New Miles+Bonus tier rumours (2024-2025)
#46




Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 82
To me it's really surprising that it's taking Aegean 2+ years to decide what changes they want to make. Makes you wonder what is the decision making process of the company.
#47




Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,959
Allow me two comments: 1) From Aug 4, 2024 (OP) till June 7, 2025 is hardly "2+ years" but just two days more than 10 months! 2) If you read the page linked to by the OP, it is such a "bla-bla" kind of a PR piece, that one would hardly call that part of a "decision making process of the company".
#48



Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: SIN
Programs: A3 *G, QF WP, BA Silver, AF/KL FB Plat, SK EBG, Bonvoy Gold, IHG Gold
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Beyond the fact that Greek income levels wouldn't be high enough to do so, one of A3's main challenges is to keep the planes as full as possible in the winter seasons where demand is much weaker.
They don't need to rely on spend itself. The planes keep itself full in the summer months; and they are probably happier letting each summer tourist pay 400 quid for a single to Greece and not providing the relevant frequent flyer benefits than otherwise.
#49
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Cumbria
Programs: *G
Posts: 562
And after all, it remains a rumour. I've been a member of M&B for about twenty years now and there's only been one significant change but not a year goes by but there are rumours.
How about waiting for an announcement?
How about waiting for an announcement?
#50



Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: USA, JPN, GBR
Programs: A3, AA, AC, AS, DL, NH, SQ, SK, UA; BW, CP, HH, IHG, MB
Posts: 2,030
How about waiting for an announcement?

#51
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Cumbria
Programs: *G
Posts: 562
I guess for those of us who actually fly with A3, the 2023 change was a non-event because provided you had your four sectors it was a non-event :-)
#52


Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: A3*G
Posts: 144
Yes, A3 sets high standards and yes I am happy with them. It doesn't mean I'm looking forward to deteriorated services or I/we can't critizise them.
#53
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#54
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold; LH Senator
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Perhaps A3 could be the first airline (that I know of) to offer different (tier) mileage earning depending on the time of year....
Some airlines have this for redemption (charging [slightly] more during peak periods); it might be an idea to offer increased mileage earning for off-peak periods on their own (A3/OA) flights...or at least on a subset of their flights
#55
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
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I know some are completely against the change, but I consider this a huge step forward:
Upgrading to Business Class just got easier - FlyerTalk Forums
Upgrading to Business Class just got easier - FlyerTalk Forums
#56




Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,525
Now there's a thought! Seasonality of mileage earning.
Perhaps A3 could be the first airline (that I know of) to offer different (tier) mileage earning depending on the time of year....
Some airlines have this for redemption (charging [slightly] more during peak periods); it might be an idea to offer increased mileage earning for off-peak periods on their own (A3/OA) flights...or at least on a subset of their flights
Perhaps A3 could be the first airline (that I know of) to offer different (tier) mileage earning depending on the time of year....
Some airlines have this for redemption (charging [slightly] more during peak periods); it might be an idea to offer increased mileage earning for off-peak periods on their own (A3/OA) flights...or at least on a subset of their flights
#57



Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: BRU
Programs: A3 *G & FB G
Posts: 803
I know some are completely against the change, but I consider this a huge step forward:
Upgrading to Business Class just got easier - FlyerTalk Forums
Upgrading to Business Class just got easier - FlyerTalk Forums
#58




Join Date: Nov 2016
Programs: Nectar Card
Posts: 1,622
Out of my four flights with A3 so far I had a C/*G bus at BTS and once in ATH. Never on disembarking - they do police that C disembarks first (which is very appreciated when using jetbridge as pretty much no other European airline cares), but then you just wait there while they pack the bus with Y pax.
What?
When getting a remote stand on arrival at ATH, I've never not seen a dedicated J bus to take you to the terminal. Departing ATH is a different story, as I've never seen a dedicated J/*G bus; they always pack the bus before heading to the aircraft. According to Knobbgb , the arrival J bus is consistent but not 100%, and the departure J bus actually happens. I never knew! [...]
When getting a remote stand on arrival at ATH, I've never not seen a dedicated J bus to take you to the terminal. Departing ATH is a different story, as I've never seen a dedicated J/*G bus; they always pack the bus before heading to the aircraft. According to Knobbgb , the arrival J bus is consistent but not 100%, and the departure J bus actually happens. I never knew! [...]I think one reason they don't consistently do it on departures is because C passengers may well arrive to the gate at anytime. They could still just do a bus at the beginning for the C passengers accumulated as boarding begins, but I can understand why they don't.
Given the Greek market profile this would actually be disastrous.
Beyond the fact that Greek income levels wouldn't be high enough to do so, one of A3's main challenges is to keep the planes as full as possible in the winter seasons where demand is much weaker.
They don't need to rely on spend itself. The planes keep itself full in the summer months; and they are probably happier letting each summer tourist pay 400 quid for a single to Greece and not providing the relevant frequent flyer benefits than otherwise.
Beyond the fact that Greek income levels wouldn't be high enough to do so, one of A3's main challenges is to keep the planes as full as possible in the winter seasons where demand is much weaker.
They don't need to rely on spend itself. The planes keep itself full in the summer months; and they are probably happier letting each summer tourist pay 400 quid for a single to Greece and not providing the relevant frequent flyer benefits than otherwise.
#59


Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,863
When A3 changed the earnings calculator/table/chart/whatever for its own flights, it actually only decreased earnings on light and the very cheapest flex fares, while everything else saw an increase in miles earned, especially business class (which for my favourite route went from a "flat" 2000 to over 3100 miles, or over 55% more!). If it wasn't for that I (and probably many others) wouldn't have made it to gold. This also indirectly means that the "standards" for reaching and maintaining gold were effectively lowered (though the ones always flying in economy "light" can argue about the opposite).
Anyway, I am now reading quite a few speculations about this matter around here.
I do acknowledge the fact, that Aegean usually implements changes on short notice (which can justify the impatience I observe in some comments), but since we actually have zero clues with regards to specific changes I don't think there's any point in speculating any further than we already have and that we should just wait and see.
#60



Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: SIN
Programs: A3 *G, QF WP, BA Silver, AF/KL FB Plat, SK EBG, Bonvoy Gold, IHG Gold
Posts: 1,349
Now there's a thought! Seasonality of mileage earning.
Perhaps A3 could be the first airline (that I know of) to offer different (tier) mileage earning depending on the time of year....
Some airlines have this for redemption (charging [slightly] more during peak periods); it might be an idea to offer increased mileage earning for off-peak periods on their own (A3/OA) flights...or at least on a subset of their flights
Perhaps A3 could be the first airline (that I know of) to offer different (tier) mileage earning depending on the time of year....
Some airlines have this for redemption (charging [slightly] more during peak periods); it might be an idea to offer increased mileage earning for off-peak periods on their own (A3/OA) flights...or at least on a subset of their flights
Is it possible they could also segment based on country of residence (or rather address of M&B profile)? Some carriers offer a lower set of requirements for certain domiciles, Some even offer an entirely separate program to sidestep optical issues. I don't want to give them any ideas, but if A3 were to mimic these others carriers it would allow them to raise the requirements in M&B for say, non-Greek residents, while allowing Greek residents to retain their privileges. In a way, the optional segment-requirement is somewhat of a "residency-carve-out" but they could segment further.

