For those contemplating value for J tickets in the 200k+ range. Are you comparing with the price of the same flights on AC with cash, or against all carriers offering J on the route?

To Europe, I would not look at 200k +. Looking at my spreadsheet for last year, to Europe, I see two 151k, another 138k, a 178k. To Asia, 210k and 217k.

OK Sorry. The 200k examples were TPAC. I should have said non-dynamic pricing rewards.

My question more specifically is: if I value collection at 1.5c so redeeming a 200k reward has a collection value of $3k. If redeeming a flight AC sells for $4k, then it's a good deal. But if another airline offers a similar flight for $2k Then it's much less so.

So I'm asking are people comparing to the same AC flight or to allother options when evaluating the value?

still care - yes.

However, with the nerfing of the CC SQM, i'll need to pick bonus SQC as milestone awards so that i can make sure i hit SE. Unfortunately that means far fewer PRs for me (1 or 2) when i used to get 4 or 5 a year guaranteed.

I still get at least 1.6c/pt redemption value on domestic J without PR, but the TATL flights on AC metal aren't a great deal without PRs.

My threshold remains 2 ts/pt, although I often do better than that. With PRs of course. Otherwise I would not value the points at more than one cent.

As to flying another airline if it's cheaper, my wife will no longer travel alone so usually it's a reward on AC. Also, I am at around 2.6 MM. Although I have four banked years, and at the latest I will retire in four and a half years, would be good to get to 3MM by then... And I might retire earlier.

Yes, especially with SE benefits (unlimited changes, PR). We (myself, mrs G + 2) have been doing RTW in J since 2013 on Aeroplan. We do J redemption at least once a year for either an RTW or Complex Multi-City, sometimes both. Christmas at USH (AV to EZE, then AR); exploring RUH to JED via Al Ula by car; LIM to SCL to UIO; CAI-DXB-AMM-MCT, etc for four in J, thanks to Aeroplan

I must live in another dimension, as I am unable to redeem on the routes where I earn my points. TYO/ICN -BKK/SIN. If there is availability it is often only in Y and on some long and disjointed routes. Yes, I get it Tokyo is a popular and busy route. It is also rather expensive in J. However, that's where I fly. I have made 3 redemptions in the last 3 months for family members, all in Y on the YYZ-YUL corridor. I used my priority redemptions before they expired. Without the discount, AP was asking 15,000-40,000 each direction + $100 each RT. I did 3 redemptions for a total of of approx 62,000 + $300. Not a good value, but I would have lost the PRs by next month and I had points just sitting gathering dust. I really don't care about Aeroplan miles now since they are so devalued and the additional charges are just a cash grab. I got rid of my "premium" card sometime ago and stick with the basic no fee Aeroplan card. I don't redeem enough to use up the additional miles I earn each year anyway.

Yes. I still care about Aeroplan points.

Like many that have replied in the affirmative, for redemptions for family members. Obviously, gone are the IKK days where we were getting 150K RT in J for Asia, and 90K RT in J for EU. Nowadays, the SE PR's are needed to get the most out of rewards.

Would those prices be before or after using PR?

One of the best opportunities to redeem Aeroplan points in J are new flights in the booking system, I saw 2 seats in I class on the new YUL-BER vv. flight in July on multiple days for 60.000 points p.p. With PRs attached this would have meant 60.000 for the return trip.

So what I'm hearing is with a PR, the programme is great?

No, but it's only half as bad.

SWMBO & I regularly travel internationally in J courtesy of Aeroplan points. So, yes, we do very much care about them! 🌏

I got two rewards to Asia for later this year, one to TPE, via ICN and back via NRT, in J, for 210,000 and one to KIX in J for 217,000 points.
This is usng a PR of course, and booking as early in advance as I could. In the TPE case, nearly a year in advance.


Obviously after. As to the comparison with IKK rates of yesteryear, to be fair, points have been devalued across the board and we end up getting many more than then. Especially from credit cards. Also, i find I nrmally get enough PRs for my need, as long as I don't use some unwisely.

I think what you are hearing is that even with all of the negative changes people are still finding ways to creatively eke out value from the Program, and that it's far from the worst scheme out there. Is it as good as it was a year ago or over the past 5 years, certainly the answer to that question is "NO", but the value has not been reduced to zero for most people here. If you expand beyond FT and get to the actual 'most people' who aren't as intimate with the program as we are then I expect you will find even more that see value and care about Aeroplan points.

No. It is definitely not great. However, the programme still has something to offer to someone as me. I'm traveling OPM for the most of the year. I have to book Y. So the status makes my life easier and often can save my personal time. The occasional reward ticket is the icing on the cake. But we have to be clear. Once my work travel is over, so is my relationship with AC and so are my $650/year credit cards. The last programme changes made sure of it.