Will Air Canada Cancel a Reservation if I Buy Two Flights?
#211


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Interesting. I have a confirmed itinerary in comfort to a Caribbean destination in duplicate that I booked with their 30% promo over a month ago and both are still live.
I have a YYC-YYZ-XXX-YYZ-YYC and the same but with the last leg on a different ticket so I can stay 2 days in YYZ instead of 1. The first 3 segments are booked on the exact same flight numbers.
I wasn't aware this was against the tariff. I'll have to have a closer read.
I have a YYC-YYZ-XXX-YYZ-YYC and the same but with the last leg on a different ticket so I can stay 2 days in YYZ instead of 1. The first 3 segments are booked on the exact same flight numbers.
I wasn't aware this was against the tariff. I'll have to have a closer read.
#212
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It's possible that it was flagged by the dupe detector and you weren't notified. I've never been notified of any booking it has cancelled - one fairly definitive observation I've made is that it never notifies if either booking involves a flight pass credit. Not applicable in your case, but I've had other situations where I know it has been flagged but I've not been notified.
Unfortunately there's no self-serve way to tell whether something has been flagged. It does apparently flag the file or put notes on it or something, so AC agents can tell if they look at the booking that something has been flagged. It's possible that's how the Concierge knew about yours.
Unfortunately there's no self-serve way to tell whether something has been flagged. It does apparently flag the file or put notes on it or something, so AC agents can tell if they look at the booking that something has been flagged. It's possible that's how the Concierge knew about yours.
At YYZ, they might miss it. I've seen the printout at YEG, and it's... smaller than you'd assume.
I'm 100% sure that's how they noticed it.
I've also had emails from SFO 3 days in advance about this, because certain concierges are that proactive. In that case I forgot I had two, so I cancelled one myself.
Neither were cancelled by the system, I ended up cancelling both of them (without any cost or penalty as a SE) as I didn't end up going to YEG as planned prior. Not really sure how they can justify cancelling flexible bookings that conflict when they could be legitimate and by some of their most valuable clients...ie: a SEMM Management Consultant that needs to travel but isn't sure if they can make the 2 pm or the 4pm, or the SE2MM IT Consultant who isn't sure if they need to be in EWR or YYZ on a given day....I'm sure we could come up with many more examples.
Isn't that the whole point of flexible bookings? They cost a TON because they are flexible and can be refunded?
Isn't that the whole point of flexible bookings? They cost a TON because they are flexible and can be refunded?
Or if you end up needing to go somewhere else, you can change without fees.
Their intention is not so you can hold space in 8 flights when in reality it would be impossible for you to take more than 1.
I mean if you're going to bring that up, you should probably mention the actual reason you know it's a problem...
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The short answer is likely yes, although maybe not. They don't even have to be on the same flight to get flagged, they just need to conflict, in the duplicate booking detector's judgment. So you might book a totally legal YYC-YVR-YCD-YYZ-YYC trip across 2-3 itineraries with legal connections at each point, and have it be flagged by the dupe detector and possibly cancelled. Or you might have a YYC-YVR, YYC-YUL, and YYC-YOW all departing at the same time and have none of them flagged.
WS flight in question has been CXL'd 7 times already this year and arrived too late to make the connection 4x.
#214

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Does anyone know what happens if I have two tickets for the same date but from completely different cities? so for example one,
from Singapore to Toronto and then another one from Paris to Toronto.
I ask because Im looking at bookings one year from now and Im not 100% sure where Im going, but Both cities are showing great prices so I want to lock them in now and decide later
from Singapore to Toronto and then another one from Paris to Toronto.
I ask because Im looking at bookings one year from now and Im not 100% sure where Im going, but Both cities are showing great prices so I want to lock them in now and decide later
#215




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Does anyone know what happens if I have two tickets for the same date but from completely different cities? so for example one,
from Singapore to Toronto and then another one from Paris to Toronto.
I ask because Im looking at bookings one year from now and Im not 100% sure where Im going, but Both cities are showing great prices so I want to lock them in now and decide later
from Singapore to Toronto and then another one from Paris to Toronto.
I ask because Im looking at bookings one year from now and Im not 100% sure where Im going, but Both cities are showing great prices so I want to lock them in now and decide later
#217




