New or changed routes and services
Oct 11, 2015 | 7:16 pm
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New or changed routes and services
I'm going to open a thread covering reported or anticipated new Oneworld routes and services. While speculation is inevitable, let's try to keep "letters to Santa" to a minimum.
I'll start off with the anticipated announcement of AA serving AKL in the immediate future, either from LAX or DFW - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...2015-a-54.html starting around post no. 797. This would fill a big hole in the SW Pacific left by Qantas' withdrawal from the route a few years ago.
I'll start off with the anticipated announcement of AA serving AKL in the immediate future, either from LAX or DFW - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...2015-a-54.html starting around post no. 797. This would fill a big hole in the SW Pacific left by Qantas' withdrawal from the route a few years ago.
Oct 11, 2015 | 11:10 pm
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I'll start off with the anticipated announcement of AA serving AKL in the immediate future, either from LAX or DFW - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...2015-a-54.html starting around post no. 797. This would fill a big hole in the SW Pacific left by Qantas' withdrawal from the route a few years ago.
One big thing for oneworld is how large the cuts to the MH network will be.
Oct 13, 2015 | 7:13 am
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Here are some
QR to ADL: According to http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/13/qr-adl-may16/
AA cancels MIA - FRA: http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/13/aa-miafra-s16cxld/
And some speculation: QF to fly LHR - PER
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...erth-to-london
QR to ADL: According to http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/13/qr-adl-may16/
QATAR Airways starting May 2016 is launching its 4th destination in Australia, where it’ll serve Doha – Adelaide market on daily basis. From 02MAY16, the oneWorld member will begin operation using Airbus A350-900XWB aircraft. Reservation for this route opened in the last hour.
QR914 DOH2055 – 1625+1ADL 359 D
QR915 ADL2130 – 0450+1DOH 359 D
QR914 DOH2055 – 1625+1ADL 359 D
QR915 ADL2130 – 0450+1DOH 359 D
AA cancels MIA - FRA: http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/13/aa-miafra-s16cxld/
American Airlines in latest schedule update has removed planned seasonal resumption on Miami – Frankfurt route in 2016. The oneWorld member previously scheduled daily 767 operation from 12MAY16 to 01SEP16 (US departure). Based on current schedule planning, AA will continue to serve Frankfurt from Charlotte, Dallas and Philadelphia.
And some speculation: QF to fly LHR - PER
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...erth-to-london
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has announced the airline plans to "open up direct service from Australia to Europe for the first time", according to an Air Transport World report.
The Australian carrier will operate the B787-9, which it expects to take delivery of in 2017, on the Perth-London Heathrow route.
The Australian carrier will operate the B787-9, which it expects to take delivery of in 2017, on the Perth-London Heathrow route.
Oct 15, 2015 | 11:51 am
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BA JNB to St Helena
Comair (BA) are starting a weekly return service (Sats only) from Jo'berg to St Helena starting in Feb 2016. At least, they plan to as long as the new airport is open. Trials began in Sept 2015 and it looks good.
To date, it is a 3-day trip by boat from Cape Town to St Helena.
Does anyone know the prospective airport code? It would make a healthy side trip on a RTW (5 hrs+ each way) assuming that it counts as part of Africa in the same way that Mauritius does.
To date, it is a 3-day trip by boat from Cape Town to St Helena.
Does anyone know the prospective airport code? It would make a healthy side trip on a RTW (5 hrs+ each way) assuming that it counts as part of Africa in the same way that Mauritius does.
Oct 15, 2015 | 12:04 pm
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Comair (BA) are starting a weekly return service (Sats only) from Jo'berg to St Helena starting in Feb 2016. At least, they plan to as long as the new airport is open. Trials began in Sept 2015 and it looks good.
To date, it is a 3-day trip by boat from Cape Town to St Helena.
Does anyone know the prospective airport code? It would make a healthy side trip on a RTW (5 hrs+ each way) assuming that it counts as part of Africa in the same way that Mauritius does.
