https://enrich.malaysiaairlines.com/...w-updates.html

They have increased some earnings by 50% so it isn't all bad

10 points for Zone 4 in J is very nice though, always thought that leg was a bit undervalued under the previous table.

Proportionally increasing Business Suite earning as well. My take on that is they are serious in reintroducing that across their future long-haul fleet.

As someone who flies long-haul J for leisure, and Y/Y+ for business I think overall this will probably work out neutral to slightly beneficial for me, although I'm less convinced what effect it will have on the domestic market. It moves Enrich closer to what BA's FFP used to be, in favouring J travel and giving extra credit for taking two shorter flights.

A DUB-LHR--JFK-LAX/SFO-JFK-LHR--MAD/BCN itinerary, which you can usually pick up for between �1200 and �1500, used to net 2+6+6+6+6+3 = 29 points towards status (48% of Gold, 29% of Platinum). Under the new earnings it'll be 2+10+10+10+10+4 = 46 points towards status (66% of Gold, 33% of Platinum). BA, by contrast, used to be instant Sapphire (BA Silver) provided you had four flights and 42% of Emerald (BA Gold).

There's also some clarity around Premium Economy earning (a bit surprised they haven't taken the opportunity with the widening points gap to have distinct earnings for that) and oneworld F crediting as Business Suite, which must have been commonly asked questions for those using Enrich for the first time.

I also like the honesty MH has employed. When BA relaunched they set out an exceptionally unlikely set of circumstances in which an existing BA Gold member could retain their status under the spend model. It didn't encourage anyone to even attempt it, so outrageous was it, and people instantly lost trust in the airline.

MH hasn't done that - the illustration shows that a Platinum member will fall short, but not by such a margin that re-qualification wouldn't be possible. There's a clear encouragement to them to convert some of their Y travel to J to get over the line, or fly more with oneworld, or take a credit card if a Malaysian citizen/resident.

I think the PEY question was answered a while ago and Im sure Ive seen somewhere on the MH site

Assuming that the table is the same for partner airlines then LHR-DOH-KUL will get you 42 points in J.

It is, I speak from personal experience of flights crediting!

QR fares ex-EU will still remain very attractive, as they were with BA under their old earning structure. It's an interesting move with more former BA Gold members likely to be thinking about alternatives when they realise they're not going to hit the spend targets, and making the new Enrich a hybrid between the BA Exec Club as-was and old Enrich seems targeted, particularly when Malaysians can reduce the qualification by 30% simply by obtaining a credit card. It could be a very clever move to build membership.

For European residents, QR fares are extremely competitive out of Scandanavia. I think a LHR-DOH-KUL return is even better than you project at 44 points in J, but the cheaper fares from OSL and ARN, for example, mean the first and last flights still fall into Zone 5 for 10 points.

Does this mean returning to the good old days of well lubricated and (er) pointless BA flights to SOF, but crediting to MH? A couple of those and a ex EU QR flight to the far east and you get OWS? Having recently sampled a TQ flight to IST in J I�m still not sure I�m coming back.

Can someone better than me at this game run a few examples? Thanks!

LHR-SOF would just fall into Zone 3, so 12 points for a return - currently it's 10. So Zone 4 will become worse value for Platinum, but ever so slightly better for OW Sapphire. The better value is in groups 4 to 6.

A SOF return gets you 8.5% to Platinum, 17% to Gold. BA would have been 10.6% to OWE, 25% to OWS.

Do you mean that "Zone 3" will become worse value for Platinum? Because Zone 4 gets a 50 / 66 / 50% increase across the board while Platinum only gets a 40% increase.

For the platinum companion, I'm not sure how they can block a companion's guest, as they're OWE as well.

Probably enforceable in their own lounges but not in partner lounges https://enrich.malaysiaairlines.com/...w-updates.html

Yes, if the requirement for Platinum has risen by 40% but the earnings in a Zone only by 20% then proportionately the trip in worth less. For Gold the requirement has only risen by 11.6 % so the Zone is worth more.

I am pretty sure that the OneWorld system isn't going to be flexible enough to see that someone has OWE status but with limitations imposed by the awarding airline however at the end of the month MAS will be sent a bill for lounge access and should be able to tally lounge access with guest to member number and status...and potentially bill after the fact?

Yes, but I think you meant to write "Zone 3" instead of "Zone 4".