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Bookings don't get cancelled instantly. Based on my extensive research, there is some sort of time period to remedy the duplicate bookings, which appears to be correlated to the length of time until the flights. For instance, a flight 6 months out might give you a week or two to resolve the duplicates. A flight a week out might give you a couple of days. A flight 3 days out might give you a day. (I don't know the exact thresholds, just trying to illustrate the concept).
I understand from talking to res agents/concierges that when Amadeus detects a duplicate booking, it adds a note to the PNR. Something like "Duplicate booking with [PNR ABC123]. Remedy by 3PM Montreal time October 2, 2023 or system will automatically cancel". If you want to increase your confidence level, you could phone in and ask them to check the file for any notes like that.
The note will be added to all bookings deemed to be duplicates, although it will not say which booking will be cancelled. The dupe detector also doesn't always pick these things up right away - 12 hours after booking, there might be no note, and two days later, it might be cancelled. So I don't know whether the dupe detector only runs every 24 hours or something like that.
But, as always, it's worth noting this function is inconsistent. It might flag YYC-YUL-YYC round trips on back-to-back days (perfectly feasible to fly and not in violation of any tariff rule) and then not even notice blatantly conflicting YYC-YUL, YYC-YOW, and YYC-YVR flights on a different date.
The dupe detector is indifferent to method of booking - cash, points, flight pass credit, it doesn't matter.
I understand from talking to res agents/concierges that when Amadeus detects a duplicate booking, it adds a note to the PNR. Something like "Duplicate booking with [PNR ABC123]. Remedy by 3PM Montreal time October 2, 2023 or system will automatically cancel". If you want to increase your confidence level, you could phone in and ask them to check the file for any notes like that.
The note will be added to all bookings deemed to be duplicates, although it will not say which booking will be cancelled. The dupe detector also doesn't always pick these things up right away - 12 hours after booking, there might be no note, and two days later, it might be cancelled. So I don't know whether the dupe detector only runs every 24 hours or something like that.
But, as always, it's worth noting this function is inconsistent. It might flag YYC-YUL-YYC round trips on back-to-back days (perfectly feasible to fly and not in violation of any tariff rule) and then not even notice blatantly conflicting YYC-YUL, YYC-YOW, and YYC-YVR flights on a different date.
The dupe detector is indifferent to method of booking - cash, points, flight pass credit, it doesn't matter.
I am currently in Germany and trying to book a T-72 hrs flight, I'm flexible so can go over the next few days. I have a refundable award flight already booked for Sept. 27. If I find an LH F flight for Sept 27, will I be able to confirm it, then quickly cancel the old ticket, and I should be safe? Like you said, it shouldn't immediately cancel a duplicate so I should be safe if I'm quick, right (like within minutes)?
I just don't want to lose my international flight out of here back to north america...
TIA!
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I am currently in Germany and trying to book a T-72 hrs flight, I'm flexible so can go over the next few days. I have a refundable award flight already booked for Sept. 27. If I find an LH F flight for Sept 27, will I be able to confirm it, then quickly cancel the old ticket, and I should be safe? Like you said, it shouldn't immediately cancel a duplicate so I should be safe if I'm quick, right (like within minutes)?
#219


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is chargeback my only option
I managed to make duplicate reservations and the system only cancelled one of them. Happy to take a credit - but - the agent says I have to pay a $150 change fee. I am looking for suggestions on what to do next? Chargeback?
#220
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You can't make a chargeback, AC did nothing wrong. What's the change fee for? There should be no change fee for cancelling a duplicated ticket. Maybe a cancel fee because you bought a cheap fare ticket.
#221




