The CONSOLIDATED NW Cancelled My Flight Thread
Jun 25, 2007 | 10:31 am
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Yes, we know. We face it every year. What makes this year any more worse than previous years? The summer weather is not a problem for MSP and, by and large, DTW. It affects other major airports (ATL, ORD, NYC, etc.) much worse because they're so congested; mouse droppings can cause those airports to come to a grinding halt. Not so much at MSP/DTW. But even so, as I said, it's not any different than years past.
Jun 25, 2007 | 10:37 am
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Jun 25, 2007 | 11:24 am
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Exact figures are unknown. However, according to NWA's own finacial statements their labor costs are the lowest of the major legacy carriers by a good margin AND on par with several LLC carriers. According to same figures United was on the high end of labor costs. United also happens to be out there hiring new pilots.
Jun 25, 2007 | 12:00 pm
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NWA is currently at 125 cancellations for today's flight schedule.
Jun 25, 2007 | 12:25 pm
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Yes, but they don't lay-off pilots during the winter season. They're not seasonal employees like at Target or Best Buy. Somehow they've managed during other times. And I don't think the rate of attrition is all that high, but I could certainly be wrong. Plus, with the remaining pilots on furlough, if they knew they were going to need pilots, why not bring them back (give me a logical reason other than "Dougie's so stupid, management sucks, they shouldn't get paid! etc...). And "seasonal worsening of the weather"? Please, they face that every year and in all seasons (remember the 2-3 horrible snowstorms this past winter?). Plus, that's why they have pilots on reserve, and it's never been a problem until now. And now, all of a sudden, it's not just a problem, but a HUGE one. All of this leads me to believe that something unexpected came up that crew scheduling couldn't anticipate.
The current issues are a result of a summer schedule with a large increase in international flying, poor weather and a general shortage of pilots (including lower reserve levels). It should be noted that schedules and staffing levels are completely solely the responsibility of managment.
Then I guess you have little basis to your claim that the cancellations are because pilots aren't showing up for work (as opposed to other factors).
Jun 25, 2007 | 12:40 pm
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USA TODAY is looking for some feedback on this subject...
If interested you can send info to:
Yu, Roger [[email protected]]
Dear Road Warrior:
Thank you for your continuing support of USA TODAY, and for being a loyal reader.
We are working on a story for the Tuesday, June 26 newspaper regarding reports of unusually high numbers of Northwest Airlines flights being cancelled. If you have had a such a flight cancelled since early last week, could you please send us a note informing of that.
Here's what we need to know from you:
1. Date and time of your cancelled flight, and your intenerary?
2. Were you able to re-schedule? Was it difficult to do so? To what degree was Northwest helpful in this? Did you incur any cost in rescheduling?
3. Any observations or comments you have regarding this situation and your willingness to travel on Northwest in the future.
4. You city of residence, occupation, frequent flier status, and nature of your tryp (business or personal)
5. You name and a phone number where we can reach you today (Monday, June 25), should we need to do a brief follow-up interview with you.
Again, thanks so much for your help.
Happy Travels.
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If interested you can send info to:
Yu, Roger [[email protected]]
Dear Road Warrior:
Thank you for your continuing support of USA TODAY, and for being a loyal reader.
We are working on a story for the Tuesday, June 26 newspaper regarding reports of unusually high numbers of Northwest Airlines flights being cancelled. If you have had a such a flight cancelled since early last week, could you please send us a note informing of that.
Here's what we need to know from you:
1. Date and time of your cancelled flight, and your intenerary?
2. Were you able to re-schedule? Was it difficult to do so? To what degree was Northwest helpful in this? Did you incur any cost in rescheduling?
3. Any observations or comments you have regarding this situation and your willingness to travel on Northwest in the future.
4. You city of residence, occupation, frequent flier status, and nature of your tryp (business or personal)
5. You name and a phone number where we can reach you today (Monday, June 25), should we need to do a brief follow-up interview with you.
Again, thanks so much for your help.
Happy Travels.
Roger Yu
Reporter - Business travel
USA Today
Tel: 703-854-6512
PS: If you'd like to be removed from this panel, please send an e-mail to [email protected].
Jun 25, 2007 | 12:54 pm
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International Cancellations
How are International Ops? Seems they are OK right now?
Though I did notice a delay Sun dtw-fra on a 757....
