basis codes. If you upfare this fare to a "Value" fare, it will have fare basis code RVLFJN80 which is still an R fare and earns nothing. You can tell it's a Value by the "VL" in the second and third letters of fare basis codes. Upfaring to a "Comfort" fare will get you a RCMFJN80 fare which is still an R fare (letters "CM" in fare basis code). And finally, the corresponding "Plus" fare which is RPLFJN80 and still an R fare (letters "PL" in fare basis code). These are what is known as "branded" fare products where you can have multiple types of experiences which all book into the same booking class.

The next fare filing up is a TLTFJN80 fare which again a "Lite" fare that books in T class and will earn 35% mileage flown. The TVLFNJ80 "Value" upfare for this fare is also still just a T fare. And so on. Hopefully, you are maybe getting the idea now.

By "neighbors" I meant the close-by island nations: Samoa, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu; I also had a round trip NAN-SUV within Fiji. I purchased "VALUE" fares on the FJ website up front, no "upfaring". I just went back to the AS website to check -- out of the 10 segments the breakdown was 3 L, 3 Y, 1 Q, 1 S, 1 V. I lost 1 because they failed to scan my BP due to a minor medical emergency leading to some chaos.

Since they were all short flights, I got 500 points plus status bonus for each one, so it's hard to determine %s.

. In terms of fares on short hop NAN-SUV route, there are only 3 fare classes available according to EF -- H, B, and Y. Y earns 100% miles flown, while H and B earn 75% (disregard this, was mistakenly looking at QR chart above instead of AS chart. Also, ITA Matrix shows there are also 'O', 'Q', 'S', 'V', and 'L' fares on this route which aren't showing up on EF for some reason).

Note that once again, "Light", "Value", "Comfort", and "Plus" fares still don't book into specific fare classes. You can identify them by the letters "LT", "VL", "CM", and "PL" in the second and third letters of the fare basis codes of the fare filings below from ExpertFlyer. It all comes down to fare class availability on flights, not whether you pick a "Light", "Value", "Comfort", or "Plus" fare. That actually has zero bearing on which fare class you book into on a flight.



I'll try highlighting them for you. Here are the "Light" fares, notice how they can book into H, B, and Y class.


Here are the "Value" fares. Notice how they can book into H, B, and Y class.


Here are the "Comfort" fares. Notice how they can book into H, B, and Y class.



Finally, here are the "Plus" fares which can also book into H, B, and Y class.

Since the implementation of the unified earning chart for all partners, FJ economy fares earn 50% and discount economy fares earn 25% of distance flown; minimum 500 miles is still in effect.

When choice earn commences, there will be no 500 mile minimum, regardless of choice.



James

Oops, apologies. I was mistakenly looking at QR chart in the screenshot above. Should have been more careful to refer to the AS chart before making post. At any rate, it's still appropriate to say that the "Light", "Value", "Comfort", and "Plus" fare brandings used by FJ don't actually map to specific fare classes and you don't really know what you will be getting simply based on those brandings.

Also, while EF doesn't show them for some reason, there also look to be 'O', 'Q', 'S', 'V', and 'L' class fare filings on NAN-SUV (in addition to Y/B/H) with 'O' fares being the cheapest on the route. As noted upthread, ITA Matrix will show booking class/fare basis codes on fares. It will show the cheapest "Light" fares by default, but upfaring to "Value", "Comfort", or "Plus" fares from a "Light" fare won't change your actual booking class on a flight. The first 3 flights listed below have 'O' fare class availability with the "Light" O fares pricing at FJD 98.

All well and good. For the purposes of Atmos Rewards, inter-Island FJ flights will all earn 500 miles on all eligible fare classes until choice earn is implemented, just as HI inter-Island flights do.

Once choice earn is implemented, earnings on revenue flights will be 25% or 50% of the flown distance on eligible fare classes. A minimum will not apply. NAN-SUV (76 miles) will earn 19 Status Points in discount economy or 38 Status Points in economy, including full Y.

Since the earnings are so insignificant, purchasing the best variant that works for your needs, regardless of what fare class it books into, is probably the best solution.

Of course, if the add-on flight is part of an Atmos Reward redemption, you will get 100% of the distance flown (76 miles) as Status Points for distance earn and no additional Status Points for revenue earn if the add-on is included at the same redemption fare.

James