'Baggage Excellence' Campaign: carry on rules check/enforcement [feedback]
#751




Join Date: May 2005
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I will have an opportunity to ignore them in a few weeks. Planning to check in on-line and avoid the check-in desk as a first step.
#752

Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Ottawa, Canada + Edinburgh, Scotland
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I'm flying YUL-FRA-EDI tonight, AC on first segment and LH on second. Am *Gold through AC status. Flight is booked as AC Latitude Economy (highest Y fare brand) which seems to have booked the FRA-EDI segment in as B on LH.
Can I check whether I understand correctly that LH will restrict me to one carryon with a max weight of 8kg? If that's the rule are they likely to check the max weight at the gate, and if so would they just gate check it? Have not checked a bag in ages and hoping to avoid doing so.
Can I check whether I understand correctly that LH will restrict me to one carryon with a max weight of 8kg? If that's the rule are they likely to check the max weight at the gate, and if so would they just gate check it? Have not checked a bag in ages and hoping to avoid doing so.
#753




Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,191
1 pc hand luggage (8 kgs max officially)
1 personal item
https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/baggage-calculator#/
It would truly be bad luck if they weighed it.
1 personal item
https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/baggage-calculator#/
It would truly be bad luck if they weighed it.
#756

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I knew that calculator is inaccurate for checked bags if the first segment is on AC and the bags are checked through. I figured it would almost certainly accurate for carry ons but that it was possible they relax enforcement when the first segment is on a carrier with different rules where it's easier to imagine someone being caught by surprise.
#757




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#758



Join Date: Dec 2010
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Ex WAW, I've also experienced being told that I was only allowed one carryon as SEN in Business and had the bags weighed (again, both were well under the limit). This was at the check in.
At the gate I have only been stopped and when they see the class of service TATL, they drop it.
I think it depends on the agent.
#759
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I've seen baggage weighing occur on Basia ex JFK at check in. I also had my carryon baggage weighed ex JFK at check in, when flying in Business on LX. My bags weighed several kilos under the limit. That was in May of 2023.
Ex WAW, I've also experienced being told that I was only allowed one carryon as SEN in Business and had the bags weighed (again, both were well under the limit). This was at the check in.
At the gate I have only been stopped and when they see the class of service TATL, they drop it.
I think it depends on the agent.
Ex WAW, I've also experienced being told that I was only allowed one carryon as SEN in Business and had the bags weighed (again, both were well under the limit). This was at the check in.
At the gate I have only been stopped and when they see the class of service TATL, they drop it.
I think it depends on the agent.
#760

Join Date: Oct 2022
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Thanks all. As it happens no weighing of course, and indeed there seemed to be no enforcement of carry on size or number that I could see. Boarding took forever with all sorts of shenanigans going on to try to fit everyone's bags in the bins. I was very surprised. This is an issue for Air Canada (my main airline) and I was shocked that LH didn't handle it better (but of course this was just one flight, perhaps it does in general).
#761
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Thanks all. As it happens no weighing of course, and indeed there seemed to be no enforcement of carry on size or number that I could see. Boarding took forever with all sorts of shenanigans going on to try to fit everyone's bags in the bins. I was very surprised. This is an issue for Air Canada (my main airline) and I was shocked that LH didn't handle it better (but of course this was just one flight, perhaps it does in general).
...they will learn to not check their bags in. Who knew.
#762




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Maybe, but to a various extent. Some airlines are more strict with the rules than others. BA is legendary in ignoring their own policies, constantly leading to way too many bags on board. Then you have airlines like Ryanair which doesn't sell more carry on bag tickets than there's space in the overhead bin (this is the best approach imho). Lufthansa is somewhere in the middle.
But I agree with you. I've been saying for years that checked bags should be free and carry-on bags charged rather than the other way around. There's plenty of space in the baggage hold, but limited space in the cabin.
But I agree with you. I've been saying for years that checked bags should be free and carry-on bags charged rather than the other way around. There's plenty of space in the baggage hold, but limited space in the cabin.
#763
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Agreed and, commuting on a weekly basis, I’ve noticed that things are getting increasingly worse on that front. I flew Belgrade to Sarajevo earlier on today, flight normally operated by ATR but a last-minute swap resulted in a 319 to be deployed on the very short hop to the other side of the Drina: plane half empty and, still, overhead bins nearly at capacity (pretty-much every pax travelling with backpack and, in most cases, oversized trolley…)
#764
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Maybe, but to a various extent. Some airlines are more strict with the rules than others. BA is legendary in ignoring their own policies, constantly leading to way too many bags on board. Then you have airlines like Ryanair which doesn't sell more carry on bag tickets than there's space in the overhead bin (this is the best approach imho). Lufthansa is somewhere in the middle.
But I agree with you. I've been saying for years that checked bags should be free and carry-on bags charged rather than the other way around. There's plenty of space in the baggage hold, but limited space in the cabin.
But I agree with you. I've been saying for years that checked bags should be free and carry-on bags charged rather than the other way around. There's plenty of space in the baggage hold, but limited space in the cabin.
I would be perfectly happy as a pax with a personal item and a checked bag free, carryon for a fee solution.
However from an airline perspective carryons are part of self-loading cargo, but checked bags carry cost with them. So presuming you would be revenue neutral (same amount of people would pay for onboard bag as pay today for checked bag) your total profit would be less because you have to pay more for baggage handling.
#765




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I have some orphaned miles on United, and a trip coming up that might help me liquidate some of them on an award on LH. We have an intra-Europe flight that we need to book and if I use the UA miles, I can get about 2.5 cents per mile...not bad.
I want to book us in business for a flight from Munich to Dubrovnik. I am familiar with European business; I want to book this for the extra carryon allowance.
If I look at the flights on LH's website, for any business fare offered they allow two carryons (vs one for economy). If I start to book an award on UA.com and drill into the details, it says that only one carry on is allowed.
I think I'm pretty safe to book through UA using those miles, and that we will be able to bring two carry ons onboard.
True statement? Am I missing something obvious?
I want to book us in business for a flight from Munich to Dubrovnik. I am familiar with European business; I want to book this for the extra carryon allowance.
If I look at the flights on LH's website, for any business fare offered they allow two carryons (vs one for economy). If I start to book an award on UA.com and drill into the details, it says that only one carry on is allowed.
I think I'm pretty safe to book through UA using those miles, and that we will be able to bring two carry ons onboard.
True statement? Am I missing something obvious?