Though I did notice a delay Sun dtw-fra on a 757....
Jun 25, 2007 | 1:10 pm
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International should remain generally stable, as those staffed are effectively staffed by the most senior crews, and thus none of the furloughees were going to be immediately flying widebodies after recalls in the first place.
Jun 25, 2007 | 1:26 pm
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My impression is that this is largely hitting DC-9 flights; is that true? STL which is 100% DC-9 on mainline is showing 6-of-11 mainline flights already cancelled tomorrow.
Last edited by Phil2016; Jun 25, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Jun 25, 2007 | 1:47 pm
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I don't think it's limited by aircraft. My flight #740 on Wed. 27Jun was already cancelled as of Sunday (Sat?) and it's a A319. I got rebooked on #744. Of course everyone I work with has to swizzle around their schedules to accomodate this. I finally got the email today just now, with NWA apologizing for the inconvenience. How kind of them. The reason? "no flight crew available"
Can I get them to also apologize to MY customers?
Can I get them to also apologize to MY customers?
Jun 25, 2007 | 2:24 pm
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Severe understaffing leads to 14% cancellation rate!
From smartertravel, June 25, 2007 at 3:31 pm ET:
"Joe Brancatelli...details how the airline canceled 14 percent (193) flights yesterday, 159 flights on Saturday, and has already canceled 82 flights today."
"Brancatelli points to Northwest's severe understaffing as the cause of the debacle, and says, 'at this point, there's no reason to think that the cancellations will ease after today.'"
"Joe Brancatelli...details how the airline canceled 14 percent (193) flights yesterday, 159 flights on Saturday, and has already canceled 82 flights today."
"Brancatelli points to Northwest's severe understaffing as the cause of the debacle, and says, 'at this point, there's no reason to think that the cancellations will ease after today.'"
Jun 25, 2007 | 2:53 pm
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I have a A320 flight on Thursday. I'm just so excited.
Jun 25, 2007 | 2:54 pm
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Union says pilot shortage to blame in Northwest cancellations
Story:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...25041/0/NEWS05
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...25041/0/NEWS05
The Northwest Airlines pilots union says a shortage of pilots is to blame for a recent flurry of cancellations across the country.
Northwest Airlines canceled 332 flights Sunday and Monday, cancellations that Northwest spokesman Dean Breest blames on severe weather.
The recent severe weather events have caused Northwest Airlines to experience some crew shortages, Breest said in a statement. Northwest apologizes for any inconvenience incurred as the airline continues to recover from these recent weather events.
Pilots union spokesman Monty Montgomery says pilots have reached contractual limits as to the number of hours they can fly.
Its a staffing issue, said Montgomery, who says cancellations could be as high as 450 since Saturday. Our pilots are operating at contractual limits. The summer flying season is in full swing and we are operating at our max.
Northwest Airlines canceled 332 flights Sunday and Monday, cancellations that Northwest spokesman Dean Breest blames on severe weather.
The recent severe weather events have caused Northwest Airlines to experience some crew shortages, Breest said in a statement. Northwest apologizes for any inconvenience incurred as the airline continues to recover from these recent weather events.
Pilots union spokesman Monty Montgomery says pilots have reached contractual limits as to the number of hours they can fly.
Its a staffing issue, said Montgomery, who says cancellations could be as high as 450 since Saturday. Our pilots are operating at contractual limits. The summer flying season is in full swing and we are operating at our max.
Jun 25, 2007 | 3:05 pm
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From smartertravel, June 25, 2007 at 3:31 pm ET:
"Joe Brancatelli...details how the airline canceled 14 percent (193) flights yesterday, 159 flights on Saturday, and has already canceled 82 flights today."
"Brancatelli points to Northwest's severe understaffing as the cause of the debacle, and says, 'at this point, there's no reason to think that the cancellations will ease after today.'"
"Joe Brancatelli...details how the airline canceled 14 percent (193) flights yesterday, 159 flights on Saturday, and has already canceled 82 flights today."
"Brancatelli points to Northwest's severe understaffing as the cause of the debacle, and says, 'at this point, there's no reason to think that the cancellations will ease after today.'"
Jun 25, 2007 | 3:12 pm
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NW better not cancel too many TATL flights, otherwise compulsory compensation will run in the millions! http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/l24173.htm