To date, it is a 3-day trip by boat from Cape Town to St Helena.
Does anyone know the prospective airport code? It would make a healthy side trip on a RTW (5 hrs+ each way) assuming that it counts as part of Africa in the same way that Mauritius does.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25178511-post66.html
Oct 15, 2015 | 12:10 pm
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I'm moving this to the "new routes" thread. Amazing news, by the way - high on my bucket list.
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Edited to add - looks like it will go on to Ascension Island monthly.
St. Helena - HLE
Ascension - ASI
Gardyloo
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Edited to add - looks like it will go on to Ascension Island monthly.
St. Helena - HLE
Ascension - ASI
Last edited by Gardyloo; Oct 15, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Oct 15, 2015 | 4:29 pm
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Oct 19, 2015 | 3:07 pm
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LATAM announces GRU-JNB
Starting in 2016 apparently.
http://www.panrotas.com.br/noticia-t...979.html?lista
If this turns out to materialize it would plug the gap in the southern route network and allow an RTW routing entirely in the southern hemisphere.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=GRU-JNB-SYD-SCL-GRU
Whether the rules will be updated to allow this on a DONE3 remains to be seen.
http://www.panrotas.com.br/noticia-t...979.html?lista
If this turns out to materialize it would plug the gap in the southern route network and allow an RTW routing entirely in the southern hemisphere.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=GRU-JNB-SYD-SCL-GRU
Whether the rules will be updated to allow this on a DONE3 remains to be seen.
Oct 21, 2015 | 10:53 am
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BA
LGW-JFK restarting
LGW-LAS suspended
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...suspended.html
LHR-BIQ
LHR-MAH
LHR-PMO
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...outes-lhr.html
EI (intended future member)
DUB-LAX
DUB-EWR
DUB-BDL
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aer-l...-expected.html
LGW-JFK restarting
LGW-LAS suspended
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...suspended.html
LHR-BIQ
LHR-MAH
LHR-PMO
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...outes-lhr.html
EI (intended future member)
DUB-LAX
DUB-EWR
DUB-BDL
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aer-l...-expected.html
Oct 21, 2015 | 12:06 pm
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AB suspending:
BER-DME
DUS-DME
BER-KGD
S7
DME-SKG
LA/JJ
GRU-JNB (h/t to eae)
LIM-IAD
LIM-MVD
LIM-ANF
BOG-PUJ
BSB-PUJ
CNF-MIA suspended
EI
BHD-ALC
DUB-MPL
DUB-MJV
DUB-PSA
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aer-l...-services.html
BER-DME
DUS-DME
BER-KGD
Originally Posted by Oneworld Intranet
airberlin is to suspend its services to Russia with effect from 18 January as part of its network restructuring and in the face of declining demand. Currently, the airline serves Moscow Domodedovo from both Berlin and Dusseldorf and to Kaliningrad from Berlin.
DME-SKG
Originally Posted by Oneworld Intranet
S7 is to add Thessaloniki to its network next year, with non-stops from its Moscow Domodedovo hub from 1 May with three Airbus A319s a week. It will be the second destination in Greece for oneworlds Russian partner, which already serves the capital, Athens.
GRU-JNB (h/t to eae)
LIM-IAD
LIM-MVD
LIM-ANF
BOG-PUJ
BSB-PUJ
CNF-MIA suspended
Originally Posted by Oneworld Intranet
LATAM Airlines Group is to launch six new international routes including the only service by a Latin American carrier between the region and Africa and a new link between the USA and Peru.
Its new South Atlantic flights subject to regulatory approval - will be operated by TAM Airlines, between its Sao Paulo hub and Johannesburg, from next year.
Washington DC will be LAN Perus fifth destination in the USA, served non-stop from its Lima hub four times a week from the second half of next year.
LAN Peru will also launch service from its Lima hub to Montevideo five times a week from January and to Antofagasta three times weekly from December.