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I made a duplicate booking on day X and day X+1, both of which include flights on AC and a partner airline.
There was a schedule change from the partner airline, but when I went to see my bookings, neither of them could be retrieved.
On AC website, it says both bookings are "not found". On the partner airline website/app, it says both bookings "have been cancelled".
I called Aeroplan, and the agent insisted that both bookings are live - she said both she and the ticketing department can see they are there.
When I mentioned that the partner airline shows "cancelled", she said she can't speak for the partner airline and advised me to contact the partner airline.
I called the partner airline, and the person said he also sees both bookings are live, but told me to call AC (since it's an Aeroplan ticket) to cancel duplicate booking.
1) Is any action required? How can I make sure the tickets are not cancelled? I cannot see them online.
2) If I must cancel duplicate booking to resolve this issue, can I wait until closer to day X so I know which one I'd like to take?
There was a schedule change from the partner airline, but when I went to see my bookings, neither of them could be retrieved.
On AC website, it says both bookings are "not found". On the partner airline website/app, it says both bookings "have been cancelled".
I called Aeroplan, and the agent insisted that both bookings are live - she said both she and the ticketing department can see they are there.
When I mentioned that the partner airline shows "cancelled", she said she can't speak for the partner airline and advised me to contact the partner airline.
I called the partner airline, and the person said he also sees both bookings are live, but told me to call AC (since it's an Aeroplan ticket) to cancel duplicate booking.
1) Is any action required? How can I make sure the tickets are not cancelled? I cannot see them online.
2) If I must cancel duplicate booking to resolve this issue, can I wait until closer to day X so I know which one I'd like to take?
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I made a duplicate booking on day X and day X+1, both of which include flights on AC and a partner airline.
There was a schedule change from the partner airline, but when I went to see my bookings, neither of them could be retrieved.
On AC website, it says both bookings are "not found". On the partner airline website/app, it says both bookings "have been cancelled".
I called Aeroplan, and the agent insisted that both bookings are live - she said both she and the ticketing department can see they are there.
When I mentioned that the partner airline shows "cancelled", she said she can't speak for the partner airline and advised me to contact the partner airline.
I called the partner airline, and the person said he also sees both bookings are live, but told me to call AC (since it's an Aeroplan ticket) to cancel duplicate booking.
1) Is any action required? How can I make sure the tickets are not cancelled? I cannot see them online.
2) If I must cancel duplicate booking to resolve this issue, can I wait until closer to day X so I know which one I'd like to take?
There was a schedule change from the partner airline, but when I went to see my bookings, neither of them could be retrieved.
On AC website, it says both bookings are "not found". On the partner airline website/app, it says both bookings "have been cancelled".
I called Aeroplan, and the agent insisted that both bookings are live - she said both she and the ticketing department can see they are there.
When I mentioned that the partner airline shows "cancelled", she said she can't speak for the partner airline and advised me to contact the partner airline.
I called the partner airline, and the person said he also sees both bookings are live, but told me to call AC (since it's an Aeroplan ticket) to cancel duplicate booking.
1) Is any action required? How can I make sure the tickets are not cancelled? I cannot see them online.
2) If I must cancel duplicate booking to resolve this issue, can I wait until closer to day X so I know which one I'd like to take?
#223
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Double booking - different airlines (Star Alliance)
Ive already booked a flight with Air Canada. For various reasons, I want to book a fully refundable backup flight for the same route and on the same dates, but with another airline (United). Since they are both Star Alliance partners, do their systems communicate with each other, and is there a risk that they will detect the double booking?
#224
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Ive already booked a flight with Air Canada. For various reasons, I want to book a fully refundable backup flight for the same route and on the same dates, but with another airline (United). Since they are both Star Alliance partners, do their systems communicate with each other, and is there a risk that they will detect the double booking?
#225




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I’ve already booked a flight with Air Canada. For various reasons, I want to book a fully refundable backup flight for the same route and on the same dates, but with another airline (United). Since they are both Star Alliance partners, do their systems ‘communicate’ with each other, and is there a risk that they will detect the double booking?
I did exactly that a while back. It was claimed at the time by afters that the systems don’t communicate.
How else to explain that the newer (UA) booking was cancelled (without informing me) within 48 hrs? It was full J revenue. Luckily, I caught it and I was able to resurrect the UA booking/seat assignment with the help of a kind patient agent.. I was specifically asked about when I was cancelling the AC booking (Aeroplan refundable) during the process. He did not disclose how he knew I had another booking (014 stock).
Note, originating US airports were different. Final destination was YYZ for AE tx and a US destination for the UA tx. Departure was the same day.