While TAM is to suspend flights between Belo Horizonte and Miami from March, it will double frequencies between Brasilia and Orlando to six a week, and LAN Peru will add three more frequencies between Miami and Lima, giving a total of 17 a week.
Frequencies on a number of other routes between the USA and Latin America will also be adjusted.
As previously announced, LAN Airlines will next month take over TAMs service to Milan Malpensa from Sao Paulo, originating now in Santiago.
In December, the group will open two new routes from Punta Cana, with LAN Colombia flying from Bogota and TAM from Brasilia, with four round trips a week in both markets.
Its new South Atlantic flights subject to regulatory approval - will be operated by TAM Airlines, between its Sao Paulo hub and Johannesburg, from next year.
Washington DC will be LAN Perus fifth destination in the USA, served non-stop from its Lima hub four times a week from the second half of next year.
LAN Peru will also launch service from its Lima hub to Montevideo five times a week from January and to Antofagasta three times weekly from December.
While TAM is to suspend flights between Belo Horizonte and Miami from March, it will double frequencies between Brasilia and Orlando to six a week, and LAN Peru will add three more frequencies between Miami and Lima, giving a total of 17 a week.
Frequencies on a number of other routes between the USA and Latin America will also be adjusted.
As previously announced, LAN Airlines will next month take over TAMs service to Milan Malpensa from Sao Paulo, originating now in Santiago.
In December, the group will open two new routes from Punta Cana, with LAN Colombia flying from Bogota and TAM from Brasilia, with four round trips a week in both markets.
BHD-ALC
DUB-MPL
DUB-MJV
DUB-PSA
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aer-l...-services.html
Oct 22, 2015 | 1:22 pm
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A rules question. If a new destination becomes available after the start of your xONEx, can you do a reroute? I know one cannot use EI if they were not a part of OW when ticketed, but was not sure about new destinations with existing OW members.
Oct 22, 2015 | 2:14 pm
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Yes, because the xONEx fares don't have routing rules that state a specific path from XXX-ZZZ must be followed, only the continental routing rules about entering/leaving a continent or limitation on how many cross-continent flights you may have.
The existing carrier limitation is written in there at the time of purchase (as being valid specific carriers only), but destinations are not specified.
The existing carrier limitation is written in there at the time of purchase (as being valid specific carriers only), but destinations are not specified.
Oct 26, 2015 | 12:32 pm
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S7 suspending:
DME-IEV
DME-ODS
DME-IEV
DME-ODS
Originally Posted by Oneworld Intranet
S7 has been forced to suspend its flights serving Ukraine in the face of a ban by the governments of the Ukraine and Russia on one anothers airlines flying between the two countries.
S7 linked its Moscow Domodedovo hub with the Ukraines Kiev and Odessa. Kiev remains on the oneworld map through British Airways and Royal Jordanian. No other oneworld member serves Odessa.
S7 linked its Moscow Domodedovo hub with the Ukraines Kiev and Odessa. Kiev remains on the oneworld map through British Airways and Royal Jordanian. No other oneworld member serves Odessa.
Oct 27, 2015 | 12:11 pm
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QR adding:
DOH-BHX
FT discussion: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qatar...oha-route.html
http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/26/qr-bhx-s16/
A good link to check for any oneworld route updates is http://airlineroute.net/category/oneworld/ which not only has routes operated by oneworld members, but any codeshares they add, even if the operating flights are by other airlines.
DOH-BHX
FT discussion: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qatar...oha-route.html
http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/26/qr-bhx-s16/
Originally Posted by Oneworld Intranet
Birmingham is to be the fourth destination in the UK served by Qatar Airways, when it launches flights to the city from its Doha hub from 30 March, with eight Boeing 787s a week.
The airline already serves the UKs London Heathrow, Manchester and Edinburgh.
It will join AA and IB in serving Birmingham.
The airline already serves the UKs London Heathrow, Manchester and Edinburgh.
It will join AA and IB in serving Birmingham.